This is a Klei-hosted dedicated server.Hang out and have a great time! Server resets when game updates.

[n11360]

I do Hang, but im not having FUN because the Servers are NOT only resets when the game updates but also at any other given moment at least once a day without any reason given, just "Server restarts in 2:00 minutes".

Out of like 20 ppl i knew playing regulary you managed to piss off 18 enough to not play anymore and from all the "NOOOO" "WHY?!?" "mofo klei" spamm what happens when we read "you have 2:00 minutes to grief your own base" i conclude others not happy either!

May i suggest something? Klei had endless servers running at some point, that was kinda pointless BUT it gave me an idea ....if we only can count on like 40 days gametime how about some Rift servers? where Rifts are enabled on default,Shadow pieces are assembled at place and all Celestial Tribute,Sanctum Ward and Icon are Spawning on Lunar with the other Altar pieces.Oh and everyone Starts with a Beef pls, cause spending 20 days out of 40 taming is pain in the long run playing on klei servers ...

But who am i kidding? this post prolly is just me venting off cause Klei A:never gonna read this B:is NOT aware of the problem and C:Wouldnt give a **** if they where.

Thats me signing out to play more on klei official, maybe i go wicker read some fishbooks to add insult to misery.

Have a nice Day everyone and DONT play on klei official they awefull at the minute :wave:

[Gashzer]

Always confused me why people expect klei servers to last more than 50 days. They have always been unreliable, you go into them with the mindset that i dont care if my base gets griefed or if the server crashes. Klei servers are for messing around and meeting new people to make friends with. Then take them new friends and go make a more serious long-lasting private world.

Taming beefalo on pubs is the worst idea ever especially on klei servers. It takes nearly 3 hours to tame one, thats a long time to spend in any pub server and its such an involved process. Just play Walter for that cheap instant beefalo on pubs.

[Cheggf]

Does the N in your name stand for nimzowitsch?  Anyways I've never seen them randomly restart, so they clearly do it infrequently enough where it isn't really much of a problem. Every time I've played on a Klei server it's been a much better experience than they used to be, where groups of people are holding servers hostages, using exploits, AI, and mass vote abuse to keep their several thousand day world on a Klei server going. If you want really long worlds don't go on Klei servers, go on other dedicated servers. Klei servers were never any good for long worlds.

[Mysterious box]

Klei servers are for new players not for people to do their thousand day mega bases there's plenty of other servers for that some even moderated to ensure it stays that way.

[GuardDuty]

They care about public servers, and this is why things remain as they are. They want new players, who make up the majority of the player base on Klei servers, to have a positive experience. To achieve this, they have implemented effective safeguards against griefers and server hoarders, including portal protection, starter resources, and automatic server regeneration after updates. Also, despite these server regenerations, there are still instances of players abusing game mechanics to AFK on Klei servers, often using characters like Webber or WX to keep servers running indefinitely. Although such occurrences are rare and primarily the behavior of a few long-term server hoarders, it remains justifiable for Klei to reset their servers periodically instead of spend additional resources to address this behavior or making changes to game mechanics just in response to it.

At this point, you and some other players should accept and respect Klei's decision. They don't want terrible players to monopolize servers through AFK-ing, hoarding, or blocking other players, actions that are often undertaken solely for the purpose of bragging on forums or YouTube.

[DegenerateFurry]

I have seen them restart on non-update days too, which is quite obnoxious. However, there is a much larger problem I have not seen addressed by anyone on the forum right now: US West Klei servers have been down for several days. This means that the US East servers are frequently overcrowded. I never see a single US West server in the list anymore, and this is a problem. I hope someone at Klei sees this and can fix it.

[Cheggf]

1 minute ago, DegenerateFurry said:

I have seen them restart on non-update days too, which is quote obnoxious. However, there is a much larger problem I have not seen addressed by anyone on the forum right now: US West Klei servers have been down for several days. This means that the US East servers are frequently overcrowded. I never see a single US West server in the list anymore, and this is a problem. I hope someone at Klei sees this and can fix it.

This is a good thing. There being like 15 US servers available at all times spreads people out too much, causing all the servers to be really empty.

[DegenerateFurry]

2 minutes ago, Cheggf said:

This is a good thing. There being like 15 US servers available at all times spreads people out too much, causing all the servers to be really empty.

Better to have two empty than to have them all be full and unjoinable.

[Cheggf]

1 minute ago, DegenerateFurry said:

Better to have two empty than to have them all be full and unjoinable.

It's not two, every time I try to play it's all of them. It's like 7 4 3 3 3 3 2 1 0 0 0 0 0. Then the 7 becomes 3 by early winter and 0 by mid winter because as soon as someone dies or it becomes winter they can just hop to a different empty server and get to start from day 1. Nobody is commited to any servers because there's so many, they can just eternally be playing from day 1. 

[Jakepeng99]

7 hours ago, Gashzer said:

Always confused me why people expect klei servers to last more than 50 days. They have always been unreliable, you go into them with the mindset that i dont care if my base gets griefed or if the server crashes. Klei servers are for messing around and meeting new people to make friends with. Then take them new friends and go make a more serious long-lasting private world.

Taming beefalo on pubs is the worst idea ever especially on klei servers. It takes nearly 3 hours to tame one, thats a long time to spend in any pub server and its such an involved process. Just play Walter for that cheap instant beefalo on pubs.

I remember someone got one to a 1000 days before.

[Gashzer]

52 minutes ago, Jakepeng99 said:

I remember someone got one to a 1000 days before.

Yeah wayyy back the old catcoon klei server got to around day 8000?? Cant remember. But i joined that server towards the end and it was a wasteland... so many dead bodies littered around the portal. 

The group keeping that server goin used afk scripts to maintain server voting control. Had that annoying mod that auto displayed anyone that would equip a torch. Let new spawns die. It was a horrid corrupted server by the end up.

Klei servers should never stay up that long. It promotes a different an much worse sort of griefing in my opinion than simple base burners. 

Edit: its ok if the klei server just naturally survives that long without people forcing it too. But once people become overprotective of a server they dont own an start vote kicking people for silly reasons, the server needs to restart at that point.

[dois raios]

Just wait guys, I also miss endless servers.

But one day they will come back.

https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/144094-game-update-528333/?do=findComment&comment=1604790

[Maxposting]

1 hour ago, Gashzer said:

It was a horrid corrupted server by the end up.

It did look nice, but the ways to keep the world alive were questionable.

[Tranoze]

Me chilling reading this thread then people suddenly bring up 10300 days public server (the 8000 days final number. The clap are for old day klei server glory)

But seriously though, current klei server state is a shame, not only for the long run players, but players who just want a weekend of dst game play. Let say you have full free time on saturday afternoon and evening to play dst, that about 8 hours of game plays, or 60 game days, but klei server often crash on day 25~35, especially on the weekend. That about when you finished your dinner and about to continue hardcore play, but server reset.
Now you just sitting there not knowing what to do. You dont have enough time to start another autumn. You dont have other game you enjoy than dst. You still have whole empty saturday evening left where you wanna test your fully tamed beefalo you just spend the afternoon taming.

This is i got when i asked dev why

[KeshS]

1 minute ago, Tranoze said:

Me chilling reading this thread then people suddenly bring up 10300 days public server (the 8000 days final number. The clap are for old day klei server glory)

But seriously though, current klei server state is a shame, not only for the long run players, but players who just want a weekend of dst game play. Let say you have full free time on saturday afternoon and evening to play dst, that about 8 hours of game plays, or 60 game days, but klei server often crash on day 25~35, especially on the weekend.

This is i got when i asked dev why

Holy crap. These servers are running on spot instances (most cheap plan) with a drawback that they can unexpectedly shut down. Klei do you understand what a dedicated host is? This type of plan is mostly used for batch processes that don't care about data loss. You can remove like half of the servers, and put dedicated instances instead. You can even negotiate reserved instances with significants price reduction, if you plan to run them for up to 3 years non stop.

[Tranoze]

6 minutes ago, KeshS said:

most cheap plan

I never used or heard of AWS before so i dont have any idea what that is, thank for clarify what that is and explained why klei server so bad these day. Can you tell more about those aws plan? Currently each region have about 5~6 server, and often only 2~3 of them actually have players playing at a time, is it possible to reduce number of server to 3 server per region and upgrade to better plan, or this plan are too dirt cheap to scale down for better servers?

[KeshS]

28 minutes ago, Tranoze said:

I never used or heard of AWS before so i dont have any idea what that is, thank for clarify what that is and explained why klei server so bad these day. Can you tell more about those aws plan? Currently each region have about 5~6 server, and often only 2~3 of them actually have players playing at a time, is it possible to reduce number of server to 3 server per region and upgrade to better plan, or this plan are too dirt cheap to scale down for better servers?

I know smart companies use it paired with other tools like spot.io to bring costs to the next level, like several thousand dollars saved each month compared to on-demand instances. It's a great saving plan if you know what are you doing. The thing is spot instances is like an open market, people bid for a pool of instances depending on the price they pay. If I for example willing to pay 10$ for an instance, it searches one that claims my 10$ depending on the market demand. If the demand increases, then you would see a lot of people willing to claim for example 15$ for an instance, and if the pool runs out they can claim my 10$ instance in which I don't own the server anymore and my data is lost. All this operations are performed automatically, but nobody stops me from buying a server for 16$ and re-run the processes once again. Spot instances can be up to 10x cheaper than on-demand instances, it's no wonder why some people would choose this option. The number one problem with them is they cause down time, and this is not a good option for a server that supposedly should run 24/7. That's why I recommended reserved instances, because you don't get those annoying disruptions and can save up to 72% discount compared to on-demand instances, the only requirement is you have to use them for 1 to 3 years. Those servers are running nonstop anyway, and I don't see Klei changing their policy as to quitting using them altogether. 

 

Edit: I understand why Amazon Game Lift service is using spot instances, for example multiplayer COD games last only about 30 minutes max. After that you can discard the session, and make a new one. With the game like Don't Starve this flow doesn't work like that, since it's not a fast paced matchmaking where there is a win condition.

[n11360]

Think yall getting that wrong here, im not asking for reliable servers for thousands of days ....under or barely 100 is to little thou.
Thats not even a full year ....how do i explain that best now?

You not a total beginner the one day and wake up a pro the next ....there is a progression curve from trying to survive on berri ratcoon and butterfly
 to beating Fuelweaver and Celestial Champion and dealing with the latest content just added,settled after those 2 are defeated.

Hate me for my opinion here but i think people of any progression state within thouse lines should be welcome to play on klei servers and the servers should be set to work within thouse perimeters,
Ofc i agree that 8k days or even 1k days is ridiculous.
But there has to be room for people who pull an allnighter with just like 3 guys and then in the morning suddenly lobby full again and those 3 go sleep thus the game surviving a couple of days.    

I kinda understand both extremes here, ive been on both ends tbh.

 

Those who are new to the game just trying to optimize the schedule therefore want as much restarts as possible as soon as they start struggeling to much.

And Those others wo want to keep the server alive, keep alive what they build on so hard, protect it and therefore go for thouse dubiouse skript methods to infinite afk as mentioned above.
I personaly never did something alike, my max is circle of statues to go afk for smoke or a sandwitch to avoid full lobby moment and thats it but i 100% know what is talked about here.

As i said ive been on both ends or at least played there and rn i would settle me at the upper end of the above mentioned perimeters i would like the servers to work with.
Im having fun while it lasts, gameplan is nomade life, get what i need for it the first lets say 30-40 days and then go back to interact with ppl, the "where is base" having some midgame fun with them ....show em some magix trix.
At this point im prettymuch happy to help ppl with anything crazy they come up with to send the server into nirvana.
 ...even came to terms with webber nonsense, can always get rid of it be webber myself if ppl think the lag should stop cause they wanna play more.
For me personaly i consider the server ded when it either unplayable messed up or dies down to the point where only like 3 or 4 ppl playing tops with no influx whatsoever.
I mean there is ups and downs ppl have jobs or school and have to sleep and thus there got to be variations in numbers but if its flatlining its ded.

Im okay with Servers to be just gone the next day, i learned you can finish the entire game in 30-40 days if you put effort into it.

Hell speedrun theory is even faster,day 1 shadows (ofc teamwork) do fw day 5ish +- depending on how much prerp you gonna need for the kill and thats talking legit kill,you could always craft a lureplant now and yk...

For CC in THEORY since they removed the 11 limitation with wicker moonbook and now wilsons transmute what eliminates the need for the moonevent entirely and dumps it down to a dfly kill i would say with enough teamwork,half of autumen?!?
Something around those lines ofcs you will need extrem teamwork and coordination for this 2 theoretical speedruns.

If you alone you will spend said 30-40 days thou for either of em on a reproducable basis, i dual quest both of em for a while with wilson trying doing 1 main the other as filler the best i came down to was start of summer ish.
Okay what got that to do with anything?
Here is how the usual game goes with no exp ppl,its Winter everyone PANIC DC trash base "GAME OVER".(not a great exp for everyone,been there)
Here is how the usual game goes with exp ppl,the low exp person will try to find others to make base with em resulting in a (no offense) shitty base while the more exp ppl will go to rush ruins prep pieces do pearl,tame Beef.
This will mostly drag out till start of winter when the low exp ppl will be starting to struggle in their shitty base at wich point the exp person will go camp the mc tusks,someone has to.
Mid Winter when DC spawns till Start of Spring is when things are coming together and interactions happen, the exp ppl will be done gearing up and willing to ..idk how to call this "just play" with everyone whos availible at this point,give em spare tusks ask what they wanna do.
The exp ppl will advance the shitty base to survive spring and summer make it a mediocor to good base and check out what kind of activity they can do with what is left.
At wich point realy everyone is happy thats only one scenario thou when ppl trust they can just play with normal ppl.
If the community has a to high occurence of griefing thou the medium to high exp ppl will resort to "secret base" and leave average low exp wilson alone with everage high exp willow specialized in burning base to ...well burn in fake base...

Okay enough of that now, my point is there is a certain periode of time everyone is on their own objectives before interacting with others reasonably.
They all throw a bone in the pot what is "where is base" but in the end everyone is doing what they came for,be it growing giants or killing CC and only after its Chilltime.
And recently Servers either Crash or Shut down exactly when it is Chilltime, thats no good for anyone ..the newbes will be in infinite perpetual autumn/winter loop and the exp ppl in infinite gear up loop.
Games have to be able to go at least a year if they going well,ofc if everyone dies then everyone died thats a different story.
Preferably more thou since Spring and Summer are not realy good chilltimes, more of a "duck downer",time for ppl to have Diner.
And after that it depends ...as long as the server is carrying the load and the server is full of ppl most of the times i realy dont see a reason why it should stop.

There has to be room for that one game with just the right composition of ppl where average noob (in my case)wendy is camping 1 irl day in lichen field (calling it ruins XD) being proud of surviving so long and good, rich on bananas.
And then Second Day gets DRAGGED around into ruins having the thrill of here life getting gifted a Beef and a magic Crown what frekin Glows in the dark! ...what a day that was ...back then under 1k hours exp...the game i learned ruins are resetabe.

Point is:
FFS dont shut down at day 40-100 im not talking even 1k days but a weekend or similar periodes of free time has to be in the limits and fix the crash issues.

its very frustrating to have no more "GG sleep well everyone:wave:" anymore.
just "sudden lag?", "yep server gone", "oh server shut down in 2:00 ....ty klein ...ty"

[nimzowitsch10]

For 2 years I have been asking on the forums for support with the pub servers and klei just doesn't care unfortunately. Whether it came to their servers never saving, the griefer groups, the random lag. I sometimes got dev responses that they're working on it but that never came to fruition. It's unfortunate but It's not like the old/endless servers didn't have their own problems when they existed. Griefer groups would scout out our bases with their observor + nightvision in the caves and burned everything. There was a point where they would hop on every day to grief our bases. Nowadays I just play on klei survival pub servers up till maybe winter and leave. Hopefully one day klei makes a moderated community server, but that's wishful thinking. Noone really cares on this forum and they will make snide comments to get their upvotes.

[dois raios]

48 minutes ago, nimzowitsch10 said:

For 2 years I have been asking on the forums for support with the pub servers and klei just doesn't care unfortunately. Whether it came to their servers never saving, the griefer groups, the random lag. I sometimes got dev responses that they're working on it but that never came to fruition. It's unfortunate but It's not like the old/endless servers didn't have their own problems when they existed. Griefer groups would scout out our bases with their observor + nightvision in the caves and burned everything. There was a point where they would hop on every day to grief our bases. Nowadays I just play on klei survival pub servers up till maybe winter and leave. Hopefully one day klei makes a moderated community server, but that's wishful thinking. Noone really cares on this forum and they will make snide comments to get their upvotes.

I think griefers are 'part of the experience', there is no solution, they are in every multiplayer game, and they are looking for attention, so the right thing to do is: just ignore them

nowadays I realise that my posts in the forum about them were a mistake.

the other problems can wait, as long as endless are back I will be happy I am waiting like 11 months for endless to come back, and when I used to play in them, there were just 2 times where the world got corrupted and reseted by itself. It doesnt appear to be a consistent problem (but since I dont play in pubs since endless disappeared, I dont have the authority to speak about it)

[Cheggf]

2 hours ago, nimzowitsch10 said:

For 2 years I have been asking on the forums for support with the pub servers and klei just doesn't care unfortunately. Whether it came to their servers never saving, the griefer groups, the random lag. I sometimes got dev responses that they're working on it but that never came to fruition. It's unfortunate but It's not like the old/endless servers didn't have their own problems when they existed. Griefer groups would scout out our bases with their observor + nightvision in the caves and burned everything. There was a point where they would hop on every day to grief our bases. Nowadays I just play on klei survival pub servers up till maybe winter and leave. Hopefully one day klei makes a moderated community server, but that's wishful thinking. Noone really cares on this forum and they will make snide comments to get their upvotes.

Why are you hoping for Klei to make a moderated server when there's already plenty of moderated servers?

[GenomeSquirrel]

I will agree that the game quickly advances to a point where you can't be on the same screen as spiders, let alone attempt to engage one in combat

Yet even in the day there can be long drags of latency and rewinds, how much of it is twiggy trees and how much it is the expanding world I'm not sure

I've had this happen even in first spring, with no Webbers to scapegoat

[b l a n k]

13 hours ago, dois raios said:

Just wait guys, I also miss endless servers.

But one day they will come back.

https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/144094-game-update-528333/?do=findComment&comment=1604790

Not gonna lie, the Klei Endless servers coming back would be pointless with the "server resets when game updates" feature... Also they can be badly generated with only twiggy trees, or without triple walrus. It's just better to play on a community-hosted Endless, for a lot of reasons

[Cheggf]

10 hours ago, b l a n k said:

Not gonna lie, the Klei Endless servers coming back would be pointless with the "server resets when game updates" feature... Also they can be badly generated with only twiggy trees, or without triple walrus. It's just better to play on a community-hosted Endless, for a lot of reasons

Why does everyone hate twiggy tree worlds? They're better than normal worlds since you get both twiggy trees (surface) and saplings (caves, relocatable) unlike normal worlds where you only get saplings.

[Retepeter]

5 minutes ago, Cheggf said:

They're better than normal worlds since you get both twiggy trees (surface) and saplings (caves, relocatable) unlike normal worlds where you only get saplings.

They're ugly and useless but unfortunately they generate even in normal worlds so if you really want to make some kind of farm or something decorative you can get them by waiting a year, In twiggy tree worlds you don't get saplings, ever especially in klei public servers where you cant just turn on basic recourse regrowth. There's also the slight chance to get twiggies in both shards in which case you need to go to the moon to get the only 20 saplings in the world (which look different so there's some cases where you cant decorate witht them) or switch to wormwood (but as we all know making only one character able to solve an issue with the game isn't a good idea) 

There's a reason most youtubers turn them off in the world gen. Also having something about the world decided the moment you generate it just leads to mass regen spam which nobody likes (ahem triple tusk and reed traps before wicker rework)