Oxygen Setup - Suggestion Ideas?

[Panz781227]

//English is not my native language//
Hi, i reacently started playing ONI, and would like some feedback on my Oxygen setup, like what i could do better?
-Pictures below.

[Neotuck]

Remove one of the electrolizers or add 2 more air pumps

[Beowulfe]

23 minutes ago, Neotuck said:

Remove one of the electrolizers or add 2 more air pumps

To clarify this, a single Electrolyzer generates 888g/s of Oxygen and 112g/s of Hydrogen (1 kg/sec total), so two Elecrolyzers generate 2 kg/sec of gasses.

A single pump can only handle 500g/s, which means you're generating 2kg/sec and only removing 1kg/sec of gas. With that setup, you'll quickly overpressure the room - to be fair, you shouldn't lose any resources (discounting deletion issues), but you also won't be gaining any extra resources from two Elecrolyzers either (it'll give you the same as only having a single Elecrolyzer).

[Panz781227]

25 minutes ago, Neotuck said:

Remove one of the electrolizers or add 2 more air pumps

Okay (y)

3 minutes ago, Beowulfe said:

To clarify this, a single Electrolyzer generates 888g/s of Oxygen and 112g/s of Hydrogen (1 kg/sec total), so two Elecrolyzers generate 2 kg/sec of gasses.

A single pump can only handle 500g/s, which means you're generating 2kg/sec and only removing 1kg/sec of gas. With that setup, you'll quickly overpressure the room - to be fair, you shouldn't lose any resources (discounting deletion issues), but you also won't be gaining any extra resources from two Elecrolyzers either (it'll give you the same as only having a single Elecrolyzer).

Thanks for the clarification

[JDL]

1. Install radiant gas pipes in your wheezewort room to increase efficiency.
2. Install tempshift plates in your wheezewort room to increase efficiency and buffer temperature. A high specific heat capacity material is ideal, such as dirt (better thermal conductivity) or igneous rock (better specific heat capacity).
3.  Insulate the electrolyzers. It's a cheap investment and slows down your thermal bleed into the upper and lower areas before your wheezeworts can chill your gas output. Ceramic is a good choice here.
4. Upgrade your battery to a smart battery to reduce heat generated by the battery (1.25 kDTU/s vs. 500 DTU/s) and also reduce power runoff (2 kJ/cycle vs. 400 J/cycle), plus allow automation from the battery. There's really zero reason to use anything other than smart batteries except in temporary constructions unless for some reason you desperately need the extra 20 kJ storage capacity (you don't).
5. Assuming your water input is below 70°C, cycle your water input in radiant pipes through your electrolyzer and generator room before feeding it into the electrolyzers. It's free cooling for your gas output and generator room to prevent overheating, since the heat's deleted anyway when it's going into the electrolyzer.
6. You should maintain a ratio of one electrolyzer to two gas pumps to one hydrogen generator. If you want to continue using your second electrolyzer, in addition to the extra two pumps that others have recommended you will need one more hydrogen generator to consume the extra hydrogen output.
7. Your gas filter can be replaced by a gas valve, a pair of bridges and a seeded pipe of low volume hydrogen to save 120W from the design.

[Nitroturtle]

^^ That's a great list of tips.

I'll also add that I'd route the gas through the filter before the cooling chamber.  No reason to cool the hydrogen that's ultimately consumed by the generator.

[ChickenMadness]

5 hours ago, JDL said:

1. Your gas filter can be replaced by a gas valve, a pair of bridges and a seeded pipe of low volume hydrogen to save 120W from the design.

Can you post a screenshot of how this works?

[JDL]

On 02/11/2018 at 11:47 AM, KittenIsAGeek said:

This is a loop.  Whatever value you set your valve to will circulate around this loop indefinitely.  In the case of a mechanical filter, it is set to the lowest value that still has meaning.

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This is the output.  Whatever is extra from looping will go out.  The input of the valve will ALWAYS take the amount that the valve is set to -- anything extra continues on past the valve input.

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Now we will add the input.  Fluid or gas, depending on your pipe, can only leave the bridge if it: 1) Matches the element on the output side, or 2) the output side is empty.  Since your loop will be full of small packets of element A, only element A can pass the bridge.  Everything else goes out the top.

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A smaller setup would be a gas valve connected to a 2 tile pipe along the side feeding into and out of the valve. Don't know if running a pipe directly across the valve itself would work or if it causes pathing issues for the contents, but if you're desperate for an extra 2 tiles of piping feel free to test it!

[KittenIsAGeek]

18 hours ago, JDL said:

A smaller setup would be a gas valve connected to a 2 tile pipe along the side feeding into and out of the valve. Don't know if running a pipe directly across the valve itself would work or if it causes pathing issues for the contents, but if you're desperate for an extra 2 tiles of piping feel free to test it!

I exaggerated the build so that others could clearly see what was going on.  You can build it much much smaller.

[Waifu Wars]

A small thing, make your bathrooms 5 tiles tall so you can put paintings above the lavatories. 

[Neotuck]

1 hour ago, Waifu Wars said:

A small thing, make your bathrooms 5 tiles tall so you can put paintings above the lavatories. 

ya but at 5 tiles tall then you can only make them 12 tiles long

that's only enough room to fit 3 lavs and 3 sinks

[Iriswaters]

37 minutes ago, Neotuck said:

ya but at 5 tiles tall then you can only make them 12 tiles long

that's only enough room to fit 3 lavs and 3 sinks

You can always make it longer by kicking most of the sinks out into a separate room.  Dupes care about using the toilet in a fancy room, not about where they wash their hands.  Just leave the door open, and make the divider tiles out of airflow/mesh/glass/etc to let decor through.  That lets you fit up to 6 lavatories.  Just make sure the only exit goes through the powder room.

[Neotuck]

10 minutes ago, Iriswaters said:

You can always make it longer by kicking most of the sinks out into a separate room.  Dupes care about using the toilet in a fancy room, not about where they wash their hands.  Just leave the door open, and make the divider tiles out of airflow/mesh/glass/etc to let decor through.  That lets you fit up to 6 lavatories.  Just make sure the only exit goes through the powder room.

you do know that sinks are required for the washroom morale buff right? 

[Beowulfe]

2 minutes ago, Neotuck said:

you do know that sinks are required for the washroom morale buff right? 

Only one, though, and he did say "most". You can put the other sinks outside of the room, in the hallway, and they'll still have to pass by them when exiting. It just won't count towards the room size.

[Neotuck]

1 minute ago, Beowulfe said:

Only one, though, and he did say "most". 

He also said: 

5 minutes ago, Neotuck said:

fit up to 6 lavatories

remember we are talking about a 12 tile floor plan

3 minutes ago, Beowulfe said:

You can put the other sinks outside of the room, in the hallway, and they'll still have to pass by them when exiting. It just won't count towards the room size.

this is true, I'm not going to disagree here

[Beowulfe]

Just now, Neotuck said:

He also said: 

remember we are talking about a 12 tile floor plan

That's fair, I had assumed he'd accounted for that when he said "most", as that implies at least one would stay inside. Apologies.

[Neotuck]

rather than raise the ceiling to fit paintings made of granite (max decor 24)

make the ceiling out of airflow tiles and build marble statues with granite (max decor 42)

or if you have plenty of gold use the space to build 2 metal statues (max decor 75)

you can also make the floor with airflow tiles and build more statues underneath for double decor in your bathroom!

[Iriswaters]

Yeah, oops, meant 5.  I knew it(hence most) but glitched it later.

[Waifu Wars]

1 hour ago, Neotuck said:

you do know that sinks are required for the washroom morale buff right? 

[Neotuck]

55 minutes ago, Waifu Wars said:

are you trying to prove me wrong or right with this picture?

[Waifu Wars]

7 minutes ago, Neotuck said:

are you trying to prove me wrong or right with this picture?

neither

[Neotuck]

then why was I quoted? 

[Waifu Wars]

2 minutes ago, Neotuck said:

then why was I quoted? 

i answered your question

[Neotuck]

Just now, Waifu Wars said:

i answered your question

that question was directed at @Iriswaters who made it sound like you could fit 6 lavs in a 12 tile floor and still get the room bonus

it was a simple mistake and the issue was closed

[Waifu Wars]

2 minutes ago, Neotuck said:

that question was directed at @Iriswaters who made it sound like you could fit 6 lavs in a 12 tile floor and still get the room bonus

it was a simple mistake and the issue was closed

Was just trying to help