Add Guardian's Horn to Possible Loot Stash Drops?

[YesterdaysLemon]

I would not mind it, but I would not enjoy it; as the more drops the loot stash has, the lower the odds to get a specific item you want would be

[thegreatJash]

4 minutes ago, YesterdaysLemon said:

I would not mind it, but I would not enjoy it; as the more drops the loot stash has, the lower the odds to get a specific item you want would be

A 1/5 chance is equivalent to 20%, and 1/6 chance is equivalent to a little over 16%, so it's not a huge difference. How could you not be happy with a Guardian Horn upon opening the Loot Stash? Sure, you didn't get the Mandrake you wanted, but instead another automatic turret-like mob that works for you.

[ArubaroBeefalo]

9 minutes ago, YesterdaysLemon said:

I would not mind it, but I would not enjoy it; as the more drops the loot stash has, the lower the odds to get a specific item you want would be

think about in this way, less odds of having a danm dessert stone and spider hat

[YesterdaysLemon]

6 minutes ago, thegreatJash said:

A 1/5 chance is equivalent to 20%, and 1/6 chance is equivalent to a little over 16%, so it's not a huge difference. How could you not be happy with a Guardian Horn upon opening the Loot Stash? Sure, you didn't get the Mandrake you wanted, but instead another automatic turret-like mob that works for you.

Would it not be faster to kill the Ancient Fuel-weaver, regenerate the ruins and kill the Ancient Guardian? You will have to wait 55 days until the next winter, assuming you are playing with default world settings, which is about seven hours. Compare that to how long it takes the Ancient Gateway to cool down, which is about two and a half hours if my memory is correct.

 

4 minutes ago, ArubaroBeefalo said:

think about in this way, less odds of having a danm dessert stone and spider hat

Don't even remind me about that, last fight I nearly died since I was in a hurry to fight him before winter ends, all for a damn Spider Queen Hat, Desert Stone, and a Blue Fun Cap blueprint.

[thegreatJash]

4 minutes ago, ArubaroBeefalo said:

think about in this way, less odds of having a danm dessert stone and spider hat

The Loot Stash drops three boss items and a blueprint. One will always be a Scale, Shroom Skin, Bee Queen Crown, Mandrake, or Deerclops Eyeball. The other two can be two of the following items, Royal Jelly, Spiderhat, Steel Wool, Lavae Egg, Down Feather, Malbatross Bill, Desert Stone, and any other I missed. The items chosen are not three randomly pulled from one assortment of items, but rather one from a more valuable assortment of items and two from a less valuable assortment. I would assume if the horn were added, it would be added to the more rare assortment, meaning that your chances of receiving a Desert Stone, Spiderhat, or both, would remain the same.

3 minutes ago, YesterdaysLemon said:

Would it not be faster to kill the Ancient Fuel-weaver, regenerate the ruins and kill the Ancient Guardian? You will have to wait 55 days until the next winter, assuming you are playing with default world settings, which is about seven hours. Compare that to how long it takes the Ancient Gateway to cool down, which is about two and a half hours if my memory is correct.

Exactly.

[00petar00]

10 hours ago, YesterdaysLemon said:

I would not mind it, but I would not enjoy it; as the more drops the loot stash has, the lower the odds to get a specific item you want would be

I think you are misunderstanding the point of Klaus, he was made to have a chance to drop loot from many different bosses, it was never supposed to be more efficient or faster compared to killing bosses that actually drop such item. Players will kill him just for Krampus sack chance anyway.
 

[JaccK1618]

Sure

[Cheggf]

On 1/14/2021 at 2:30 PM, YesterdaysLemon said:

Would it not be faster to kill the Ancient Fuel-weaver, regenerate the ruins and kill the Ancient Guardian? You will have to wait 55 days until the next winter, assuming you are playing with default world settings, which is about seven hours. Compare that to how long it takes the Ancient Gateway to cool down, which is about two and a half hours if my memory is correct.

You raise a good point. Deerclops comes at best once every 70 days while the gateway can be used every 20 days. This change might actually make it harder to get houndius shootius if the horn drop occupies the same slot as the deerclops eye.

Not that any of that matters to a fine culinarian such as myself.

[EirikGerhard]

I always wondered why we can get shroom skins but not horns as rewards from the loot stash. I just assumed that it was to limit the availability of Houndious Shootius, since it is probably the second best structure in the game when used correctly (next to lureplants). Biased opinions aside, I wouldn't care if we got horns in loot stash, since it is rather possible to obtain a horn every 20+ days anyways. As mentioned by others, the problem has always been the eye. Actually, Ancient Fuelweaver loot could also be considered (although I'd rather have better chances for the eye).

In any case, I would be happier if we had the chance of getting a fossil fragment in the loot stash too... I guess it makes zero sense lore wise, but I keep hoping they make fossils renewable somehow

[Szczuku]

I think AG is of lore significance and that's why his horn shouldn't be in the loot stash. Same reason Shadow Pieces and AF's drops don't appear in the loot stash.

[thegreatJash]

13 hours ago, Szczuku said:

I think AG is of lore significance and that's why his horn shouldn't be in the loot stash. Same reason Shadow Pieces and AF's drops don't appear in the loot stash.

Yes, I think that Ancient Guardian does have lore significance, however, I don't think that adding the horn to the Loot Stash drops would change or damage that. The main prize for killing the guardian is the Ancient Key, which I believe is the main reason behind his lore significance. The horn is more of a side dish.

[LinknAllie]

You should be able to get it, but it should be a very very low chance of obtaining it.