Metal Refinery output liquid temperature

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Changed Status to Known Issue

Changed Redmine to http://redmine.office.kleientertainment.com/issues/2994

I have noticed in my save that the refinery is not outputting 100% of the hot coolant, but is dropping a large portion as unsweepable bottled liquid in front of the machine. I am using polluted water, but another poster over here says the same thing is happening with crude. The dupes will empty my bottles into a polluted water bottle emptier, but I can not select them.

 

Edited December 16, 2017 by TheScaryOne

Output coolant, until it is pump out (so while still in the machine) is pickable. Duplicants can pick it from machine output (like from storage) and they do it if you have bottle emptier for that liquid somewhere. (probably not intended behavior)

Those unclickable bottles appear when duplicant pick as bottle all available output liquid and 0kg is left. (when you have more bottle emptiers or there was less than 200kg in the machine output at the pickup moment)

Those bottles have 0kg and are not on the ground "flying" and also debug tool "clear floor" is not clearing them but they should disappear with save + load.

I hope they fix this soon

Same bug maybe, but...  10+ t of water somehow got in, and got to 400+ C degrees?? 

Multipaxus.sav

Edited August 18, 2018 by Chuckh
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The same issue occurres when the output pipe is broken. No warnings about the blocked output pipe, Duples continue to use Refinery and water accumulates inside with a huge temperature.

Edited September 8, 2018 by tenko007

I confirm experiencing the same bug here. Two things needs fixing:

1. Fix the temperature calculations for the refinery output buffer by applying the temperature increase only to the amount of liquid that is transferred from the input to the output buffer, not to the whole output buffer. Then combine the two amounts of liquids like for any other liquid interaction, with a weighted average of the temperatures.

2. Add "output buffer < 50% full" to the set of conditions required for assigning a dupe to work at the refinery (along with raw material present, input buffer coolant present and power available).

I ran into this as well, tonnes of superheated water in the refinery.

I destroyed the building and the resulting steam "purged" all life from my base. Fun!

 

Now I also understand why for a long time during game the my water reservoir was hotter than I could explain.

Edited October 17, 2018 by Erikvv

I can not normally build metal. Constantly overheated outlet pipe. The construction of the pipe from the thermium does not help. I tried to build a factory in another place - there is no effect. The screenshot shows everything. 2333.sav

I hope you can hotfix this, it's very annoying.

On 19/10/2018 at 2:42 PM, KrabKley said:

I can not normally build metal. Constantly overheated outlet pipe. The construction of the pipe from the thermium does not help. I tried to build a factory in another place - there is no effect. The screenshot shows everything.

Your coolant is just to hot at the beginning.

 

Supply the refinery with coolant cold enough, and you'll have no more issues with the output pipe.

1 hour ago, Gwido said:

Your coolant is just to hot at the beginning.

 

Supply the refinery with coolant cold enough, and you'll have no more issues with the output pipe.

This is not the case. Read the bug. 

Did you take a look at the temperature of the coolant in the screens of KrabKley ?

It was at 88,3 °C, and he was melting steel, which output 144,2 °C water, that is far beyong the evaporation point.

 

So, as normal, liquid that goes beyond the evaporation point in pipe damage this one. And if it's too much hot ... it breaks.

KrabKley just have to pay attention to the temperature of the coolant.

 

The only bug of the refinery is that it can still work with a broken output pipe, and that the water stacks with increasing temperature.

But if you supply coolant at good temperature, this bug can easely be ignored.

Changed Status to Fixed

In the next major release, the metal refinery will cease working if the output pipe is blocked, so it won't be able to stack up infinite coolant like this.

On 15/11/2018 at 6:28 PM, Ipsquiggle said:

Changed Status to Fixed

In the next major release, the metal refinery will cease working if the output pipe is blocked, so it won't be able to stack up infinite coolant like this.

Will this stop dupes from re-using the refinery before the previous recipes coolant has been processed ?

Thats normally the cause of the over cooking...

@Lifegrow If a dupe has fast enough machinery speed and/or the output pipe is periodically blocked, it's still possible to get a backlog of output coolant; I'll make a new bug for this and see what we can do. 

A bug in the coolant temperature calculations has also been fixed though, which means that even with a backlog of output coolant, it won't get explosively hot unless the input starts coming in hot.