Pyrex042 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 With the power of Petroleum rockets, I was finally able to reach the magma asteroid and drop the first Rover to build a Platform (yes, I'm aware I need to send a 2nd rover to get enough materials). When I got there, I was surprised to see that the solid footholds are only 17 tiles from the unbuildable region, so by the time I build a Platform, the tallest rocket I could land would be 15 tiles high. Are other people seeing similar heights? The one thing I would expect to find in space is, well, space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hokaeru Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 Hello, You can build rockets outside of the space biome, but you will have gases spreading around. Perhaps the smaller space is due to smaller maps, but it will be sorted out I guess, it is talked about in patch notes. Hope it helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrex042 Posted February 8, 2021 Author Share Posted February 8, 2021 Yeah, I get that; I've got a deeper silo on my 'home' asteroid. However, doing that on the niobium asteroid it a little more challenging when I can't land the rocket I built to get there. I can't mine a silo until I land dupes, and my Petroleum rocket is way too tall to land there. Not being able to land the longer-range rocket means I need to go back to the 'mulitple one-way rockets' shenanigans after I drop a 2nd rover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hokaeru Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 I think the "outer planets" (magma, ice and the tungsten) are not totally done yet, there is not all endgame goals. It should be fair to assume it will be less messy to colonize the magma planet in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurgel Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 Klei also said that they are thinking about making most or all planetoids capable of being self-sufficient. Clearly some are not done at all at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zach123b Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 originally they had the outer 3 asteroids farther out. so much that we couldn't reach them with only the co2/sucrose engines so they changed worldgen around christmas time to make it so we could reach them. now that we got the larger rocketry, i assume we will likely soon the outer 3 asteroids to go back to generating farther away from the main asteroid again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lunazone Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 I think they're waiting to get the rocketry system realized and all the systems in before they introduce more late game stuff like geyser balance and more planetoids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babba Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 On 2/8/2021 at 5:29 PM, Pyrex042 said: When I got there, I was surprised to see that the solid footholds are only 17 tiles from the unbuildable region, so by the time I build a Platform, the tallest rocket I could land would be 15 tiles high. World Generation Settings + being able to play on big maps ( like in the base game ) is my most wanted implementation from the base game in to the DLC...It will get me back playing the game. The DLC needs a BASE GAME DLC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MachineryMan Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 On 2/8/2021 at 10:48 PM, Pyrex042 said: Not being able to land the longer-range rocket means I need to go back to the 'mulitple one-way rockets' shenanigans after I drop a 2nd rover. I agree with the suggestion to lengthen the space biome, but you can still drop off a solo operative, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hegemontree Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 “Space is short. You just won't believe how tinyly, minusculely, mind-bogglingly short it is. I mean, you may think it's a short way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisPBacon000 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 On 2/8/2021 at 9:29 AM, Pyrex042 said: With the power of Petroleum rockets, I was finally able to reach the magma asteroid and drop the first Rover to build a Platform (yes, I'm aware I need to send a 2nd rover to get enough materials). When I got there, I was surprised to see that the solid footholds are only 17 tiles from the unbuildable region, so by the time I build a Platform, the tallest rocket I could land would be 15 tiles high. Are other people seeing similar heights? The one thing I would expect to find in space is, well, space. I found the same to be true when I got to the magma planet yesterday. Had a rocket with 3 rover modules ready to deploy to set up a forward base, only to discover that everything is obsidian so Rovers can't dig, and the magma was only 20 tiles from the edge of space. Question @Pyrex042, how did you plan on building a rocket platform with rovers? It seems that you wouldn't have the necessary refined metal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrex042 Posted February 16, 2021 Author Share Posted February 16, 2021 @ChrisPBacon000 I've been having bugs with the Orbital Cargo pods not working correctly, so I needed a different way to get 800kg of refined metal down to the surface before dropping a Trailblazer. The rovers have exactly one job: deconstruct their own lander for 400kg of refined metal each. After the 2nd rover deconstructs his lander, 800kg of Steel are sitting on the surface awaiting a dupe to build the Platform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisPBacon000 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 56 minutes ago, Pyrex042 said: @ChrisPBacon000 I've been having bugs with the Orbital Cargo pods not working correctly, so I needed a different way to get 800kg of refined metal down to the surface before dropping a Trailblazer. The rovers have exactly one job: deconstruct their own lander for 400kg of refined metal each. After the 2nd rover deconstructs his lander, 800kg of Steel are sitting on the surface awaiting a dupe to build the Platform. Oh so you use steel to build the rover modules? I just figured I'd fly out with two trial blazers and a living quarters module, drop the two trail Blazers and deconstruct them to bud the pad. But the short space height limits me from doing that and still being able to land the rocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrex042 Posted February 16, 2021 Author Share Posted February 16, 2021 Yeah, as long as you use the same refined metal for both rovers (doesn't need to be Steel, but I used Steel because I have plenty) you'll have enough metal to build the platform. Keep in mind you can't do this with two Trailblazers anymore. Trailblazers only deconstruct into 200kg of refined metal, but the Rocket Platform now requires 800kg, which is why I sent two rovers ahead of the Trailblazer+Hab rockets. I haven't gone back to do it just yet though as I need to build a short enough hab-module rocket first... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sakura_sk Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 39 minutes ago, Pyrex042 said: Yeah, as long as you use the same refined metal for both rovers (doesn't need to be Steel, but I used Steel because I have plenty) you'll have enough metal to build the platform. You can only use steel (other refined metals for rovers are niobium and thermium...) :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrex042 Posted February 16, 2021 Author Share Posted February 16, 2021 @sakura_sk Did that change in a recent update? I'm pretty sure when I sent Rovers to the forest asteroid I was building them out of Cobalt and Copper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sakura_sk Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 @Pyrex042 I'm pretty sure it was metal ore and not refined metal. I specifically used 2 trailblazers in order to land and build a platform in magma planet a while back. I haven't checked what you mentioned about the 200kg per trailblazer in the latest update though.... Spoiler Last save file of this base 14 January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrex042 Posted February 16, 2021 Author Share Posted February 16, 2021 @sakura_sk Ah, yeah, that makes sense. Like most buildings that can be built out of metal ore, they can also use Steel... IIRC, Trailblazers have always deconstructed into 200kg of material. The change is that the Platform used to only cost 400kg of refined metal, but when Petroleum engines were added the cost for the Platform went up to 800kg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sakura_sk Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 10 minutes ago, Pyrex042 said: The change is that the Platform used to only cost 400kg of refined metal, but when Petroleum engines were added the cost for the Platform went up to 800kg. I don't think it's like that.. but I have to check my previous save files. Trailblazer though (still) needs 600kg refined metal. 200kg for trailblazer module and 400kg for trailblazer lander. Trailblazer lander (still) deconstructs, giving 400kg of refined metal back. So... I don't think anything changed since they introduced them in game after launch of DLC. I don't remember if it was different before that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisPBacon000 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 I can confirm two trial blazers can be deconstructed to make a rocket platform. But also be careful to add ladders so the door to the habitat can be accessed. Learned that the hard way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrex042 Posted February 16, 2021 Author Share Posted February 16, 2021 It may be that that change is on the test branch still, I thought it came over on the update with Petroleum rockets. (I'm not on the test branch, but a youtuber on the test branch was commenting about being being blindsided by that change) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sakura_sk Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, Pyrex042 said: (I'm not on the test branch, but a youtuber on the test branch was commenting about being being blindsided by that change) link? I'm on the test branch and didn't notice any such changes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrex042 Posted February 16, 2021 Author Share Posted February 16, 2021 @sakura_sk A few episodes back on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asVjJYMG_8w&list=PL0ra0eqA-KsxiPo3a_OgbGzzTiiRkVdKx Sorry, I don't have the exact episode/timestamp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sakura_sk Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Well @Pyrex042... that is a bug (if that is the episode/timestamp) It seems like the second deconstructed trailblazer gave copper ore instead of copper( I have nooooo idea why...) There are still several glitches when deconstructing stuff while constantly pausing/unpausing (sandbox/debug instant build/deconstruct can give some black holes too..), I don't know if that was the cause though... Normally it should be the 800kg he was expecting to have after deconstructing two trailblazers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avc15 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 On 2/11/2021 at 7:36 PM, hegemontree said: “Space is short. You just won't believe how tinyly, minusculely, mind-bogglingly short it is. I mean, you may think it's a short way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space.” Um, lol. Good one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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