reallychina Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 Considering how difficult and time consuming they are to setup and how limited the surface area is, it would be nice to get full wetness protection, or at least full protection during light rains, while heavy rains could get you wet very, very slow. Wearing a celestial crown in spring is annoying because you keep getting wet even under trees. I also think they need a bigger radius. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138324-above-average-trees-to-grant-full-wetness-protection/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
goatt Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 Growing a Tree only takes 1 day of sailing (real effort) and 20 days of waiting. And multiple trees can be grown simultaneously. Comparing that to the time taken to prep for celestial crown or fuelweaver, that 1 day effort + 20 days waiting isn't worth full wetness resistance + full heat resistance + lightning resistance + wildfire resistance + free food from sky. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138324-above-average-trees-to-grant-full-wetness-protection/#findComment-1549043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
reallychina Posted March 16, 2022 Author Share Posted March 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, goatt said: Growing a Tree only takes 1 day of sailing (real effort) and 20 days of waiting. And multiple trees can be grown simultaneously. Comparing that to the time taken to prep for celestial crown or fuelweaver, that 1 day effort + 20 days waiting isn't worth full wetness resistance + full heat resistance + lightning resistance + wildfire resistance + free food from sky. You have to find the waterlogged biome, which is pure rng, get winch blueprint, sail around, get beefalo craft other boats to place the tree, save glommer goop and travel again to the biome at least 1 more time to at get figs for jams. it's a big pain to setup new trees should not be growing figs though. or should at max grow 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138324-above-average-trees-to-grant-full-wetness-protection/#findComment-1549045 Share on other sites More sharing options...
goatt Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 1 minute ago, reallychina said: You have to find the waterlogged biome, which is pure rng, get winch blueprint, sail around, get beefalo craft other boats to place the tree True, the first time is the hardest. But it's not really difficult, it's just time consuming. It involves no combative preparation. Most of the work is about walking, moving, sailing, and moving more. If this kinda timing consuming tasks should be heavily rewarded, rewards of farming should be improved first, cuz it requires tons of attention too and is more often engaged than tree nut hunting. What's more, you only need 1 beef, 1 winch bp, 1 time exploration of the ocean, the second time and beyond costs much much less time. So if you are a fig tree enthusiastic, it won't cost you too much time on average. Btw, in case you didn't know how to find the waterlogged biome, it's always next to the shallow sea which is next to the shore. I can reliably find it in at most 2 days. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138324-above-average-trees-to-grant-full-wetness-protection/#findComment-1549050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArubaroBeefalo Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 1 hour ago, reallychina said: new trees should not be growing figs though. or should at max grow 1 no lol Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138324-above-average-trees-to-grant-full-wetness-protection/#findComment-1549097 Share on other sites More sharing options...
reallychina Posted March 16, 2022 Author Share Posted March 16, 2022 45 minutes ago, ArubaroBeefalo said: no lol yes Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138324-above-average-trees-to-grant-full-wetness-protection/#findComment-1549122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArubaroBeefalo Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 41 minutes ago, reallychina said: yes so you say that plating giant trees takes time but also suggest that the planted trees shouldnt give figs? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138324-above-average-trees-to-grant-full-wetness-protection/#findComment-1549140 Share on other sites More sharing options...
reallychina Posted March 16, 2022 Author Share Posted March 16, 2022 8 minutes ago, ArubaroBeefalo said: so you say that plating giant trees takes time but also suggest that the planted trees shouldnt give figs? the purpose of the trees is to provide protection from elements, you're not planting trees to get food. that helps with making more jam, but for that purpose they could be only growing figs once or twice. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138324-above-average-trees-to-grant-full-wetness-protection/#findComment-1549144 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuroite Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 37 minutes ago, reallychina said: the purpose of the trees is to provide protection from elements, you're not planting trees to get food. And why not both exactly ?? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138324-above-average-trees-to-grant-full-wetness-protection/#findComment-1549156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArubaroBeefalo Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 42 minutes ago, reallychina said: the purpose of the trees is to provide protection from elements, you're not planting trees to get food. that helps with making more jam, but for that purpose they could be only growing figs once or twice. no, i plant trees for decoration and even if was for protection i prefer if they grow figs so the process can be accelerate. The opposite will be awful Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138324-above-average-trees-to-grant-full-wetness-protection/#findComment-1549159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
reallychina Posted March 16, 2022 Author Share Posted March 16, 2022 8 minutes ago, kuroite said: And why not both exactly ?? its too strong 2 minutes ago, ArubaroBeefalo said: no, i plant trees for decoration and even if was for protection i prefer if they grow figs so the process can be accelerate. The opposite will be awful which is why having them grow 3-4 figs only 4 times would be enough. Each tree will generate figs for the next. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138324-above-average-trees-to-grant-full-wetness-protection/#findComment-1549161 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowDuelist Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 If the trees don’t produce figs nobody will ever make the fig recipes, making them pointless. I’m okay with the trees giving full wetness protection ( I’m fine how they are anyway) but I’d say a big no to removing figs. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138324-above-average-trees-to-grant-full-wetness-protection/#findComment-1549163 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxil20 Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 11 minutes ago, reallychina said: its too strong I’m not going to say figs are completely terrible (because they do have some pretty unique crockpot recipes and are overall an okay food source on their own), but saying the trees giving food + wetness protection would be too strong when there are already many equal or better alternatives to being dry and staying fed is a bit of a stretch. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138324-above-average-trees-to-grant-full-wetness-protection/#findComment-1549166 Share on other sites More sharing options...
reallychina Posted March 16, 2022 Author Share Posted March 16, 2022 28 minutes ago, Maxil20 said: I’m not going to say figs are completely terrible (because they do have some pretty unique crockpot recipes and are overall an okay food source on their own), but saying the trees giving food + wetness protection would be too strong when there are already many equal or better alternatives to being dry and staying fed is a bit of a stretch. it's too strong considering they also provide many other strong perks such as smolder protection, lightning protection, overheat protection and half wetness protection Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138324-above-average-trees-to-grant-full-wetness-protection/#findComment-1549178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheggf Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 6 hours ago, reallychina said: Considering how difficult and time consuming they are to setup and how limited the surface area is, You try really hard at the start of this thread to sell how difficult it is to get the trees so it would be okay for them to make you immune to rain, but then immediately start saying that would be overpowered so the much more interesting thing they currently do should be removed instead. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138324-above-average-trees-to-grant-full-wetness-protection/#findComment-1549202 Share on other sites More sharing options...
reallychina Posted March 16, 2022 Author Share Posted March 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, Cheggf said: You try really hard at the start of this thread to sell how difficult it is to get the trees so it would be okay for them to make you immune to rain, but then immediately start saying that would be overpowered so the much more interesting thing they currently do should be removed instead. You're trying too hard to find contradictions where there are none. They are hard to setup. They are supposed to provide protection, not food. Providing food AND protection is too much. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138324-above-average-trees-to-grant-full-wetness-protection/#findComment-1549205 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-met Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 bro if you really hate those figs just torch them. The above average tree can't regrow burned vines. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138324-above-average-trees-to-grant-full-wetness-protection/#findComment-1549210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
reallychina Posted March 16, 2022 Author Share Posted March 16, 2022 38 minutes ago, Well-met said: bro if you really hate those figs just torch them. The above average tree can't regrow burned vines. i do burn them but that was not the point Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138324-above-average-trees-to-grant-full-wetness-protection/#findComment-1549221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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