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3 minutes ago, sudoku said:

I didnt know there was a specific number of days we were comparing, forgive me this thread is full of looooooong replies. But i figured youre spending more time than just the actual act of planting, you are collecting the seeds off the ground, feeding your crops to your bird to farm more seeds, doing whatever it entails you to do to get a giant crop (i dont farm so i literally do not know).

But as @Ohan said the game will throw food at you, theres not really a reason to stockpile that amount of veggies unless you are doing like a farming only run or something.

So if saving time getting food is pointless because getting food is easy, WX doesn't overshadow Wormwood since they're both equally pointless characters as the entire game is easy.

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8 minutes ago, Cheggf said:

Are you telling me you're capable of going to your base, harvesting a stack of honey, and going back to where you used to be in less than 0.05 days? Because that's how fast you'd need to do that to compare to the efficiency of getting 6.5yrs of food in 4 days.

I really don't get where you guys got that number of 6.5 years of food for 4 days, yes it may take you 4 days to plant that number of seeds if the numbers are correct but calculate how long it would take you to gather the seeds and harvest after too.

Also honey is superior in every way, why stop at that number of 1 stack, when you can literally bundle stacks of it and carry it around, it is much easier as it only takes initial investment. 

The whole issue is that RWYS made his ability reduntant when others can maybe not be as fast as him, but they can still farm at insane speeds compared to before when you had to build farms.

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2 minutes ago, 00petar00 said:

The whole issue is that RWYS made his ability reduntant when others can maybe not be as fast as him, but they can still farm at insane speeds compared to before when you had to build farms

the issue was that pre rwys farm sucked that hard that the only way to get farm veggies was wormwood, now everybody can get them in a reasonable way (some combos are kinda very strong tho...) but wormwood still being waaaaaay better at farming for how much time he saves and it saves time because of not needing to use a hoe not because of autotendimg as other users try to say for some weird reason

and sure, beeboxes can give a lot of hunger but that doesn't dimiss that you can get food for years in a relatively easy and fast way, and even more as wormwood since doesn't need soil so can plant all the seeds that dont fit in prepared soils

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18 minutes ago, Cheggf said:

So if saving time getting food is pointless because getting food is easy, WX doesn't overshadow Wormwood since they're both equally pointless characters as the entire game is easy.

Yes, clearly thats what i meant. :roll:

In fact why do other methods of obtaining food from mobs or from exploration or any other ingame activity even exist when Wormwood can save so much time?

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6 minutes ago, ArubaroBeefalo said:

the issue was that pre rwys farm sucked that hard that the only way to get farm veggies was wormwood, now everybody can get them in a reasonable way (some combos are kinda very strong tho...) but wormwood still being waaaaaay better at farming for how much time he saves and it saves time because of not needing to use a hoe not because of autotendimg as other users try to say for some weird reason

and sure, beeboxes can give a lot of hunger but that doesn't dimiss that you can get food for years in a relatively easy and fast way, and even more as wormwood since doesn't need soil so can plant all the seeds that dont fit in prepared soils

The old farms were bad but that doesn't change the fact that RWYS update made Wormwood's ability less powerful. Its not even comparable how easy it is to start farming now considering how hard it was before.

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3 minutes ago, 00petar00 said:

The old farms were bad but that doesn't change the fact that RWYS update made Wormwood's ability less powerful. Its not even comparable how easy it is to start farming now considering how hard it was before.

yes but that was a farm problem and even there the only difference was the gap between non wormwood characters and woormwood. Even then wormwood didn't have a good time farming cuz how many veggies was needed to feed a bird to get enough seeds back

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4 minutes ago, ArubaroBeefalo said:

that doesn't dimiss that you can get food for years in a relatively easy and fast way,

Stockpiling years worth of pumpkins is a pointless argument in favor of wild planting. Wild planting is good because it saves time planting seeds. Its not good and “hidden op” because quartzbeam had the patience to cover an entire biome with pumpkin seeds. How long anyway did it take to get to that many seeds? Why is that not calculated in the 4 days = 6.5 years worth of pumpkins? 

unless ur going to take all those bundled pumpkins with u to fuelweaver arena where ur not bothered by anything in the game and slap a BQ crown on ur head while u sit next to a ruins pillar and just eat pumpkins while staring at ur screen for 6.5 years, stockpiling is completely pointless. 

When ur actually playing the game what are u gonna do with meat from bosses, hounds, goats, spiders, frog rain etc when u have ur stockpile of pumpkins? Ignore them and let it rot while pretending those days staring at harvesting animating wasnt a complete waste of time? 

nobody is saying wild planting is useless or bad. The point is that its no longer good enough to be a main perk. Nobody is arguing anything else when it comes to wild planting. 

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1 minute ago, Ohan said:

Stockpiling years worth of pumpkins is a pointless argument in favor of wild planting. Wild planting is good because it saves time planting seeds. Its not good and “hidden op” because quartzbeam had the patience to cover an entire biome with pumpkin seeds. How long anyway did it take to get to that many seeds? Why is that not calculated in the 4 days = 6.5 years worth of pumpkins? 

unless ur going to take all those bundled pumpkins with u to fuelweaver arena where ur not bothered by anything in the game and slap a BQ crown on ur head while u sit next to a ruins pillar and just eat pumpkins while staring at ur screen for 6.5 years, stockpiling is completely pointless. 

When ur actually playing the game what are u gonna do with meat from bosses, hounds, goats, spiders, frog rain etc when u have ur stockpile of pumpkins? Ignore them and let it rot while pretending those days staring at harvesting animating wasnt a complete waste of time? 

nobody is saying wild planting is useless or bad. The point is that its no longer good enough to be a main perk. Nobody is arguing anything else when it comes to wild planting. 

im not even talking about wild planting lmao

i was talking about farming vs beeboxes...

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