How do console players deal with this?

[sudoku]

6 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said:

You guys don’t seem to understand why I’m asking if PC players can just drag and drop fuel over a firepit without needing to be right beside it.. so let me show you with a Gameclip.

i need to run around in circles around this small pit of fire from enemies (in The clip it’s a scorpion, in DST it would be restless spiders, hounds, etc..) I need to find time between my campfire light getting more dim and NOT being attacked by the enemy.. to get close to the fire and refuel it.

IF PC can just drag and drop… I hope we NEVER get cross-Play, because you guys are playing a drastically different game then we are.

Edit: thanks for the clarity on needing to get close to firepit, that would had been very unfair.

I mean you need to be close to it to do the action, but starting the action can be from any range. You could be on one end of the screen and the firepit on the other. You click the log in your inventory then click the firepit and your character automatically will run to the firepit and complete the action.

[Ardcrumb]

This thread is just a reminder of how much of an absolute legend Mike is tbh

[Cloakingsumo198]

I wish I could select different targets without it mattering about which way I'm facing and how far I am from said object, I wish I could follow characters, I wish I could move my throw indicator, I wish I could change the zoom in and out. So many wishes and I've barely started playing console edition

[Mike23Ua]

8 minutes ago, sudoku said:

I mean you need to be close to it to do the action, but starting the action can be from any range. You could be on one end of the screen and the firepit on the other. You click the log in your inventory then click the firepit and your character automatically will run to the firepit and complete the action.

That doesn’t actually make me feel any better.. kinda feel like Cross-Play between PC & Console shouldn’t even be a thing unless PC needs to use console controller or Console version was updated for KB & Mouse: Although legally I don’t think Klei can sale a game without KB+ Mouse support and then later decide to add KB+Mouse Support and then design content around KB+Mouse support drag and drop features.

I think in this situation the best they could do is add a built in drag and drop mouse like simulation: maybe by holding in the Inspect button for like 10 seconds pulls it up and double tapping it twice cancels it out so you can respond to on screen actions faster.

Idk.. anyways: I think the game performs better on PS5/Series X/S I know loading times & lagging are less of an issue.

Ps4 & Xbox One we’re soooo very slow.

[sudoku]

4 minutes ago, Cloakingsumo198 said:

I wish I could select different targets without it mattering about which way I'm facing and how far I am from said object, I wish I could follow characters, I wish I could move my throw indicator, I wish I could change the zoom in and out. So many wishes and I've barely started playing console edition

The thing that is killing me the most and could be fixed is the damn range for your actions. Seriously i have to be right up a grass tufts butt to get the option to harvest it. Whereas on pc you can be much farther away from something in order to interact with it when you hold down spacebar

[Mike23Ua]

8 minutes ago, Cloakingsumo198 said:

I wish I could select different targets without it mattering about which way I'm facing and how far I am from said object, I wish I could follow characters, I wish I could move my throw indicator, I wish I could change the zoom in and out. So many wishes and I've barely started playing console edition

in all seriousness: I still love the game though, it’s my favorite game to play in my entire Xbox collection.

[sudoku]

Still sucks i cant use any of the dlc characters or skins i have unlocked over 5 years. Heck my PC account has 15000 spool just sitting there.

[Cloakingsumo198]

The players...... It's just like on PC. Good, bad, mostly noobs, sometimes griefers, real quiet cause chat isn't readily available to everyone via keyboard, but I can't tell yet if I'm either going crazy or the game has proximity chat I hear what sounds like voices, and throat sounds.

[Mike23Ua]

1 minute ago, Cloakingsumo198 said:

The players...... It's just like on PC. Good, bad, mostly noobs, sometimes griefers, real quiet cause chat isn't readily available to everyone via keyboard, but I can't tell yet if I'm either going crazy or the game has proximity chat I hear what sounds like voices, and throat sounds.

It’s not proximity chat.. haha it’s headset chat, console version has built in Headset chat: you can talk to anyone in the game world, it’s annoying too I want a mute all button so I don’t have to hear them at times.

[Dr. Safety]

The game was definitely made for keyboard & mouse, and it certainly is a severe disadvantage to play with anything different. Props to Klei for even attempting the port in the first place. TBH as far as controls go, I can't really think of a better way when using a controller. Input lag is one thing, but I don't even know if that is on Klei's end. The controls, as AWFUL as they seem to be, look to be the best that they could do with a game like DST.

[Mike23Ua]

19 minutes ago, sudoku said:

Still sucks i cant use any of the dlc characters or skins i have unlocked over 5 years. Heck my PC account has 15000 spool just sitting there.

Unfortunate, but I need you to truly feel a console players pain… try summoning or returning Abigail to her flower when in close proximity to another player, try adding fuel to a campfire if another player is near you.

no wait try dying with a fire staff in your hand slot and then rushing to pick back up your loot before another player picks it all up.. before you just WATCH what happens.

Try doing anything on a boat that’s fully decked out with all the necessary boating structures (anchor, wheel, mast, fishing bin, pinching winch, tackle box never mind Crockpot, Salt Box or Campfire) see if you don’t end up interacting with something else instead.

Try to use an OAR to Row your Boat anywhere near the Plank..

Sometimes it feels like an “uncompromising” mini-game just to keep from extending the plank and trying to jump off.

[sudoku]

15 minutes ago, Cloakingsumo198 said:

The players...... It's just like on PC. Good, bad, mostly noobs, sometimes griefers, real quiet cause chat isn't readily available to everyone via keyboard, but I can't tell yet if I'm either going crazy or the game has proximity chat I hear what sounds like voices, and throat sounds.

Funnily enough the first server i joined was a dedicated one on day 7 and the starting area was picked clean and a Webber who was nearby without prompting or anything ran over to me and dropped 2 flint. Ive never had that happen on PC lol. 

I dedided to go with the playstation version rather than waiting for the switch one becauase it was on sale but also cause @Mike23Ua said in another post it had dedicated servers and they have had a decent amount of chatting so far

[Mysterious box]

1 hour ago, Cloakingsumo198 said:

I miss pressing 1-9 to use items in my inventory or to switch tools. Now all my gear is on my right side instead of the left for easy access to my gear slots. Also picking up items on the floor, or harvesting without looking at the game is a pain as well, any type of selecting in this game is pain trying to select a target, select items, select stuff off the floor, oh lord

Mike i misjudged you, I took you for a fool with iron will but now I understand you're just a console player veteran.for that I'm sorry, you only kept the best interest of these players in mind.

This thread is Mike's swan song

[Ardcrumb]

I've easily killed all of the bosses on pc except some of the more recent ones, but console the most I can do is deerclops and moosegoose

[sudoku]

Ive been playing Walter and does anyone know how you attack with Woby? I am pressing the attack button but Woby either does nothing or run cancels in whichever direction im facing.

[Ardcrumb]

Just now, sudoku said:

Ive been playing Walter and does anyone know how you attack with Woby? I am pressing the attack button but Woby either does nothing or run cancels in whichever direction im facing.

Ride her and hold the attack button when near an enemy, same with riding a beef, and when I say near I mean near

[sudoku]

2 minutes ago, Ardcrumb said:

Ride her and hold the attack button when near an enemy, same with riding a beef, and when I say near I mean near

I just cant get her to do it. Im on top of the enemy, no attack prompt is present and holding the button regardless just makes her movement jitter.

[Ardcrumb]

1 minute ago, sudoku said:

I just cant get her to do it. Im on top of the enemy, no attack prompt is present and holding the button regardless just makes her movement jitter.

That's odd, might be a bug

[sudoku]

6 minutes ago, Ardcrumb said:

That's odd, might be a bug

 

[Mike23Ua]

Wolfgang’s dumbells need to be scrolled through your inventory, and press Right on Dpad to Equip.. and then you need to scroll all the way to your Hand Slot and Press Left on the D-pad to “Lift” 

… Left is unbound to anything when selecting them the first time and only gets the “Lift” prompt when put in “Equip”

Why.. just Why?!?! Should be as simple as press Right to Equip and not lift or Left to Equip and start lifting..

Why all the additional time fumbling through scrolling inventory menus (which by the way you can’t move while doing)

7 minutes ago, sudoku said:

 

Woby can’t attack anything she’s not a combat Mount, you can only use a Slingshot while on with Walter.. Woby just runs away and bucks you off cowering with her paws over her ears when near danger (or she’s supposed to anyway)

To use the Slingshot while on Woby you need to target the enemy and click in the L3 or R3 on analog stick to target lock your enemy first.. 

(you’ll need to cancel this target lock or you won’t be able to perform many game actions until you do- I found this out the hard way when I target locked a butterfly and forgot to untarget it once..)

Its been patched now so that if you move far enough away off screen it cancels the lock itself but in the old days: you’d permanently be targeting that butterfly until it Despawn’s.

[sudoku]

7 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said:

Woby can’t attack anything she’s not a combat Mount, you can only use a Slingshot while on Walter.. Woby just runs away and bucks you off cowering with her paws over her ears (or she’s supposed to anyway)

Nah she can totally headbutt enemies. I did it before on PC loads of times and i have even done it once today on PS4 but my lag compensation was on so i was not hitting anything. Ive since turned it off and havent been able to get her to attack since

[Dunk Mujunk]

Ahhh yes, feel the pain lol. 

Im used to the controls, but the lag comp is crap both ways. My wife plays with it off (I think) and I have no idea how she does it. I'll be a bit dramatic and say the input delay almost makes me physically ill. I play with it on (I think? I may have it mixed up) and while my character reacts exactly when I tell them to, yeah a large amount of my hits miss, enough to make fighting largely unrealistic unless I'm absolutely over prepared. Plus Gather times being randomly increased, that's always fun.

The "if you aren't straight kiting everything in game you are cheesing/glitching" topic always makes me laugh.

On the plus side, the rare occasions I do venture back into DS make me feel like an unstoppable god. The controls are so crisp, so clean. It feels really good.

[GelatinousCube]

Mike isn't the only console player you know.. there are a bunch of us. 

Also sounds like he's on current gen console I'm still on ps4 so more loading times/lag. Where's all my "He's a hero" etc etc 

[Hornete]

11 minutes ago, sudoku said:

I did it before on PC loads of times

It was a day one release bug when Walter was added, it was shortly fixed.

11 minutes ago, sudoku said:

i have even done it once today on PS4 but my lag compensation was on so i was not hitting anything. Ive since turned it off and havent been able to get her to attack since

Wait wut?

[Astraia]

I think it's kind of fine, but it kind of bothers me

YUHHHH Console players deal with this dumb stuff, and it sucks

I am a console player myself and I too suffer from this