Dear Klei, Thanks

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On 2/25/2022 at 8:16 AM, Milordo said:

Especially after some rumors and acts about the development behind Wolfgang and other.....

44 minutes ago, Milordo said:

That's what the company decided, probably to copy all the others generic AAA companies and already proved many of the team to be burned out by this (if the rumors are true)

what are the rumors you keep mentioning?

[Theukon-dos]

On 2/25/2022 at 9:49 PM, minespatch said:

The fans are too harsh on Klei. People need to be patient. Sure, we should voice our distaste but on a leveled manner and ways to improve instead of ad hominems.

While I do agree that people treat Klei to harshly, "Being Patient" if you're not satisified with content can only last so long. Turn of Tides was over 2 years ago, yet the ocean still exists almost entirely in a vacuum. And of all the character refreshes, they're pretty much a 50/50 shot on whether or not they're actually good.

Winona, Willow, Woodie, and Wolfgang all caused massive strife when they were released, and all but Wolfgang's still have a lot of the issues brought up way back when.

I don't think Klei's ruined the game by any sense of the word, all the content not tied to the ocean has been really good. But if a player's only had disappointment after disappointment for 2+ years, then I'd say they're fully within their rights to be frustrated. Not toxic, mind you. But definitely frustrated.

On 2/26/2022 at 4:14 PM, SmallBirdHungry said:

I see so many people complain and whine about eye of the storm but... Why? I don't see anything particularly bad about it. It added about as much content as one could ask for in one update. A new endgame boss, a massive event, and not to mention lots of lore for those who care about it. So if anyone can clue me into why so many people hate on that update it would be cool. Thanks.

Because, to be entirely honest, the content around Eye of the Storm is kind of... bad. I talked about it in my thread on ocean content, but Ocean content exists almost souly to improve interaction with the ocean. And on top of that, the content  directly tied to the eye of the storm is also pretty meh. Crab King is an incredibly difficulty boss, yet his only significant drops are the celestial tribute and a strident trident blueprint. Pearl's trades are only useful for fishing. And Celestial Champion itself only drops an upgraded tam 'o shanter.

 

Just compare the drops with Ancient Fuelweaver. A similarly tiered boss that's much easier to fight.

Celestial Champion: A ton of Moonglass and Moonrock, plus the celestial crown.

Ancient Fuelweaver: Bone armor, Bone helm, Thurible, and resets the ruins.

 

Celestial Champion does not have good loot. And on top of that, Eye of the Storm was supposed to be the "conclusion" for the RoT update chain. But then nothing really happened there? Wagstaff shows up to kidnap the Celestial Champion, but then that's really about it. We still have no idea who "Them" is supposed to be, or how they've returned. We don't know what Wagstaff or Charlie are planning, we don't have any answers for the plethora of questions introduced before RoT. Eye of the Storm felt more like a mid-season finale than a season finale, if that makes sense.

 

[minespatch]

32 minutes ago, Theukon-dos said:

Not toxic, mind you. But definitely frustrated.

That's understandable.

[Milordo]

10 hours ago, meow meow meow said:

what are the rumors you keep mentioning?

There were a lot of rumors that some developers from Klei are getting burnout from the costant "three months a new update" and many others about Wolfgang rework

8 hours ago, Theukon-dos said:

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An even better description of some of my feelings about it. Thanks @Theukon-dos 

[lowercase skye]

5 hours ago, Milordo said:

There were a lot of rumors that some developers from Klei are getting burnout from the costant "three months a new update" and many others about Wolfgang rework

were there?? i have literally only ever heard you mention it here and no one else anywhere else

[Dextops]

4 hours ago, meow meow meow said:

were there?? i have literally only ever heard you mention it here and no one else anywhere else

they were in the big wolfgang thread made by @SecretPizzaMan which i am having trouble finding

[SecretPizzaMan]

7 hours ago, meow meow meow said:

were there?? i have literally only ever heard you mention it here and no one else anywhere else

 

Here you go.

[Cassielu]

On 2/27/2022 at 7:14 AM, SmallBirdHungry said:

I see so many people complain and whine about eye of the storm but... Why? I don't see anything particularly bad about it. It added about as much content as one could ask for in one update. A new endgame boss, a massive event, and not to mention lots of lore for those who care about it. So if anyone can clue me into why so many people hate on that update it would be cool. Thanks.

Well, as a lore enthusiast, I have a complaint about this update for a reason similar to what Hornete says, that the whole Moonstrom is for CC combat. In other words, Alter itself hasn't been shaped or cared for enough, and our knowing to "Them" themself remains at the same level as it was four years ago, as if it's only waking up so we can beat it, rather than what it wants to wake up to do.

[Milordo]

8 hours ago, Cassielu said:

Well, as a lore enthusiast, I have a complaint about this update for a reason similar to what Hornete says, that the whole Moonstrom is for CC combat. In other words, Alter itself hasn't been shaped or cared for enough, and our knowing to "Them" themself remains at the same level as it was four years ago, as if it's only waking up so we can beat it, rather than what it wants to wake up to do.

Just imagine how cool in the lore and ambience of dst would have been if a lot of animals could been infected with the moon stuff and what other armies the moon could have unleashed to the Costant for conquering or/and terraforming. A man can only dream.....