Extimous Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 What are the guidelines for distributing loot from force-spawned bosses? Before when there was one Deerclops per season, everyone who participated in the fight had an equal chance to get the eyeball by rolling highest. Now that people can use glommer goop to make their own Deerclops spawn, it becomes very legally messy. Does the person who fired the flare keep the loot for themselves if they intended to solo? Or is it the prerogative of whoever calls dibs/rolls for a glommer goop when he poops? What if other people arrive to the fight? Are they allowed to grab a stake in someone else's fight? A sort of "legal spat" happened on a public server, so I thought I would ask on the forum to see what the community thinks at large. I think since it's a flare it should be fair game for anyone who arrives, and if the player really wants to keep the item for themselves they can take just a little extra effort upon themselves to find a remote area to do the fight Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/142741-hostile-flare-etiquette/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riddla Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 I view it like this: Did you use the flare specifically far away from everyone? The eyeball is yours and is up to you whether to share or not. The person who happens to stumble upon you has either the choice to help you out of kindness, or leave you alone with it, however because you are the one who engaged and harmed it the most, the loot is still the most favored towards you. Did you use the flare and two or more people came? In most cases, you are well aware that people are already near you, and you put them at risk by involving them due to flare's random nature of spawning, therefore you'll have to roll it. Most of the time, those people who participated and damaged the boss a lot get to roll. It will indeed feel unfair if one invests effort and just gets excluded from being given the chance to obtain loot. It varies from situation to situation of course. However, especially in pubs, please just communicate with your fellow players. Warn them that you'll spawn, or that you take dibs on the eyebrella. Being quiet or expecting people to read your intentions will just lead to unnecessary arguments. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/142741-hostile-flare-etiquette/#findComment-1595161 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dzzydzzy Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Riddla said: I view it like this: Did you use the flare specifically far away from everyone? The eyeball is yours and is up to you whether to share or not. The person who happens to stumble upon you has either the choice to help you out of kindness, or leave you alone with it, however because you are the one who engaged and harmed it the most, the loot is still the most favored towards you. Did you use the flare and two or more people came? In most cases, you are well aware that people are already near you, and you put them at risk by involving them due to flare's random nature of spawning, therefore you'll have to roll it. Most of the time, those people who participated and damaged the boss a lot get to roll. It will indeed feel unfair if one invests effort and just gets excluded from being given the chance to obtain loot. It varies from situation to situation of course. However, especially in pubs, please just communicate with your fellow players. Warn them that you'll spawn, or that you take dibs on the eyebrella. Being quiet or expecting people to read your intentions will just lead to unnecessary arguments. Well this is all clean and concise but where things get muddy for me is in situations of Pub servers in particular. Where did you get the flare from? did you collect all the resources for it? Were you the one who got Glommer in the first place? (theres only 1 opportunity without a Wicker who also needs to rush lunar books to get glommer in time to produce goop for the hostile flares before winter is over). Have you been picking up glommer's goop yourself or just snatched it out of a chest? Even with a glommer at base from full moon day 11, you only get 5 goops before winter is over without killing him IIRC. What if you divvy up the flares evenly? Well there's a 40% chance no deerclopse even comes! Even with full efficiency things can be very messy. Only way to assure one gets their eye is by hoarding the flares to themselves until after one successful eye is obtained. This isn't a particularly courteous strategy. What is the diplomatic way to decide this? I don't have an answer, curious what other people have to say. Also on a slightly similar note of hostile flare etiquette: I want it to be common knowledge to all DST players that using the hostile flare before night 30 (natural Deerclops spawn night) completely deletes a free eyeball. By spawning one successfully via flare, it resets the natural spawner from what I can tell from playing. This is a good way to frustrate everyone and lose out on a free extra eye, so don't do it! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/142741-hostile-flare-etiquette/#findComment-1595170 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheggf Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 Who could have foreseen that adding an item with a single source of its materials would lead to drama about who deserves its rewards? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/142741-hostile-flare-etiquette/#findComment-1595174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notecja Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 If someone was making flares, doesnt necessary mean it's for deerclops. So just ask if you can use someone's flare. Otherwise you are going to use your own flare. Getting glommer is for everyone and can be done many many days before flares. More questionable is killing him than getting or collecting his poop. So let's skip that one in rolling (especially some people will munch their poop raw and yolo, and won't ask if anybody needs these). If too many people wants Eyebrella for just <any> reason, then maybe fight another Deerclops? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/142741-hostile-flare-etiquette/#findComment-1595209 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellium Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 Glommer goop is for Wormwood blooming and Walter singing. Therefore, the mere construction of hostile flares is griefing (if one is present on the server) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/142741-hostile-flare-etiquette/#findComment-1595226 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capybara007 Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 nobody will keep 2 eyeballs unless they are being a jerk Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/142741-hostile-flare-etiquette/#findComment-1595237 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty_Mentos Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 21 minutes ago, Capybara007 said: nobody will keep 2 eyeballs unless they are being a jerk Unless you farmed for it all and if you want a houndius or to give to someone or eat it. Idk. No rules but just feels unethical to waste the spares. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/142741-hostile-flare-etiquette/#findComment-1595240 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falkenpelz Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 I would say: If you summon the boss away from base on your own, it's your fight and your loot, similar to people who go out to fight McTusk or go hunting. If you have spare, share - similar to how no sane person keeps two tammos or canes to themselves on a pub. If you summon the boss next to a group of people with their consent to fight together, you all roll for the loot. If you summon the boss next to a group's camp without telling anyone, especially at base, you are a danger to society. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/142741-hostile-flare-etiquette/#findComment-1595291 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antynomity Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 On 8/21/2022 at 6:34 AM, Cheggf said: Who could have foreseen that adding an item with a single source of its materials would lead to drama about who deserves its rewards? That totally wasn't a thing before! People totally didn't fight over the eyebrella before the hostile flare! FORUMS PURGE FORUMS PURGE1 MY OPINION IS BETTER! FORUMS PURGE! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/142741-hostile-flare-etiquette/#findComment-1595438 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.
Please be aware that the content of this thread may be outdated and no longer applicable.