-Variant Posted June 7, 2024 Share Posted June 7, 2024 Wurt's two affinity skills grant her the ability to transform her Merms. Visually, the Lunar Merms are absolutely awesome. Here's what they look like! And as for the Shadows... I uh, I can't post any renders, cause they didn't actually get any unique designs... Between the two factions, the Lunar Merms obviously got the most love seeing as how they have very gorgeous, intricate detailed new designs. For both variants! And the Guards even have another alt for being weak! 3 new builds!! Shadow Merms on the other hand got no new design at all, as they're just basic Merms with a filter put on top of them! I'm making this post to hopefully see about Shadow Merms getting some love. I'd love them to get their own proper Shadow-infused builds, but even if they're to keep the black silhouettes I'd want them to at least look partially converted! Terror Beak spines, cut out eyes like Shadows, something unique! I was honestly pretty disappointed to learn there wasn't a unique design for Shadow Merms, seeing a Shadow take on a Merm would've been so cool! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156613-shadow-merms-are-a-visual-letdown/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left 4 Sharkb8 Posted June 7, 2024 Share Posted June 7, 2024 I'd like the shadow merms to take some design cues from the Ink Blights and shadelings. I'm a big fan of how those critters handle the shadow vibe. Regardless of what they do, anything is better than the current shadow merms... Even just a dark recolor of the normal merm textures would have been more satisfying to me. They are LAME. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156613-shadow-merms-are-a-visual-letdown/#findComment-1720700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpuddyBuddy Posted June 7, 2024 Share Posted June 7, 2024 I wish they were designed more like the Nightmare Werepig, or even the Beardlords. It'd be more in-line with other per-established shadow-tainted creatures, make them easier to see in low light, and would be much nicer to look at. As they are now they look more like Maxwell's summons, which is a bit of a problem imo - not because it'd be confusing, but because it messes with pre-established design language; they're supposed to be altered creatures, not conjured summons. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156613-shadow-merms-are-a-visual-letdown/#findComment-1720705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakepeng99 Posted June 7, 2024 Share Posted June 7, 2024 13 minutes ago, -Variant said: And as for the Shadows... I uh, I can't post any renders, cause they didn't actually get any unique designs... They are meant to be identical clones, but maybe they should have a more exagerrated and droppy body. For example, their attack animation can be swingy. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156613-shadow-merms-are-a-visual-letdown/#findComment-1720707 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamehun20 Posted June 7, 2024 Share Posted June 7, 2024 22 minutes ago, TrashLord said: altered creatures, not conjured summons. Well i think the shadow merms show up after a merm dies so i think they are conjured Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156613-shadow-merms-are-a-visual-letdown/#findComment-1720742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpuddyBuddy Posted June 7, 2024 Share Posted June 7, 2024 39 minutes ago, gamehun20 said: Well i think the shadow merms show up after a merm dies so i think they are conjured Ah. i did Not know this ^^' (<-- guy who hasn't actually gotten to try the beta yet) Though in that case, it'd be cool if they looked a bit more like the Ink Mlights, with the stark black and red designs. If the Shadow Merms are a product of an allegiance with Charlie, they should look like her shadows instead of Maxwell's. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156613-shadow-merms-are-a-visual-letdown/#findComment-1720795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creatorofswamps Posted June 7, 2024 Share Posted June 7, 2024 1 hour ago, -Variant said: Wurt's two affinity skills grant her the ability to transform her Merms. Visually, the Lunar Merms are absolutely awesome. Here's what they look like! And as for the Shadows... I uh, I can't post any renders, cause they didn't actually get any unique designs... Between the two factions, the Lunar Merms obviously got the most love seeing as how they have very gorgeous, intricate detailed new designs. For both variants! And the Guards even have another alt for being weak! 3 new builds!! Shadow Merms on the other hand got no new design at all, as they're just basic Merms with a filter put on top of them! I'm making this post to hopefully see about Shadow Merms getting some love. I'd love them to get their own proper Shadow-infused builds, but even if they're to keep the black silhouettes I'd want them to at least look partially converted! Terror Beak spines, cut out eyes like Shadows, something unique! I was honestly pretty disappointed to learn there wasn't a unique design for Shadow Merms, seeing a Shadow take on a Merm would've been so cool! I've been thinking about this too, so I've developed a concept based on the drawing that shows them in the skill tree, I also suggest changing their appearance when the shadow rift opens (they'll still dump the usual horror fuel to maintain balance). Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156613-shadow-merms-are-a-visual-letdown/#findComment-1720804 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabin Posted June 7, 2024 Share Posted June 7, 2024 6 minutes ago, Creatorofswamps said: I've been thinking about this too, so I've developed a concept based on the drawing that shows them in the skill tree, I also suggest changing their appearance when the shadow rift opens (they'll still dump the usual horror fuel to maintain balance). dude, that looks great! though i feel like shadow merm guards would be "sharper" (kinda like the terrorbeaks, where they are more spiky compared to crawling horrors, which are more "fuzzy") still, awesome stuff, man Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156613-shadow-merms-are-a-visual-letdown/#findComment-1720813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Webber Posted June 7, 2024 Share Posted June 7, 2024 I made a few edits to the new skill trees. Hope you like my take on what shadow merms should look like. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156613-shadow-merms-are-a-visual-letdown/#findComment-1720828 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted June 7, 2024 Share Posted June 7, 2024 Shadow Merms should be able to change shapes and sizes.. they should continue to look like Shadows and not get some super crazy visual overhaul, it’s what they do that should change.. at least in my opinion, let them be teleport (like Maxwells Warriors now do) let them transform into shadowy terror beaks, or Terror Claw or even that one flying shadow bat thing.. I think that would make the Shadow Merms far far more appealing, because currently… I’m gonna get those awesome looking mutant moon Merms over the shadow ones. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156613-shadow-merms-are-a-visual-letdown/#findComment-1720843 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creatorofswamps Posted June 7, 2024 Share Posted June 7, 2024 4 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said: at least in my opinion, let them be teleport (like Maxwells Warriors now do) They're already doing it.+ merms are not ancient beetles. so I don't think they no should look like Terrorbeak. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156613-shadow-merms-are-a-visual-letdown/#findComment-1720852 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty_Mentos Posted June 7, 2024 Share Posted June 7, 2024 Give them terrorbeak levels of teeth. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156613-shadow-merms-are-a-visual-letdown/#findComment-1720891 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left 4 Sharkb8 Posted June 7, 2024 Share Posted June 7, 2024 4 hours ago, Creatorofswamps said: I've been thinking about this too, so I've developed a concept based on the drawing that shows them in the skill tree, I also suggest changing their appearance when the shadow rift opens (they'll still dump the usual horror fuel to maintain balance). Simple, yet rather effective! Great job Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156613-shadow-merms-are-a-visual-letdown/#findComment-1720995 Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Variant Posted June 7, 2024 Author Share Posted June 7, 2024 5 hours ago, Creatorofswamps said: I also suggest changing their appearance when the shadow rift opens (they'll still dump the usual horror fuel to maintain balance). Ahaha, cute! See, this is simple and it works a lot better than what we have! The red ones can be used anywhere, you can feed the shadow merms Dreadstone currently, it doesn't change how they look at all, just gives them red lighting FX every now and then. This could be a unique design of it, too! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156613-shadow-merms-are-a-visual-letdown/#findComment-1721014 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhackE Posted June 8, 2024 Share Posted June 8, 2024 6 hours ago, Creatorofswamps said: I've been thinking about this too, so I've developed a concept based on the drawing that shows them in the skill tree, I also suggest changing their appearance when the shadow rift opens (they'll still dump the usual horror fuel to maintain balance). Total florp sweep Gj! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156613-shadow-merms-are-a-visual-letdown/#findComment-1721062 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Szczuku Posted June 8, 2024 Share Posted June 8, 2024 I'm say that both sides are equally a let down. Nothing screams lunar in the lunar one, it just looks like a merm from a more hostile bog. But that's just the fault of the devs not knowing what they want to do with the lunar mutations Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156613-shadow-merms-are-a-visual-letdown/#findComment-1721204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshyds Posted June 8, 2024 Share Posted June 8, 2024 1 minute ago, Szczuku said: Nothing screams lunar in the lunar one, it just looks like a merm from a more hostile bog. But that's just the fault of the devs not knowing what they want to do with the lunar mutations the only issue is probably the fact they're purple, other than that i think the design is perfect. in terms of shadow merms, shadow creatures generally arent flexible with their designs unless you completely mess up the sillouhette of a merm. i think it gets the job done Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156613-shadow-merms-are-a-visual-letdown/#findComment-1721207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stresslvls99 Posted June 8, 2024 Share Posted June 8, 2024 I made a sketch of a redesign. Took inspiration from Wurt's triumphant skin and wanted to make them look nightmareish to mirror how the lunar variant is all mutated. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156613-shadow-merms-are-a-visual-letdown/#findComment-1721233 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jobenjo1 Posted June 8, 2024 Share Posted June 8, 2024 11 hours ago, Stresslvls99 said: I made a sketch of a redesign. Took inspiration from Wurt's triumphant skin and wanted to make them look nightmareish to mirror how the lunar variant is all mutated. This is incredible! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156613-shadow-merms-are-a-visual-letdown/#findComment-1721526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
arubaro Posted June 8, 2024 Share Posted June 8, 2024 I though the same, they should have the same conversion as the ancient got when become terror beaks instead of just a texture change Maybe they look like that because is WIP Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156613-shadow-merms-are-a-visual-letdown/#findComment-1721545 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creatorofswamps Posted June 9, 2024 Share Posted June 9, 2024 On 6/7/2024 at 7:39 PM, -Variant said: Between the two factions, the Lunar Merms obviously got the most love seeing as how they have very gorgeous, intricate detailed new designs. For both variants! And the Guards even have another alt for being weak! 3 new builds It's funny that lunar merms are literally living tentacles with spikes, and few people have talked about it Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156613-shadow-merms-are-a-visual-letdown/#findComment-1722272 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creatorofswamps Posted June 14, 2024 Share Posted June 14, 2024 Do you think there will be any changes in the appearance of shadow mermaids? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156613-shadow-merms-are-a-visual-letdown/#findComment-1725240 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wormboi Posted June 14, 2024 Share Posted June 14, 2024 5 minutes ago, Creatorofswamps said: Do you think there will be any changes in the appearance of shadow mermaids? probably not tbh ): Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156613-shadow-merms-are-a-visual-letdown/#findComment-1725248 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keknutui Posted June 14, 2024 Share Posted June 14, 2024 19 minutes ago, Wormboi said: вероятно, нет tbh ): They have already happened, but due to the absence of the Merm king, I only see them in the scrapbook Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156613-shadow-merms-are-a-visual-letdown/#findComment-1725255 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wormboi Posted June 14, 2024 Share Posted June 14, 2024 2 minutes ago, Keknutui said: They have already happened, but due to the absence of the Merm king, I only see them in the scrapbook Never mind then! I hope this is real screen shot though Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156613-shadow-merms-are-a-visual-letdown/#findComment-1725256 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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