Owlrust Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 In light of recent Wurt changes I wanted to bring up the topic of Leafy Meat. Wigfrid and Wurt both share an exclusion to certain foods (meats to Wigfrid and veggies/fruits to Wurt) however Wigfrid is allotted certain privileges in what exceptions she can have in the form of both "Goodies" and Leafy Meat. Wurt doesn't have many exceptions herself aside from the increased benefits from fruits and veggies, but this could be attributed to the fact that there are far less beneficial fruit and veggie recipes by comparison. Despite all this, one thing I believe Wurt should share with Wigfrid is the consumption of Leafy Meat. Though Leafy Meat is considered a "meat" product in-game (as in, it will aggro bunnymen) there is still debate on whether it is more meat or vegetable even by Wurt and Wigfrid's quotes. Wurt - “Feel... confused...” Wigfrid - “I suppöse it's clöse enöugh.” Wormwood themself even states: “Meat from dirt” which implies it can be grown by plants or rather, the creatures can grow from the ground. We see carrats planted in the ground of the Lunar Island, so it makes sense there would be an ambiguity. Most of Wurt's quotes imply a general distrust in the meat even whereas Wigfrid's quotes can be boiled down to "good enough", so there is definitely confusion somewhere. Neither character is fully convinced about its identity so it would make sense if this were the exception for the both of them. The odd thing about Leafy Meat though is that the "meat" is both the organs of some mobs (Grass Gecko) and the expendable "bait" for a plant (Lureplant) which is an example of both needing to kill to acquire the meat, and not-needing to kill to acquire the meat. In short, Wigfrid got a lot of exceptions that don't entirely make sense, so my girl Wurt deserves at least one of her own. Besides, this change would open up a lot of possibilities as far as eating for Wurt players and feeding the Merm King goes. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139388-suggestion-let-wurt-eat-leafy-meat-too/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 Honestly I don't know how I'd feel about this change on one hand I honestly don't use leafy meat so I don't really think it'd personally matter much to me personally on the other hand I don't like the idea of Wurt having a meat exception.(I still don't really like the egg berry thing) Wigfrid cheating on her diet I feel can be excused as a character flaw a guilty pleasure if you will. For Wurt on the other hand it seems more like a biological thing. I do think we need new values on non meat crockpot dishes or new ones considering how useless a crockpot is for Wurt most of the time. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139388-suggestion-let-wurt-eat-leafy-meat-too/#findComment-1560270 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohan Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 Imo she doesnt need it. She already gets more from veg food which sort of undercuts her vegetarian diet downside from the jump and makes it less interesting/challenging. Adding leafy meat on top would further trivialize it i think. Instead of giving her leafy meat recipes i believe there is still a ton of room for more new crop and fruit dishes. There are many still that dont have their own dish like pomegranates and durians. Especially fruit dishes are severely underdeveloped and many of the veg dishes that we do have are not tuned with a vegetarian survivor in mind since they were made long before Wurt’s release. A big stuffed pumpkin recipe could be the veg equivalent of meaty stew for example. Instead of adding exceptions to wurt’s diet like wigfrid has id personally prefer for wigfrid’s exceptions to be removed since they make her carnivore diet less interesting. Especially now with jelly salad in the game theres no reason for wigfrid to still be able to eat taffy and ice cream etc. I dont really expect that to happen at this point but i just wouldnt want wurts downside to be further triviliazed as well. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139388-suggestion-let-wurt-eat-leafy-meat-too/#findComment-1560271 Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Variant Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 I believe Wurt is allowed to enjoy goodies too. If she can't, I'd be for it. I'm not sold on letting her eat leafy meat though, she's got alternatives and I think the less broad food selection is a fun challenge to put up with when playing her. As for the item itself? It's a meat item. It's meat, with a leafy texture. "Leafy" meat. A veggie version would be "Meaty leaf"! Leaf that's sorta meaty! Also letting her eat leafy meat would completely ruin the entire point of all the joke "veggie" meat items they added! It's funny not being able to eat the fake vegetarian food as the vegetarian! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139388-suggestion-let-wurt-eat-leafy-meat-too/#findComment-1560273 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masked Koopa Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 I think eggs should have their meat designation removed, personally. It removes the weirdness where puffed potato souffle is edible by wurt and not by wigfrid, or how eggs can be used as filler in non meat dishes. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139388-suggestion-let-wurt-eat-leafy-meat-too/#findComment-1560277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creatorofswamps Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Ohan said: Instead of giving her leafy meat recipes i believe there is still a ton of room for more new crop and fruit dishes. There are many still that dont have their own dish like pomegranates and durians. Especially fruit dishes are severely underdeveloped and many of the veg dishes that we do have are not tuned with a vegetarian survivor in mind since they were made long before Wurt’s release. A big stuffed pumpkin recipe could be the veg equivalent of meaty stew for example. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139388-suggestion-let-wurt-eat-leafy-meat-too/#findComment-1560290 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spino43 Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 I agree. Especially since Wigfrid can eat Leafy Green which has a 3 veg:1 meat(?) ratio. In all accounts she should have thrown it away the moment she saw it. It's made out of plant so Wurt should totally be able to eat it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139388-suggestion-let-wurt-eat-leafy-meat-too/#findComment-1560291 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamboyant wolf Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 i think more (good) recepies from crops would be great. like, imagine making garlic bread with corn (like corn flour) and garlic(like garlic). or pumpkin pie? sorta like dragon pie, but more hunger (120-150?) instead of 40 hp. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139388-suggestion-let-wurt-eat-leafy-meat-too/#findComment-1560293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notecja Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 I believe leafy meat and leafy foods are reverse vegan joke. Like we have wegan food pretending meat, which is totally plant and in game we have plant which is totally meat... and totally not-vegan. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139388-suggestion-let-wurt-eat-leafy-meat-too/#findComment-1560327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArubaroBeefalo Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 no pls diets downsides should be a downside, dont create another wigfrid which "only eats meat" but also candies, mushroom cake and tea... we have RWYS farms, her downside is already a joke and you can still using lureplants for eggs to mix in veggie and fruit recipes edit. and now that i think, if leafy meat plus their recipes count as veggies would take the hunger bonus... simply no, she doesnt need that at all. We already have to many characters with silly and not noticeable downsides tbh, wigfrid shouldnt be able to eat leafy meat neither as a joke of not being a mix of meat and veggie so neither character with diet restriction could eat that but i guess people need sanity food as wigfrid besides having her songs, passives and taffy... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139388-suggestion-let-wurt-eat-leafy-meat-too/#findComment-1560344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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