Desblat Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 What are you going to shoot with boat cannon, once we get it? I currently see it only as some sort of boss cheesing. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/113148-possible-usage-of-boat-cannons/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooagain Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Desblat said: What are you going to shoot with boat cannon, once we get it? I currently see it only as some sort of boss cheesing. Salt and Malbatross. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/113148-possible-usage-of-boat-cannons/#findComment-1278417 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seero Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 2 hours ago, Desblat said: What are you going to shoot with boat cannon, once we get it? I currently see it only as some sort of boss cheesing. Nope! it would probably be cheaper to face tank any boss you where fighting, beequeen isn't cheeseable anymore, nor is dragonfly i don't think Not sure about klaus but his sack spawning isn't guranteed to be near ocean. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/113148-possible-usage-of-boat-cannons/#findComment-1278469 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowDuelist Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Currently you can make weaponized boats via Winona, and there aren't many stuff to shoot or cheese really. I used it to kill stuff near the shore, like hounds, pengulls and tallbirds, using myself as a lure. I haven't tried to fight the malbatross yet though. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/113148-possible-usage-of-boat-cannons/#findComment-1278481 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frashaw27 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 34 minutes ago, Seero said: beequeen isn't cheeseable anymore, nor is dragonfly i don't think Bunneymen and fences (if not near the ocean) for Bee queen. Adding a ocean didn't restrict the possiblity to have a metric of bunymen to eat her. Dragonfly is just stone walls to block the larva them you have a relativly simple 6 hit pattern. For the boat cannons, I do agree that another method would be better. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/113148-possible-usage-of-boat-cannons/#findComment-1278482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seero Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 8 minutes ago, Frashaw27 said: Bunneymen and fences (if not near the ocean) for Bee queen. Adding a ocean didn't restrict the possiblity to have a metric of bunymen to eat her. Dragonfly is just stone walls to block the larva them you have a relativly simple 6 hit pattern. For the boat cannons, I do agree that another method would be better. I'm going to stop you right there, that's not cheesing, or it isn't in the sense on how "It's an easy way to kill bee queen" A bunnymen farm large enough to take down bee queen, takes a while to make. It's definitely not an easy way out. Placing the stone walls is being strategic, fighting dragonfly in that pattern is more of a dragonfly problem and not "cheesing" it. Too elaborate, in order to make a bunnyman farm strong enough to kill beequeen, you would need to explore the entire caves. Clear every last hutch and kill all the bunnyman + get a lot of wood from the bunnyman you killed. By then you may or may not have enough depending on world gen. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/113148-possible-usage-of-boat-cannons/#findComment-1278485 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frashaw27 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Seero said: I'm going to stop you right there, that's not cheesing, or it isn't in the sense on how "It's an easy way to kill bee queen" A bunnymen farm large enough to take down bee queen, takes a while to make. It's definitely not an easy way out. Placing the stone walls is being strategic, fighting dragonfly in that pattern is more of a dragonfly problem and not "cheesing" it. I think we have different definitions of what cheesing is. I believe cheesing to be using a method that requires much less skill to preform a task that would normally take a lot of skill to do. The ways I outlined may not be stright up win without any effort but they do lower the skill requirement immensely. I do concede that we may have different definitions of cheesing and that might be the reason for the arguement. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/113148-possible-usage-of-boat-cannons/#findComment-1278487 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desblat Posted October 29, 2019 Author Share Posted October 29, 2019 50 minutes ago, Seero said: Nope! it would probably be cheaper to face tank any boss you where fighting, beequeen isn't cheeseable anymore, nor is dragonfly i don't think Not sure about klaus but his sack spawning isn't guranteed to be near ocean. 18 minutes ago, ShadowDuelist said: Currently you can make weaponized boats via Winona, and there aren't many stuff to shoot or cheese really. I used it to kill stuff near the shore, like hounds, pengulls and tallbirds, using myself as a lure. I haven't tried to fight the malbatross yet though. That brings boat cannons to a very situational state: malbatros and salt fishes. Plus some shore mobs. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/113148-possible-usage-of-boat-cannons/#findComment-1278490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seero Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 6 minutes ago, Frashaw27 said: I think we have different definitions of what cheesing is. I believe cheesing to be using a method that requires much less skill to preform a task that would normally take a lot of skill to do. The ways I outlined may not be stright up win without any effort but they do lower the skill requirement immensely. I do concede that we may have different definitions of cheesing and that might be the reason for the arguement. It seems ours is the same, it may lower the skill, but the way you need to do it (making fat bunnyman army) is totally balanced*** Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/113148-possible-usage-of-boat-cannons/#findComment-1278493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKingofSquirrels Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 2 hours ago, ShadowDuelist said: Currently you can make weaponized boats via Winona, and there aren't many stuff to shoot or cheese really. I used it to kill stuff near the shore, like hounds, pengulls and tallbirds, using myself as a lure. I haven't tried to fight the malbatross yet though. This is amazing. I really hope they let them work PVP style. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/113148-possible-usage-of-boat-cannons/#findComment-1278552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canis Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 11 hours ago, TheKingofSquirrels said: This is amazing. I really hope they let them work PVP style. "CAPTAIN!" "Wha-What?!""LOOK!" *Winona is sailing towards them at full speed with a dozen catapults* *PANICKED SCREAMING* Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/113148-possible-usage-of-boat-cannons/#findComment-1278693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowDuelist Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 8 hours ago, Canis said: "CAPTAIN!" "Wha-What?!""LOOK!" *Winona is sailing towards them at full speed with a dozen catapults* *PANICKED SCREAMING* I can hear the background music of this post Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/113148-possible-usage-of-boat-cannons/#findComment-1278794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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