sheaker Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Dear All, I am having a lot of troubles to force my duplicants to fill coal generator with coal. Priority is 7-9, threshold is 50-70%. Duplicants just doesn't see it as errand. Even when I closed all of my duplicants into coal generator room with source they refill it only after generator ran out of coal, event not immediately. I am generating radbolts and any power interruption is expensive as hell. Why is that? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/134696-why-is-it-so-hard-to-refill-coal-generator/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dovahkick Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Are your coal generators linked to automation wires? I believe duplicants won't be given the task to deliver coal to the generators as long as they are deactivated, that's what I'm guessing at least from experience. If you have access to solid transport technology, I suggest making an Auto-Sweeper next to them with a Receptacle linked to a source of coal (whether it's a storage or a Hatch Stable). Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/134696-why-is-it-so-hard-to-refill-coal-generator/#findComment-1506922 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sakura_sk Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 45 minutes ago, sheaker said: Priority is 7-9, threshold is 50-70% Threshold of smart battery? Then generator's threshold should be above that (I usually put it at 100%) so it is refilled the moment automation allows it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/134696-why-is-it-so-hard-to-refill-coal-generator/#findComment-1506936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheaker Posted October 23, 2021 Author Share Posted October 23, 2021 I have my generator connected via automation wire to nearest smart battery. It seems to be similar to what You said, however, I am sure generator was activated at the time of the tests and troubles. Just from now: I will try to use autosweepers. I still think this is not working correctly. Thanks! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/134696-why-is-it-so-hard-to-refill-coal-generator/#findComment-1506938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewWorldDan Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 I set the fuel request threshold to 100%. And I set my smart batteries to shut off at 95%. If I understand it correctly, it only requests fuel when the fuel level is less than half AND the battery level is below the fuel request threshold. And I keep a storage bin of coal by the generator. And if I have the technology, I use an autosweeper to fill it from the bin. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/134696-why-is-it-so-hard-to-refill-coal-generator/#findComment-1506943 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheaker Posted October 23, 2021 Author Share Posted October 23, 2021 I kinda feel like at the very beginning I didn't had this problem. Maybe it started once I gave all of my duplicants Improved Carrying 1 skill. And I feel like they are waiting till generator is out of fuel because otherwise they would not use their full carrying capacity. Can this be true? I have settings similar to Yours, @NewWorldDan. It is not working. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/134696-why-is-it-so-hard-to-refill-coal-generator/#findComment-1506947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasza22 Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 The logic of that generator is to only request fuel when batteries fall below the set charge threshold. It`s meant to save fuel by not delivering it when it`s not needed to charge batteries. It`s a behaviour from before automation was introduced. When set to 100% dupes should always deliver the coal. It won`t hurt either when you got smart batteries to turn the generator off. The delivery problem usually starts later in the game when dupes have a longer travel path and coal is further away. I usually get a storage bin next to the generator to help with that. Later you can get an auto sweeper to load the generator. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/134696-why-is-it-so-hard-to-refill-coal-generator/#findComment-1506975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yobbo Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 11 hours ago, sheaker said: And I feel like they are waiting till generator is out of fuel because otherwise they would not use their full carrying capacity Sadly they don't do this. I know because i tried to mod it in. It was a mess. I gave up. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/134696-why-is-it-so-hard-to-refill-coal-generator/#findComment-1507043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilesLong4200 Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 The issue is that coal gen only requests coal when it's below threshold AND running. Your dupes aren't able to get to it and fill it up before they turn off (because battery is full). Just gotta use the auto sweeps. I have all of my coal from ranches dump onto one tile that can be reached by sweeper (and sweeper can reach 4 coal gens). Never had any issues. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/134696-why-is-it-so-hard-to-refill-coal-generator/#findComment-1507362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
psusi Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 Yea, always set the stupid slider to 100%. I really wish they would rework or just remove that thing. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/134696-why-is-it-so-hard-to-refill-coal-generator/#findComment-1507451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orzelek Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 It would help if those could be refilled when disabled by automation. Right now even sweeper sits nicely above them until they get enabled and then starts adding coal. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/134696-why-is-it-so-hard-to-refill-coal-generator/#findComment-1507453 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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