RoughCactus69 Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 What do you Wigfrid mains think will be added with the skill tree? Or what crazy singular skill do you hope they add? For me, I want them to add the ability for Wigfrid to eat butterflies as crazy as it sounds. What are you guys ideas? What do you think they'll add? Sincerely, Cactus Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149935-wigfrid-skill-tree-the-hopes-and-the-wants/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacula Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 I think a cool ability she could get is to throw her battle spears. Kinda like tossing wolfgangs dumbell Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149935-wigfrid-skill-tree-the-hopes-and-the-wants/#findComment-1655161 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCCR33 Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 Necessary: Inspiration and Battle songs Adjustments, Planar Damage and faction damage compensation Innovative: New combat methods, throwing spears, shield blocking and counterattack New exclusive equipment Full version: Quote Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149935-wigfrid-skill-tree-the-hopes-and-the-wants/#findComment-1655172 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antynomity Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 She doesn't need much aside of stuff to help with new content like a new planar song. She better not be able to eat any non-meats that she can't eat currently lol. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149935-wigfrid-skill-tree-the-hopes-and-the-wants/#findComment-1655175 Share on other sites More sharing options...
D_Good_Fellow Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 This is so hard because Wigfrid is pretty fun to play as right now and I worry that buffing her will negatively affect that. Wigfrid isn't usually identified as OP, but only because her max damage output doesn't match Wolfgang/Maxwell/Wanda. Wigfrid's existing bonuses are incredible: her damage buff is immediate and passive, not to mention she has incredible defensive abilities (natural damage resistance, easily craftable armor, and health/sanity restoration from combat). She can't keep up with Wolf/Wand/Max in terms of damage, but in terms of making the game easier for the player Wigfrid treads very closely to being overpowered imo. However Wigfrid's downside, while not terribly intense, does force you to play the game a little atypically by spending more time hunting than at base. Killing + eating spiders/batilisks maintains all three stats for Wig better than most other early game methods of doing so, for example. So even though Wigfrid's existing bonuses make the game a lot easier, her incentivized play style differs enough that playing as her is still uniquely engaging and fun. Wigfrid is very easy to play as without stepping on the toes of other characters/players, which is nice. For that reason, I'd rather Wigfrid's skill tree lean more in a "fun" direction than a "powerful" one. Too many attack/damage resistance buffs could render Wigfrid's early game basically effortless to the point of it being unfun. Planar compensation obviously makes sense, but beyond that I really don't want Wigfrid competing with the heavy hitters in terms of damage output. New songs could work (although I've still never really found the time to use the existing ones) and spear throwing is a great example of a combat perk that won't negatively affect how people play Wigfrid. Maybe a viking longboat craftable that makes naval combat easier? Basically I'd rather Wigfrid get unique things to do rather than stat buffs. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149935-wigfrid-skill-tree-the-hopes-and-the-wants/#findComment-1655228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riddla Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 I would love skills that give her bonuses to Beefalo riding, and mayhaps some sort of follower boosting capabilities too - like she's inspiring every single ally to battle alongside her. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149935-wigfrid-skill-tree-the-hopes-and-the-wants/#findComment-1655229 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan_Gardy Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 despite the fact that all characters with a skill tree have a choice between the lunar and the shadow side, Wigfrit will also have it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149935-wigfrid-skill-tree-the-hopes-and-the-wants/#findComment-1655234 Share on other sites More sharing options...
goatt Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 She needs to make wine. She’s Viking! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149935-wigfrid-skill-tree-the-hopes-and-the-wants/#findComment-1655235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlogy Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 It could be cool if different skills could change the effects of songs, either slightly or drastically changing (such as a skill that changes Fireproof Falsetto to give fire-based damage?). Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149935-wigfrid-skill-tree-the-hopes-and-the-wants/#findComment-1655348 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WONTow Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 Barrel roll, that is a complete and shameless carbon copy of Wheelers slide, since they're never gonna add the single player characters anyway. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149935-wigfrid-skill-tree-the-hopes-and-the-wants/#findComment-1655388 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-met Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 Give her her shield that uses up the body slot and acts like a weaker blacksmiths edge from Forge (not full resistance) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149935-wigfrid-skill-tree-the-hopes-and-the-wants/#findComment-1655391 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr. brj Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 I want a craftable shield:D I imagine it would function similar to shield of terror, except it has an AoE slam and, of course, you can't feed it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149935-wigfrid-skill-tree-the-hopes-and-the-wants/#findComment-1655393 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gashzer Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 Wigfrid being able to do timed parries to stun mobs or to negate 100% of damage for the cost of shield durability would be alot of fun. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149935-wigfrid-skill-tree-the-hopes-and-the-wants/#findComment-1655547 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCCR33 Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 Wigfrid's skill design can be like Woodie Wigfrid's skill: There is no direct increase in damage except for planar damage and Shadow/Moon damage Optimize and enhance existing skills, and obtain a breakthrough skill for each skill branch Adjusting inspiration (easier to obtain and maintain inspiration) Adjust the war song (singing time, effective time, more effects, repeat the war song to take effect) Of course, there can also be some modest numerical enhancements Adjust the combat spear (proficient in using spears, with spear damage bonus, throwing spears) Faced with many enemies, gain additional damage reduction and shorten the time interrupted by enemies Innovative Skills More exclusive equipment (spear, helmet, wings) Shield and block counterattack (other weapons linked to shields, such as sea fishing rods, consume inspiration) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149935-wigfrid-skill-tree-the-hopes-and-the-wants/#findComment-1655552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloopah Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 11 hours ago, WONTow said: Barrel roll, that is a complete and shameless carbon copy of Wheelers slide, since they're never gonna add the single player characters anyway. Warly and Wormwood: Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149935-wigfrid-skill-tree-the-hopes-and-the-wants/#findComment-1655553 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirsg Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 Spear throwing, obviously. I'd like a planar damage boost... However... I'd like a more intensive system than just a flat planar additive or multiplier. It would bother me if she had to spend and entire perk point on a damage boost, that is absolutely inferior to Wolfgang in that niche. I would find it really sad to waste an entire slot just to be a budget Wolfgang. I think she should have exclusive brightshade and void crafts. In my nerding out, I've found sources of Loki, the trickster god and not the marvel character. Loki himself crafted a weapon called "Lævateinn" and because of the sheer mystery and vague nature of the weapon, Klei has unlimited creative liberty when it comes to design and function of the craft. I believe that lunar/shadow alignment for Wigfrid should present her with different crafts. There might be a risk of Wigfrid being a switch character or a craft slave, so perhaps in the hands of other characters, make the crafts simply on par with brightshade sword and the scythe, but for Wigfrid, grant her an exclusive boost in damage and if the crafts are spears, allow her to throw them as well. So, let's begin Lævateinn, Shadow aligned. Norse mythological weapon crafted by Loki. VERY vague when it comes to function in traditional norse mythology. It is thought to be either a sword, wand or dart. But the beauty of it, is as I've mentioned before, Klei has absolute creative liberty when it comes to the craft. It can be absolutely anything. But to highlight it being a dart, it doesn't even need to be a spear in order to be thrown. Gungnir, Spear of Odin I'll easily concede that Gungnir has very little to do with the moon or Mani in norse mythology, but as the kids would say "Let him cook" The moon right now has strong association with Wagstaff right now, and when it comes to my profession in grasping at straws, the moon's role in DST has correlation to dominion and Wagstaff's role when it comes to dominion in the constant. It's not the same as Charlie's obvious manner of dominion. However, Wagstaff has a freedom that Charlie simply does not, as he still associates with the normal world, unlike she does. I'd haphazardly put a circle in a square just to get Gungnir into the game. If there's a better idea for a moon craft for an exclusive weapon for Wigfrid, I'm all ears. But man, Wigfrid getting Gungnir would actually be so B.A. To supplement Gungnir and spear throwing, Gungnir is said to be so well balanced, anyone can throw it and never miss a target. I'll add more ideas if I think of them, but honestly, In lieu of a flat planar damage modifier, I would seriously prefer a craft that boosts her own planar damage. As for songs, I propose she has a book that grants her the ability to sing "All these things I've done" by The Killers in Wigfrid's voice. The entire song. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149935-wigfrid-skill-tree-the-hopes-and-the-wants/#findComment-1655568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sapientis Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 I only really want this: Would be great to cross little gaps between lands and all, apart from combat power. I guess Weaponized Warble could also further lower weapon durability usage (or even prevent it). Her skills could also lower Inspiration drop rate out of combat or even lower Inspiration cost of some Battle Songs, allowing her to utilize more than three songs at once plus allowing to use Rude Interlude and Startling Soliloquy for free. I also hope pretty useless song like Fireproof Falsetto will get some love, imagine just setting Wigfrid on fire when using that Battle Song! Some would hate it (Wormwood) but some would love it (Willow). Edit: I'd also like to get a little storage out of basic equipment for the Battle Songs, maybe something similar to Wilson's Beard storage but only for up to 3-5 Battle Songs. They fill a lot of space to be easily used while clearing ruins and during some more intense Boss fights like AFW or Crab King when inventory space is extremely scarce. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149935-wigfrid-skill-tree-the-hopes-and-the-wants/#findComment-1655589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Vol Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 Wigfrid is a actress playing viking. She should have some seafaring skills for her voyaging. She could build a better boat too. Seafaring tree: T1 Crafted boats have more durability. T2 Boat patches heal your boat for more. T3 Have better control over your boat while using a sail. Polearm efficiency: T1 Gives 5% more damage to polearm weapons. T2 Gives 10% more damage to polearm weapons. T3 Gives 15% more damage to polearm weapons T4 Gain the ability to craft javelin (only used by Wigfrid) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149935-wigfrid-skill-tree-the-hopes-and-the-wants/#findComment-1655745 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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