Hornete Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 Currently, the new Brightshade Shovel is a bit of a glorified golden shovel (Along with the new planar damage mechanics, but of course a shovel is not meant to be used as a weapon so that's there more so for consistency). I think it would be really interesting and fun to have the brightshade shovel show it's strength as a post-CC tool by letting it dig what are usually undiggables and let you able to replant them! Stuff like: Lightbulb Flowers Lichen Cacti Natural Swamp Reeds Lesser Glow Berries This would be a game changer but again it would be fitting for a post-CC tool, a point of the game where the game becomes very sandbox-y for most, and giving this kind of world customization would be great. Thanks for reading! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146952-suggestion-let-the-brightshade-shovel-dig-undiggables/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxil20 Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 I think this would be very nice! I see a lot of potential with it, and as mentioned you normally have to kill CC for it so it wouldn’t be too powerful at the point you get it. It would be a cool perk! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146952-suggestion-let-the-brightshade-shovel-dig-undiggables/#findComment-1628411 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatSkinner Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 Based. Epic. Swag. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146952-suggestion-let-the-brightshade-shovel-dig-undiggables/#findComment-1628412 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopper_ Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 this would be an awesome addition/reward for the endgame past CC, I'd love to see the shovel get a change like this Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146952-suggestion-let-the-brightshade-shovel-dig-undiggables/#findComment-1628413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemolymph Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 I'd KILL for this. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146952-suggestion-let-the-brightshade-shovel-dig-undiggables/#findComment-1628420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nimzowitsch10 Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 this would be kinda op and unbalanced, even though it sounds awesome Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146952-suggestion-let-the-brightshade-shovel-dig-undiggables/#findComment-1628425 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dextops Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, nimzowitsch10 said: this would be kinda op and unbalanced, even though it sounds awesome Well seeing as you have to kill an end game boss it doesn’t really seem op this seems more for decor as only cactus would really prove useful Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146952-suggestion-let-the-brightshade-shovel-dig-undiggables/#findComment-1628427 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinja Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 Very epic suggestion, I love it. 3 minutes ago, nimzowitsch10 said: this would be kinda op and unbalanced, even though it sounds awesome Would be monumental for world customization and decoration which is pretty much the rest of the game once you complete the end game. And if someone thought it was OP nothing is stopping them from simply not using it. Public servers never last long enough for it to be a problem on them anyway and private servers can be moderated as desired by the host so this would literally impact no one in a negative way. Those that want it would have the option and those that don’t can go on exactly as before. Seems like a no lose situation. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146952-suggestion-let-the-brightshade-shovel-dig-undiggables/#findComment-1628428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nimzowitsch10 Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 @Vinjabut i have a feeling that cc isn't the true endgame, I feel like a drop like that should come from fighting charlie or something. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146952-suggestion-let-the-brightshade-shovel-dig-undiggables/#findComment-1628429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinja Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, nimzowitsch10 said: @Vinjabut i have a feeling that cc isn't the true endgame, I feel like a drop like that should come from fighting charlie or something. To me it would just make sense for them to add this now. It’s such a massive quality of life improvement that requires overcoming quite a tough challenge to acquire which gives added incentive for players to actually try to beat the endgame, and if new post CC content is added sometime down the line it could always be changed to reflect that if the devs so choose, which would be completely fair. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146952-suggestion-let-the-brightshade-shovel-dig-undiggables/#findComment-1628433 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfoIsBestWolf Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 By the time you beat Celestial Champion you already have multiple infinite light sources, Stone Fruit for veggies and the ability to get tons of Banana Bushes for Sanity and Monkeytails for Reeds. Replanting any of these wouldn't be all that useful per say but still incredibly cool for base building and decorations. I'm all for it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146952-suggestion-let-the-brightshade-shovel-dig-undiggables/#findComment-1628509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juanasdf Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 I was hoping the shovel would either retain a plant's fertilizer or straight up remove the need for fertilization for berries, banana bushes and stone fruit. But that is also a neat idea, although replanting reeds would probably make monkey tails useless Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146952-suggestion-let-the-brightshade-shovel-dig-undiggables/#findComment-1628513 Share on other sites More sharing options...
twitchgabo Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 I'm game! Amazing idea Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146952-suggestion-let-the-brightshade-shovel-dig-undiggables/#findComment-1628551 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinja Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 3 hours ago, Juanasdf said: I was hoping the shovel would either retain a plant's fertilizer or straight up remove the need for fertilization for berries, banana bushes and stone fruit. But that is also a neat idea, although replanting reeds would probably make monkey tails useless Wouldn’t make them useless, monkey tails are available without ever defeating an endgame boss which only a small fraction of players have defeated. Monkey tails would still be the primary option to majority of players trying to create a reed farm. Feels to me like arguing that the gold axe shouldn’t exist because it would make the flint axe irrelevant. No, both are fine and their usefulness corresponds with their difficulty to obtain. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146952-suggestion-let-the-brightshade-shovel-dig-undiggables/#findComment-1628560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB Marioni Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 13 hours ago, Dextops said: Well seeing as you have to kill an end game boss it doesn’t really seem op this seems more for decor as only cactus would really prove useful but you can have it without killing CC right? through world settings Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146952-suggestion-let-the-brightshade-shovel-dig-undiggables/#findComment-1628566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dextops Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, BB Marioni said: but you can have it without killing CC right? through world settings Yeah but i always base my opinions around vanilla settings since they are more objective and have less variables Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146952-suggestion-let-the-brightshade-shovel-dig-undiggables/#findComment-1628567 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinja Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 31 minutes ago, BB Marioni said: but you can have it without killing CC right? through world settings You can also get rid of sanity monsters, reduce damage taken, make hunger nonlethal, remove threats, spawn tons of resources Anything other than default World settings are irrelevant to the discussion of balance. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146952-suggestion-let-the-brightshade-shovel-dig-undiggables/#findComment-1628576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodyRandom Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 1 hour ago, BB Marioni said: but you can have it without killing CC right? through world settings Even then, Klei could do something like putting a system in place that checks for if CC has been killed at least once in the world and if CC has not been killed, the tools and everything would stay at around the same state they are currently, and if they have been killed, buff the tools to be more fitting for endgame content. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146952-suggestion-let-the-brightshade-shovel-dig-undiggables/#findComment-1628594 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamehun20 Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 1 hour ago, SomebodyRandom said: Even then, Klei could do something like putting a system in place that checks for if CC has been killed at least once in the world and if CC has not been killed, the tools and everything would stay at around the same state they are currently, and if they have been killed, buff the tools to be more fitting for endgame content. That just seems like a lot of work for a very strange reason Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146952-suggestion-let-the-brightshade-shovel-dig-undiggables/#findComment-1628617 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyberSkink Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 16 hours ago, Hemolymph said: I'd KILL for this. I’d kill celestial champion for this. (Compared to the people like jazzy, I’m not good yet lol, I’ve barely beaten Klaus with a friend) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146952-suggestion-let-the-brightshade-shovel-dig-undiggables/#findComment-1628618 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ApoIIo Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 17 hours ago, nimzowitsch10 said: this would be kinda op and unbalanced, even though it sounds awesome almost all of these undiggables are outclassed by something you can access on the way to CC to begin with lichen is inferior to stone fruit, cacti becomes inferior to kelp via drying racks, lightbulbs are unnecessary since you have infinite light on both your head and the rest of the world in the form of forever full moons, natural swamp reeds are just a limited form of monkeytails; reeds hardly have recurrent uses to begin with and lesser glow berries are kind of useless. marginally helpful at most. such a shovel would be almost entirely cosmetic, but it would be neat nonetheless Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146952-suggestion-let-the-brightshade-shovel-dig-undiggables/#findComment-1628654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brago-sama Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 The Warly in me is salivating at the thought of hassle free glowberry mouse. Yes please Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146952-suggestion-let-the-brightshade-shovel-dig-undiggables/#findComment-1628664 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahoood Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, Brago-sama said: The Warly in me is salivating at the thought of hassle free glowberry mouse. Yes please Glow berry from forest stalker is way more hassle free than getting this. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146952-suggestion-let-the-brightshade-shovel-dig-undiggables/#findComment-1628665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brago-sama Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 25 minutes ago, Mahoood said: Glow berry from forest stalker is way more hassle free than getting this. Eh idk about that, i play solo so its super slow having to make him walk, go back and gather 1-2, repeat. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146952-suggestion-let-the-brightshade-shovel-dig-undiggables/#findComment-1628678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinja Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Habakkuk said: I would like to add that Klei could limit the place we could plant those, like for example Light Bulb Flowers only in caves. Booooo I mean I would understand if they did that but booooooo Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146952-suggestion-let-the-brightshade-shovel-dig-undiggables/#findComment-1628707 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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