Cuernito. Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 I discovered something funny. Idk if the people already know about this but this has to be one of the best things wickerbottom got during the rework. thats why im trying to know if this is intended or not. Are ya ready? Wicker can use everything encyclopedia to unlock tier 2 magic stuff, yep she just need a scince machine now :0. At first i thought that the recipes using the book were temporary but no, you actually unlock the recipe, so if you want for example mass farm dark swords during early game you just need to use everything encyclopedia one time :0. So yeah thats all, what do you think? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/142407-wow-is-this-intended/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 I think it’s intended yes- as it is the “Everything” Encyclopedia- it would not make sense for it to only temporarily unlock crafting options. Also apparently if you read this book near other players it also unlocks crafting recipes for them as well however- I think you have a limited time frame in which you can craft after using this book, but the recipes you unlock remain permanently unlocked. it wouldn’t make sense to “temporarily” learn how to craft something- and it would make this book way too annoying/make other players way too demanding of Wicker to use it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/142407-wow-is-this-intended/#findComment-1592297 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lokena Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 14 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said: it wouldn’t make sense to “temporarily” learn how to craft something- and it would make this book way too annoying/make other players way too demanding of Wicker to use it. I think it might work if this or an improved book of the second tier with a similar effect would be like Brain of Thought from Shipwreck. That is, it would open recipes without studying them, but ignoring the need for the right crafting station, like recipes for ruins, for example. This would be super useful, especially considering the discussion around the book about the full moon, and how an iridescent gem (and all ruin crafts for that matter) cannot be obtained in a world without caves. We can get gems from Dragonfly and thulecite from sunken treasure chests, but without a crafting station, nothing can be done with them. This would make this character super cool in general, although right now the encyclopedia is too cheap for this, which is why an upgraded version with more difficult craft would make more sense. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/142407-wow-is-this-intended/#findComment-1592299 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuernito. Posted August 6, 2022 Author Share Posted August 6, 2022 18 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said: I think it’s intended yes- as it is the “Everything” Encyclopedia- it would not make sense for it to only temporarily unlock crafting options. Also apparently if you read this book near other players it also unlocks crafting recipes for them as well however- I think you have a limited time frame in which you can craft after using this book, but the recipes you unlock remain permanently unlocked. it wouldn’t make sense to “temporarily” learn how to craft something- and it would make this book way too annoying/make other players way too demanding of Wicker to use it. Actually it would make more sense to be a temporarily effect, right now wicker doesnt need more than a scince machine, which is really strong during early game. And to be honest i just wanted to make post about a book that its not lunar gremoire :/. I do believe that everything encyclopedia is really strong for early game and i just wanted to talk about it. cx Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/142407-wow-is-this-intended/#findComment-1592301 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hornete Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 18 minutes ago, Lokena said: or an improved book of the second tier with a similar effect would be like Brain of Thought from Shipwreck Alright now THIS I absolutely need. Please Klei? :> Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/142407-wow-is-this-intended/#findComment-1592304 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lokena Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, Hornete said: Alright now THIS I absolutely need. Please Klei? :> Bonus points if both encyclopedias are the only books that retain their effect when read by any characters. These are encyclopedias. Books that exist to explain things. Basically, it would eliminate the need to constantly switch to Wicker just to create something in a world without caves. She's still a strong character without this, so it won't make her useless just because of the loss of the unique right to read one book that doesn't even have a "magic" effect. Plus, other characters may have a stronger loss of sanity from this and they will have to be careful with timely recharging of the book. And again, recipes are not remembered forever. If Klei doesn't do this, give this idea to some moder. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/142407-wow-is-this-intended/#findComment-1592305 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck986 Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 2 hours ago, NekoSoulx said: I discovered something funny. Idk if the people already know about this but this has to be one of the best things wickerbottom got during the rework. thats why im trying to know if this is intended or not. Are ya ready? Wicker can use everything encyclopedia to unlock tier 2 magic stuff, yep she just need a scince machine now :0. At first i thought that the recipes using the book were temporary but no, you actually unlock the recipe, so if you want for example mass farm dark swords during early game you just need to use everything encyclopedia one time :0. So yeah thats all, what do you think? of course it's intended, because combining of 2 pieces of egyptian paper and a stone block with a golden cap provides you a forbidden knowledge about everything humanity knows, same as IRL P.S.: Btw why I haven't seen "EVERYTHING ENCYCLOPEDIA IS OP plz nerf thx" rants during beta? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/142407-wow-is-this-intended/#findComment-1592309 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minespatch Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 35 minutes ago, Duck986 said: Btw why I haven't seen "EVERYTHING ENCYCLOPEDIA IS OP plz nerf thx" rants during beta? Lunar grimoire brought more reeeeing out of the forumites. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/142407-wow-is-this-intended/#findComment-1592322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dextops Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 40 minutes ago, Duck986 said: P.S.: Btw why I haven't seen "EVERYTHING ENCYCLOPEDIA IS OP plz nerf thx" rants during beta? don't tempt the fates Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/142407-wow-is-this-intended/#findComment-1592323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuernito. Posted August 6, 2022 Author Share Posted August 6, 2022 53 minutes ago, Duck986 said: of course it's intended, because combining of 2 pieces of egyptian paper and a stone block with a golden cap provides you a forbidden knowledge about everything humanity knows, same as IRL P.S.: Btw why I haven't seen "EVERYTHING ENCYCLOPEDIA IS OP plz nerf thx" rants during beta? well thats cause this game is divided in 3 parts, early game, mid game and late game. And of course something that is strong in early game is not as good as things that are strong in mid or late game. And btw thats the reason all people were talking about lunar book during beta, a book that is strong in mid to late game being so cheap lmao. Its actually funny, these books are the opposite of each other in a sense of utility, lunar gremoire is mediocre during early game but fairly strong in mid and late game while everything encyclopedia is really strong during early game but totally useless in mid and late game. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/142407-wow-is-this-intended/#findComment-1592328 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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