Oni Noob Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 Is there a possibility that I can find Shove in other planets? I load my old save with the new update unfortunately I already explored the top part of the map and I cant find any shove critters Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97604-shove-critter/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fischer_L Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 No. Just spawn some in debug or sandbox. We wouldn't tell anyone. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97604-shove-critter/#findComment-1104744 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tzionut Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 Or start another game.. like i do... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97604-shove-critter/#findComment-1104752 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oni Noob Posted October 27, 2018 Author Share Posted October 27, 2018 25 minutes ago, tzionut said: Or start another game.. like i do... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97604-shove-critter/#findComment-1104761 Share on other sites More sharing options...
clickrush Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 It's not that big of a deal believe me. They are near impossible to catch, so they force you to sweep up large areas of regolith on the surface so they don't trap your dupes with their poop. They are annoying little ****s essentially. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97604-shove-critter/#findComment-1104771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasza22 Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 There are space destinations that are composed of mostly regolith and mafic rock. It looks like a perfect home for the voles. Maybe they`ll add them as a critter available on those rocks. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97604-shove-critter/#findComment-1104776 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tzionut Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 Quote Maybe they`ll add them as a critter available on those rocks. I add a suggestion but nothing till now... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97604-shove-critter/#findComment-1104778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
crypticorb Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 6 minutes ago, clickrush said: It's not that big of a deal believe me. They are near impossible to catch, so they force you to sweep up large areas of regolith on the surface so they don't trap your dupes with their poop. They are annoying little ****s essentially. Have you found any method that actually catches them? The only reliable method I've found is egg relocating and letting the old ones die out. I've tried baiting with regolith with traps all around, but that rarely works, if the traps don't melt. If a shove vole has tunneled through a door from the surface into the main asteroid, you'll never find it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97604-shove-critter/#findComment-1104780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasza22 Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 22 minutes ago, crypticorb said: Have you found any method that actually catches them? Critters tend to prioritize eating from feeders over eating from the ground. Maybe putting a feeder and traps around it would work (insulated tiles under traps so they won`t melt if in space). Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97604-shove-critter/#findComment-1104788 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellshound38 Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 Wrangle them in a jet suit seems to work well enough Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97604-shove-critter/#findComment-1104834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
clickrush Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 I started a new run and started to dig up and down to establish a vertical main tunnel. Then I found this guy: edit: Probably somehow fell from the top to the bottom. I didn't even breach the surface yet though (was kind of close). OK this one was kind of hanging there for some reason. Seemed like a pathing or behaviour bug of some sort. Then I actually managed to wrangle it but when someone picked it up the game crashed LOL. THESE LITTLE ****S! got em! holy cow it can go through metal doors... I had to save my hatch stables from it and now it's here. cycle 100 shove vole prison! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97604-shove-critter/#findComment-1104887 Share on other sites More sharing options...
crypticorb Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 59 minutes ago, clickrush said: I started a new run and started to dig up and down to establish a vertical main tunnel. Then I found this guy: edit: Probably somehow fell from the top to the bottom. I didn't even breach the surface yet though (was kind of close). OK this one was kind of hanging there for some reason. Seemed like a pathing or behaviour bug of some sort. Then I actually managed to wrangle it but when someone picked it up the game crashed LOL. THESE LITTLE ****S! got em! holy cow it can go through metal doors... I had to save my hatch stables from it and now it's here. cycle 100 shove vole prison! This isn't vole proof. The shove voles can lay an egg that will possibly drop down, and if you don't pay attention when it hatches, the vole will have free reign of the outer layer of that box. If that door isn't made of steel, it'll go right through it, and even if it is, a dupe passing through can allow the vole to path outside and be completely free. The ONLY way to keep voles 100% secure is to make have an auto-sweeper that drops the eggs onto the island, to ensure no escapee eggs. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97604-shove-critter/#findComment-1104908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
clickrush Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 1 minute ago, crypticorb said: This isn't vole proof. The shove voles can lay an egg that will possibly drop down, and if you don't pay attention when it hatches, the vole will have free reign of the outer layer of that box. If that door isn't made of steel, it'll go right through it, and even if it is, a dupe passing through can allow the vole to path outside and be completely free. The ONLY way to keep voles 100% secure is to make have an auto-sweeper that drops the eggs onto the island, to ensure no escapee eggs. Omg I hate them more now... But thx for the heads up! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97604-shove-critter/#findComment-1104909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
crypticorb Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 15 minutes ago, clickrush said: Omg I hate them more now... But thx for the heads up! They're useful for a fairly automated method of destroying regolith cost free. Not sure if that balances out the difficulty of containment, but it's something. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97604-shove-critter/#findComment-1104917 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coolthulhu Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 29 minutes ago, crypticorb said: This isn't vole proof. The shove voles can lay an egg that will possibly drop down, and if you don't pay attention when it hatches, the vole will have free reign of the outer layer of that box. If that door isn't made of steel, it'll go right through it, and even if it is, a dupe passing through can allow the vole to path outside and be completely free. The ONLY way to keep voles 100% secure is to make have an auto-sweeper that drops the eggs onto the island, to ensure no escapee eggs. That's still not 100% secure, because baby voles may detach to do the growing up animation. And if you feed them, voles crap out whole blocks of regolith, which they can use to bridge walls or to drop off them if they're dug out. They can be farmed semi-safely (no breakouts in a hundred cycles despite frequent visits and 5 voles) by having a room within a room, with the outer room containing a critter dropper set to autowrangle all critters. Though they're not really worth farming, because they hate feeders after a while (until save+load or feeder clear+reassign) meaning they can starve to death while passing fully loaded feeders. And they eat so much that dupes will waste a ton of time bringing all that regolith in. Conveyors aren't really an option - a one line will feed one vole at best. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97604-shove-critter/#findComment-1104925 Share on other sites More sharing options...
crypticorb Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 2 hours ago, Coolthulhu said: That's still not 100% secure, because baby voles may detach to do the growing up animation. And if you feed them, voles crap out whole blocks of regolith, which they can use to bridge walls or to drop off them if they're dug out. They can be farmed semi-safely (no breakouts in a hundred cycles despite frequent visits and 5 voles) by having a room within a room, with the outer room containing a critter dropper set to autowrangle all critters. Though they're not really worth farming, because they hate feeders after a while (until save+load or feeder clear+reassign) meaning they can starve to death while passing fully loaded feeders. And they eat so much that dupes will waste a ton of time bringing all that regolith in. Conveyors aren't really an option - a one line will feed one vole at best. Farming isn't really the goal here, I'd be happy with just one and murdering the rest of the eggs, maybe one wild somewhere in a sealed box for safety. If one shove vole could consume the entirety of a meteor shower's regolith, I'd invest in the conveyor system to make it happen. You could work around the feeder problem with an autosweeper dropper, not too difficult. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97604-shove-critter/#findComment-1104974 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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