voidfoo Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 Is it okay to store everything on a single tile? I remember reading somewhere that there is/was a deletion bug if you did that... is that true? Example, I have a conveyor chute just dump everything I sweep on one tile. Maybe after many cycles, something like half the entire asteroid gets stored there. Aside from lag when mousing over the pile (I'm guessing), will anything get deleted or is that fine? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurgel Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 I have been wondering that myself. If there is a limit, it is very high tough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilesLong4200 Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 I think doing this is generally recommended for performance reasons. Having it all on one tile lowers the calculations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuyPerfect Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 Debris of the same resource that falls close enough to an existing stack will automatically combine. As far as I know, this won't delete any resources, but I could be wrong. I personally just stick a Storage Bin somewhere, set it to Sweep Only then empty it out by de-selecting All in its settings. This does a pretty good job of consolidating all my solid resources into distinct stacks. Plus, I don't need like five hundred Storage Bins to hold it all. An exception to this is Canister Filler, which does not stack when it drops a new can on the floor. The only way to sweep these up is to use a Canister Emptier, which also makes it harder to put all the bottles in the same place. In response to this inconvenience, I developed the following contraption: This uses a Manual Airlock, which Duplicants will stand in front of while attempting to carry resources through it. A Duplicant Motion Sensor sees them standing there and closes the Pneumatic Door on the other side, which fully blocks off their route to the Canister Emptier and forces them to cancel their task, which in turn causes them to drop the can they were carrying right there on the floor. The Wattage Sensor there on the left is just what I like to use for "god activated automation", where I myself decide when things happen. It closes the Mechanized Airlock directly under the Duplicant Motion Sensor. Since there's a closed door on both sides of the gas canisters, the only direction it can shove the resources is up. I discovered by accident that when this happens, all gas canisters of the same resource are stacked together. Otherwise, canisters max out at 25 Kg each. This particular design falls victim to a quirky behavior with Duplicant sweeping logic: if the resource they intend to sweep happens to be sitting there in a stack not marked as Sweep Only, they may nonetheless pick it up and immediately attempt to deliver it to the Canister Emptier. There's room for improvement here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinhPham Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 When we started the game, i'm pretty sure we can build storage bin on day 1, without any tech/research .... it's amazing that we spent 1000 years developing the colony without any improvement to the storage technology Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasza22 Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 9 hours ago, Gurgel said: If there is a limit, it is very high tough. I remember reading somewhere that the limit is 20000 tons but that might be the limit for a single debris chunk after which a new chunk is created. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DolphinWing Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 5 hours ago, GuyPerfect said: The only way to sweep these up is to use a Canister Emptier, which also makes it harder to put all the bottles in the same place. In response to this inconvenience, I developed the following contraption: If you have space, what not build the Canister Filler vertically and use gravity to drop all bottles to the same place? But I guess that may look ugly. 3 hours ago, Sasza22 said: I remember reading somewhere that the limit is 20000 tons but that might be the limit for a single debris chunk after which a new chunk is created. Not sure if that is made by mod but I found my resources are max 25 tons per debris. I'm using Better Info Cards. But anything stacks up to 20000 tons is a huge number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurgel Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 3 hours ago, Sasza22 said: I remember reading somewhere that the limit is 20000 tons but that might be the limit for a single debris chunk after which a new chunk is created. Probably not, because wood, for example, goes into 100t debris chunks and refined metal seems to go into 25t ones. Maybe there is a limit as to how many chunks of debris you can have in a cell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuyPerfect Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 12 hours ago, DolphinWing said: If you have space, what not build the Canister Filler vertically and use gravity to drop all bottles to the same place? I'm considering that, because the Duplicants are hell-bent on picking up the bottles even when the Canister Emptier is set to Sweep Only. Normally my architectural design involves uniform cells of 12 tiles wide and 3 squares of clearance, but drastic needs call for drastic measures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omdev Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 On 2/15/2022 at 11:17 PM, GuyPerfect said: I personally just stick a Storage Bin somewhere, set it to Sweep Only then empty it out by de-selecting All in its settings. Hi, you can also use the automatic dispenser without power - then you don't have to manually empty it: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro_L Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 On 3/29/2022 at 3:55 AM, Omdev said: Hi, you can also use the automatic dispenser without power - then you don't have to manually empty it: It works without power? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OxCD Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 15 hours ago, Pedro_L said: It works without power? Power is only used for holding stuff until it's automated for delivery. So yes, it never needed any power to just drop off materials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Mandor Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 14 hours ago, Pedro_L said: It works without power? It doesn't. And this is exactly what we need. It cannot hold anything and just drops out everything putted in it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omdev Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 19 hours ago, Pedro_L said: It works without power? Yep 14 hours ago, OxCD said: Power is only used for holding stuff until it's automated for delivery. So yes, it never needed any power to just drop off materials Exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro_L Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 On 3/30/2022 at 1:48 PM, Pedro_L said: It works without power? 16 hours ago, Prince Mandor said: It doesn't. And this is exactly what we need. It cannot hold anything and just drops out everything putted in it 10 hours ago, Omdev said: Yep Exactly Damm this changed my life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DolphinWing Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 7 hours ago, Pedro_L said: Damm this changed my life It's never too late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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