nimzowitsch10 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 So I was playing on a klei pub server, and a known griefer comes in and asks repeatedly where base is. He burns down the surface base we made and from there we kick him. Immediately after we call the vote the server starts to red bar and it's like the server is being DDos'd and the server crashes which resets the server to day 1 (it was day 400). I believe he is using a client mod that overloads the server with requests, or he has found a way to DDos the server somehow. I think it would be in klei's best interests to look into this matter. The server it happened on was The Bee Hive US East Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/142788-ddos-on-klei-pub-server/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gashzer Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 Man you guys must rage so hard if this same griefer comes time and time again.... he must be having so much fun griefing you im a wee bit jealous Maybe its time to join a discord with a dedicated server and admins instead of repeatly playing Klei servers?? Posting complaint after complaint Nimzowitsch isn't gonna make Klei devote resources to moderate Klei servers... hope they dont, i rather they spend that time on new content an new characters. Klei either needs to shut down their servers an let people make their own servers or enable pvp an let you deal with griefers yourself. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/142788-ddos-on-klei-pub-server/#findComment-1595543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nimzowitsch10 Posted August 23, 2022 Author Share Posted August 23, 2022 @Gashzer I've played on private "public servers" and I've also hosted my own servers, it's just not the same. The fact that noone is in control is what makes klei pub servers fun, the anarchy aspect. I guess I don't care much about ppl burning base and stuff but DDos is something I don't enjoy Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/142788-ddos-on-klei-pub-server/#findComment-1595544 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArubaroBeefalo Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 2 hours ago, Gashzer said: Man you guys must rage so hard if this same griefer comes time and time again.... he must be having so much fun griefing you im a wee bit jealous Maybe its time to join a discord with a dedicated server and admins instead of repeatly playing Klei servers?? Posting complaint after complaint Nimzowitsch isn't gonna make Klei devote resources to moderate Klei servers... hope they dont, i rather they spend that time on new content an new characters. Klei either needs to shut down their servers an let people make their own servers or enable pvp an let you deal with griefers yourself. i wasnt planning on answering a comment with such disgusting tone but here im if you though about the topic instead of sounding arrogant you would realize that, if true, having servers being vulnerable to DDoS is bad publicity and dangerous for the company. Bad publicity can cut resources to release that new content you want isnt about having moderators, is about security Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/142788-ddos-on-klei-pub-server/#findComment-1595547 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetulantPansy Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 Playing on a private server doesn't solve the root problem that it's possible to DDOS servers in general. If it is indeed true that you can do this to servers, that's something that hopefully the game devs would look into and prevent. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/142788-ddos-on-klei-pub-server/#findComment-1595548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gashzer Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 11 minutes ago, ArubaroBeefalo said: i wasnt planning on answering a comment with such disgusting tone but here im if you though about the topics instead of sounding arrogant you would realize that, if true, having servers being vulnerable to DDoS is bad publicity and dangerous for the company. Bad publicity can cut resources to release that new content you want isnt about having moderators, is about security Then shut down the servers?? Klei devs have talked about doing so in the past. Klei are on the fence here, they need to get off the fence an pick a side... is griefing allowed an apart of klei servers dst, in which case slap on wilderness mode, enable pvp and let people have fun in the chaos. Or is it strictly coop at all times, in which case, klei cant trust the public to moderate their servers and have to spend resources moderating themselves. Wilderness mode was designed for pvp and its never used on klei servers. Atleast test them for abit Klei. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/142788-ddos-on-klei-pub-server/#findComment-1595550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArubaroBeefalo Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 Just now, Gashzer said: Then shut down the servers?? Klei devs have talked about doing so in the past. Klei are on the fence here, they need to get off the fence an pick a side... is griefing allowed an apart of klei servers dst, in which case slap on wilderness mode, enable pvp and let people have fun in the chaos. Or is it strictly coop at all times, in which case, klei cant trust the public to moderate their servers and have to spend resources moderating themselves. Wilderness mode was designed for pvp and its never used on klei servers. Atleast test them for abit Klei. ... again, the topic is about a ddos atack not about griefing Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/142788-ddos-on-klei-pub-server/#findComment-1595551 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer JesseB_Klei Posted August 23, 2022 Developer Share Posted August 23, 2022 I do not see any logs of the server itself crashing from my side but if any of you know of methods to crash or make servers stall out please send information on it in private to me or to Klei Support so that they may get forwarded to the team to get it patched up. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/142788-ddos-on-klei-pub-server/#findComment-1595553 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gashzer Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 26 minutes ago, ArubaroBeefalo said: ... again, the topic is about a ddos atack not about griefing Do you have proof that it is a ddos attack apart from Nimzo's word? Even if this is a ddos attack, clearly its personal between Nimzo and his recurrent griefer friend. Then its an isolated problem, if it becomes every klei server then i would be worried. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/142788-ddos-on-klei-pub-server/#findComment-1595554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notecja Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, Gashzer said: Then its an isolated problem, if it becomes every klei server then i would be worried. I can imagine proper ddos could totally damage Klei server. If that can be done, either security could be broken in other ways. That's why klei should look into it, if that really happened and how happened. At least as long any other event isn't mistaken as ddos. Just engaging forums is bad idea. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/142788-ddos-on-klei-pub-server/#findComment-1595555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeW Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 Keep posts on topic, polite and without personal attacks or move on and don't reply. Thanks. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/142788-ddos-on-klei-pub-server/#findComment-1595583 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetulantPansy Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 8 hours ago, JesseB_Klei said: I do not see any logs of the server itself crashing from my side but if any of you know of methods to crash or make servers stall out please send information on it in private to me or to Klei Support so that they may get forwarded to the team to get it patched up. Wouldn't this make the situation all the more mysterious, since we pretty much know for sure the server crashed? The players on the server did not vote to regenerate the world and the day count has restarted. Not sure if this is helpful but I believe the server crashed around ~22 hours ago from the time of this writing. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/142788-ddos-on-klei-pub-server/#findComment-1595602 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antynomity Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 13 hours ago, nimzowitsch10 said: @Gashzer I've played on private "public servers" and I've also hosted my own servers, it's just not the same. The fact that noone is in control is what makes klei pub servers fun, the anarchy aspect. I guess I don't care much about ppl burning base and stuff but DDos is something I don't enjoy If you enjoy the anarchy aspect then you should also enjoy your bases getting griefed. On a more serious note... Okay? That's your problem, there will always be people that want to 'ruin' the fun in multiplayer games, it's just how it is, and by making constant posts about them you're givivng them what they want so... If that was an actual DDos though, hopefully klei will patch that vulnerability out eventually. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/142788-ddos-on-klei-pub-server/#findComment-1595620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Rage Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 Klei and / or the community could set up honeypot public servers with machine learning AI that imitates noobs (the latter should not be a hard thing to do since most noobs follow basic algorithms) to detract griefers. ... Obviously a joke but the feasibility makes this an entertaining thought. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/142788-ddos-on-klei-pub-server/#findComment-1595622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliffford W. Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 39 minutes ago, Captain_Rage said: Klei and / or the community could set up honeypot public servers with machine learning AI that imitates noobs (the latter should not be a hard thing to do since most noobs follow basic algorithms) to detract griefers. ... Obviously a joke but the feasibility makes this an entertaining thought. people dont need to be on server to commit a DDoS Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/142788-ddos-on-klei-pub-server/#findComment-1595627 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capybara007 Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 13 hours ago, yourAnty said: On a more serious note... Okay? That's your problem, there will always be people that want to 'ruin' the fun in multiplayer games its mind blowing how people will justify a system working poorly by saying this Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/142788-ddos-on-klei-pub-server/#findComment-1595708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antynomity Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 8 hours ago, Capybara007 said: its mind blowing how people will justify a system working poorly by saying this mind blowing how people cut up messages and ignore the rest to show someone in a different light Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/142788-ddos-on-klei-pub-server/#findComment-1595750 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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