pacu pacu farm

[geniusthemaster]

im glad i started this topic

[SkunkMaster]

On 20/7/2018 at 10:33 PM, martosss said:

Looking at how helplessly duplicants run around, drop stuff randomly while suffocating/changing their mind about where they want to go or just fill containers with 2g of sand, because there's 2g of free space, I'd say filling a Deoxydizer with 300kg of Algae and forgetting about it until the next cycle feels like a pretty useful use of time to me.

And you can probably automate it with sweepers?(That is if you have all deoxidizers placed in 1 spot and store algae nearby). Not sure about the automation, though .. those Sweepers have a mind of their own sometimes.

In any case, I would treat Algae as a precious resource, same as water.  Would you use water as a heat sink and throw it out in space just because it takes too much duplicant time to build a cooling system?

Can you explain how using algae for oxygen is good in anyway ? 

You can build something like this:

 

And then you will never ever have to supply anything again to get oxygen, all you have to do is tune-up the gens, and it produces surplus power and 45c oxygen. - all oxygen produced is at 45c, if you only cool half you can cool that air down to 20c and the other half you could then supply to exosuit stations.

[martosss]

19 minutes ago, SkunkMaster said:

Can you explain how using algae for oxygen is good in anyway ? 

You can build something like this:

 

And then you will never ever have to supply anything again to get oxygen, all you have to do is tune-up the gens, and it produces surplus power and 45c oxygen. - all oxygen produced is at 45c, if you only cool half you can cool that air down to 20c and the other half you could then supply to exosuit stations.

You're showing me a setup with 4 electrolyzers that will eventually overpressurize because there aren'y enough pumps to suck all the oxygen.

In my base I have 5 electrolyzers running almost 100% the time(unless there's water shortage) + Deodorizers spread around the map and I still don't have enough oxygen.

So, yea, depends how many duplicants you're playing with. I'm using a room of wheezies and a pool of ice cold water for cooling, so I'm cooling my air to 5-15° - the problem is generating more and gathering enough water. That's why Algae deoxydizers can be useful. Also, if you're digging up a new part of the map where you don't have infrastructure you can put an Algae deoxydizer there until you have pipes so that dupes don't suffocate.

[SkunkMaster]

2 hours ago, martosss said:

You're showing me a setup with 4 electrolyzers that will eventually overpressurize because there aren'y enough pumps to suck all the oxygen.

It's funny that you're pointing that out, because that's what makes the setup so efficient.. pumps ONLY run when they can send 500g packets, and ONLY then. Which leads to airpumps being 100% efficient, even if not up 100% of the time...

if the Electros don't run 100% doesn't matter, they only use power while running, not while standing over pressurized or the likes.

 

Again, this is a self contained self powering system.

[martosss]

8 hours ago, SkunkMaster said:

It's funny that you're pointing that out, because that's what makes the setup so efficient.. pumps ONLY run when they can send 500g packets, and ONLY then. Which leads to airpumps being 100% efficient, even if not up 100% of the time...

if the Electros don't run 100% doesn't matter, they only use power while running, not while standing over pressurized or the likes.

 

Again, this is a self contained self powering system.

Yes, and an additional bonus of your system - it's very big ... and electrolyzers are running generally 1/2 of the time, which means your 4-electrolyzer - 8pump system will produce as much oxygen/hydrogen as 2electrolyzer-6pumps of mine. Notice, also, that my pumps also work mostly with full packets since I use automation to stop them when pressure is low. So how is that helpful to my 65 duplicants that need x3 of your systems? My system is using ~350 tiles(for oxygen/hydrogen chambers) vs your ~300 tile system and mine is producing at least x2 the oxygen ... do you see the problem?

[SkunkMaster]

5 hours ago, martosss said:

Yes, and an additional bonus of your system - it's very big ... and electrolyzers are running generally 1/2 of the time, which means your 4-electrolyzer - 8pump system will produce as much oxygen/hydrogen as 2electrolyzer-6pumps of mine. Notice, also, that my pumps also work mostly with full packets since I use automation to stop them when pressure is low. So how is that helpful to my 65 duplicants that need x3 of your systems? My system is using ~350 tiles(for oxygen/hydrogen chambers) vs your ~300 tile system and mine is producing at least x2 the oxygen ... do you see the problem?

only the ones you're creating for your self

[Tobruk]

18 hours ago, SkunkMaster said:

Can you explain how using algae for oxygen is good in anyway ? 

You can build something like this

And then you will never ever have to supply anything again to get oxygen, all you have to do is tune-up the gens, and it produces surplus power and 45c oxygen. - all oxygen produced is at 45c, if you only cool half you can cool that air down to 20c and the other half you could then supply to exosuit stations.

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7 hours ago, martosss said:

Yes, and an additional bonus of your system - it's very big ... and electrolyzers are running generally 1/2 of the time, which means your 4-electrolyzer - 8pump system will produce as much oxygen/hydrogen as 2electrolyzer-6pumps of mine. Notice, also, that my pumps also work mostly with full packets since I use automation to stop them when pressure is low. So how is that helpful to my 65 duplicants that need x3 of your systems? My system is using ~350 tiles(for oxygen/hydrogen chambers) vs your ~300 tile system and mine is producing at least x2 the oxygen ... do you see the problem?

Guys, we are talking about PACUS, not electrolysers...

[martosss]

4 hours ago, Tobruk said:

 

Guys, we are talking about PACUS, not electrolysers...

Pacu... electrolyzers ... same thing - they both need water!