steam battery Alternatives to batteries for solar pannels

[bobucles]

24 minutes ago, OxCD said:

It's not "infinite"

Sure it is. The trick is to dump a huge amount of heat absorbing material into the room along with the steam. Tempshifts and tombstones work well, and random item debris can stack up to unlimited levels. The hard part is recovering the energy from random debris, it will take some kind of investigating to find a good solution.

[OxCD]

33 minutes ago, bobucles said:

Sure it is. The trick is to dump a huge amount of heat absorbing material into the room along with the steam. Tempshifts and tombstones work well, and random item debris can stack up to unlimited levels. The hard part is recovering the energy from random debris, it will take some kind of investigating to find a good solution.

I indeed didn't consider debris mostly because of the very low conductivity it has.

[ZanthraSW]

Why add debris to the steam room. Would it not be better to add water? Is there a steam pressure at which a liquid vent would not work?

Just attach the water inlet to a valve and a thermal sensor to keep the temp around 200C and put the aquatuners in the steam room.

Also does an aquatuner cycling 0K supercoolant not produce any heat?

[Aelfled]

Liquid vents cap out at 1000kg

[ZanthraSW]

Ah yeah. Well if you don't wish to use some method like putting it in a hydrogen bubble, since there is a limit to the amount of steam you can store per tile, with my idea it's a good idea to run the turbine with ports blocked and the steam at higher temperature. With steel AquaTuners, you can run at a temp of 270 with 2 inputs blocked, and if you had a minimum sized steam room below the turbines of 3 high (13 tiles due to 2 ports blocked, you could store 13 tons of steam per turbine. At 1.2 kg/s the turbines could provide constant max power of 850W for almost 11,000 seconds or 18 cycles, If you use a safety shutoff at 20kg steam pressure, then it would be a little less. 25 cycles with Thermium AquaTuners at 360C.

Maximum energy storage for such a system would be:

2 Inputs Blocked energy density (270C steam - steel @ 1t per tile): 708kJ / tile
3 Inputs Blocked energy density (360C steam - thermium @ 1t per tile): 1063kJ / tile

Efficiency running with supercoolant in the aquatuners is as follows:

Aquatuner moves this many DTU per second: 8.44 DTU/g/C * 10000g * 14C = 1181600 DTU
Aquatuner moves this many DTU per Watt (Technically Joules) spent: 1181600 DTU / 1200W = 984.7 DTU/W
Steam turbines extract 0.0009786 Watts per DTU: 984.7 * 0.0009786 = 0.96362742 W out per W in

Also ThermoAquatuners do not produce any heat when cycling supercloolant that is already at absolute zero, it must have heat energy to move or the aquatuner won't heat anything.

[mssonline2019]

PV systems with battery storage work pretty much the same way as systems without battery storage. Electricity is produced by solar panels to power the house while electricity from the grid supplement power shortfalls when the solar panels are not producing.

Nishan Singh

[DreamApart]

On 2019/8/1 at 5:32 PM, Radam said:

What do you use all that power for?

To survive the "winter" when natural gas geysers are dormant.