Saturnus Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Some long-time members may fondly remember contraptions like the Borg Cube, the Chill Pill, or other near-infinite heat deleters of the past. To those and others that like mysterious exploits, rejoice as the Borgs have returned! I hereby proudly present the Borg Cube 2.022 It's based on two exploits combined into an unholy alliance. The well-known pulsed AT exploit as described here and the newly discovered pulsed fridge cooler as described here Before describing it in detail I'd like to send a sincere thank you to all those on the unofficial discord channel that in any way helped or inspired the build. Fearing I might leave out people I'd mention at least @amumu, @Fradow and @ghkbrew in particular. Ping me on discord if you feel others should be mentioned here. I do not read PMs or get notifications from this forum due to issues with harassment that the moderators and admins here are incapable of handling or unwilling to address. What it does is run an AT water/polluted water loop at 100% uptime using 360W and cooled only by the content of the two fridges using another 120W (480W total on average). It is built using an absolute minimum of resources. Each fridge contains 6 different items of 1kg each. The cooling of the fridges scales with the number of different items. I've used 6 because that's what you can easily get. They are: nutrient bars, muckroot, immuno boosters, vitamin chews, curative tablets, and either hexavalent fruits on a forest start map or allergy medication on a regular start map because hexavalent fruits aren't available on regular start maps and blossom seeds for allergy medication aren't readily available on forest start maps. There's no need for temp shift plates. Only 2kg/tile crude oil or petroleum on the floor is absolutely required (8kg of either total) and minimum 50kg/tile steam everywhere else (750kg water total). Automation is fairly simple There's the liquid loop sensor pulsing the AT (see link above) at the top. And then the fridges are on a 2s on, 2s off cycle but out of sync. And with the added feature that only the right one pulses on if temp is below 250C since if you're not running the AT 100% of the time there's no need for the full cooling potential of both fridges. . Other the that there's not much to say. Pretty standard set up otherwise. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/136779-return-of-the-borg/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fradow Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 I bet some people are lost on what the goal of the build is. In a nutshell, the purpose is to show how broken the fridge currently is when you exploit the fact that its content are not insulated when it's unpowered. A minimal viable build of it is that: A fridge with 1kg of each non-perishable item you can get. A timer sensor to alternate powered/unpowered (you can fiddle with the settings according to the temperature) coupled to a power shut-off. Any liquid to transfer heat to something you want cooled. The 3 most important things that determine how efficiently it cools: How many different items are in the fridge. More different items = more cooling. Adding more of the same item (they stack on the same line) doesn't work. The liquid temperature. Higher temperature means more cooling. The limit is the 275°C overheat temperature using Ceramic. The timer sensor settings, but that depends on the temperature. It's a LOT less important than the 2 previous ones In practice, cooling above 125°C with that is not super attractive, because a ST can be used to generate power rather than use power. This means great usages are under that. A particularly interesting temperature is around 95°C: that allows condensing Steam from a CSV at a much higher efficiency than any condensing setup (though Steamer setups are still better as they can be power-positive), and with a much smaller build that allows cooling Steam Turbines using less power than an Aquatuner. I'm sure there are other use cases where this exploit could be used. If you don't care about power but do care about space efficiency, it's an amazing contender for low to medium cooling requirements. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/136779-return-of-the-borg/#findComment-1531196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteWind36 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 I think it is amazing possibility to actually delete the heat, instead of moving it, until plastic and Steam turbines... And I hope it will not get fixed too quickly, because it would be nice to have some time to play with this knowledge of refrigerator thermo nullifier - RTN. It would be a live saviour in spaced out maps in early game. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/136779-return-of-the-borg/#findComment-1531209 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yobbo Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 This reminds me of that time when i was 7 years old and it was a really hot Summer, and i left the fridge door open because i wanted to cool the house down. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/136779-return-of-the-borg/#findComment-1531215 Share on other sites More sharing options...
biopon Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Nice find, congrats! Does pulsing the AT change its heat output in any way, or does that only affect the power consumed? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/136779-return-of-the-borg/#findComment-1531231 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted January 7, 2022 Author Share Posted January 7, 2022 42 minutes ago, biopon said: Nice find, congrats! Does pulsing the AT change its heat output in any way, or does that only affect the power consumed? Only the pwer consumption. Nothing else. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/136779-return-of-the-borg/#findComment-1531236 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zach123b Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 so in simple terms, this box deletes 585k dtu/s of heat while costing 480w on average? one exploit to reduce power/watts usage by the aquatuner which makes it cost about 360w. then the second exploit to delete the heat with the fridges. according to the link on fridge heat deletion, they delete 257kdtu/s per fridge at 270c or 93kdtu/s at 95c. does your box overheat at all or is it keeping up with a 2 fridges to 1 at setup? 60w for upto 250kdtu/s would be quite good but that's if it's cooling 270c. at that temperature range, a steam turbine is better suited (unless space is limited). but at 95c, it deletes 93kdtu/s, according to the link as temperature drops, so does efficiency. so range of application should be 70-125c. so imo, ethanol, csv, and steam turbines stand out. steam turbines should output around 90kdtu/s at most so one fridge per steam turbine would probably work great and make a few setups much more simple or for kicks and giggles, someone could make a sour gas boiler with a couple of these and some smart thinking Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/136779-return-of-the-borg/#findComment-1531266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
biopon Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 18 hours ago, zach123b said: or for kicks and giggles, someone could make a sour gas boiler with a couple of these and some smart thinking It might be useful for a pre-space setup, but only in a narrow temperature band - your input oil should get the gas down to 90-100 °C. If fridges help from then on, cool, you need fewer thermoregulators, but I'd guess they can't make too much of an impact? Not sure. I really like this fridge exploit. It gives all your leftover muckroot purpose. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/136779-return-of-the-borg/#findComment-1531360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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