abud Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Where can I find information about how much pressure that specific tile can hold before receiving pressure damage? Is it derived from "hardness" property? How we translate that into pressure? How does it work with double tiles? triple tiles? All that I know is when they close to the limit there is a visual effect like glass about to broken. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/92658-tiles-pressure-damage/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
clickrush Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/92658-tiles-pressure-damage/#findComment-1056138 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argelle Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 To respond to @abud, and recap the video, hardness is a factor but not the only one. Y axis is the number of tiles full of water (in a column) a wall can sustain (max is granite with 30 !!) X axis is rocks hardness Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/92658-tiles-pressure-damage/#findComment-1056145 Share on other sites More sharing options...
abud Posted June 26, 2018 Author Share Posted June 26, 2018 Thanks @clickrush and @Argelle, But that video only testing with water and open on top. As you can see in my screenshot it breaks with 2 tile layer. It holds (for now) with 3 tiles. And it is not deep. It is oil from this post: In my opinion, the relation should be tile material and pressure. How it can hold more with 2 or 3 layers, I don't know Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/92658-tiles-pressure-damage/#findComment-1056201 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argelle Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Video is testing doublelayer, and it supports a little less than twice what a single layer does. (three layer = less than 3 time?) Anyway if you're afraid it cracks, metal tiles seems to hold a s..load of water. Except.. with your 80°C oil, high temperature conduction through metal may be a problem? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/92658-tiles-pressure-damage/#findComment-1056203 Share on other sites More sharing options...
abud Posted June 26, 2018 Author Share Posted June 26, 2018 In CU preview few weeks ago, my gulp pond breaks a few times. Because a bug that making polluted water cannot push water above it (it is fixed now). That pond only 3 tile deep 7 minutes ago, Argelle said: Anyway if you're afraid it cracks, metal tiles seems to hold a s..load of water. Actually no problem, I just curious. Today I just made 3rd hot water storage, I was wonder it will hold enough water (that video answer this, the answer is no, I need double layer or cut it a bit). I imagine making an aquarium with window tile, how much water it can holds? Probably I should enable debug or sandbox and test it myself. I just being lazy Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/92658-tiles-pressure-damage/#findComment-1056207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhailRaptor Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Argelle said: Video is testing doublelayer, and it supports a little less than twice what a single layer does. (three layer = less than 3 time?) My understanding is that any 3 width barrier is impervious to liquid pressure. Is that no longer the case? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/92658-tiles-pressure-damage/#findComment-1056224 Share on other sites More sharing options...
abud Posted June 26, 2018 Author Share Posted June 26, 2018 I just tried using granite. That video is outdated. More than 50 tiles depth, and it is okay. I tried different pressure, single granite break about 5400 kg 47 minutes ago, PhailRaptor said: My understanding is that any 3 width barrier is impervious to liquid pressure. Is that no longer the case? I don't know, I'll update once I found out (only if I figured out xD). Btw, how to overpressure liquid? Door compactor? Update 1 Behold sedimentary rock, you can do it. It is not 3 anymore Actually, sedimentary rock can hold about 1300 Kg water Left pic 1200 and it is okay, middle pic 1300 about to break, I was sure it is by pressure (hence the name pressure damage), not depth. Until I tried petroleum, it just 1100 Kg and about to break Update 2 Probably @PhailRaptor right. 3 tile sedimentary can hold... max amount I can type in sandbox mode Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/92658-tiles-pressure-damage/#findComment-1056230 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SackMaggie Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 then use metal instead ? Door is pretty good for making tank. Spoiler It can hold infinite amount of pressure. Note: Cracking is from berried stuff Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/92658-tiles-pressure-damage/#findComment-1056320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parusoid Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 1 hour ago, SackMaggie said: then use metal instead ? Door is pretty good for making tank. Hide contents It can hold infinite amount of pressure. Note: Cracking is from berried stuff To bad if they fix it. It does not seem to be intentional feature especially now when we have bunker walls Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/92658-tiles-pressure-damage/#findComment-1056355 Share on other sites More sharing options...
abud Posted June 26, 2018 Author Share Posted June 26, 2018 9 hours ago, SackMaggie said: Door is pretty good for making tank Nice find, but I'm not going to make a tank using doors. 9 hours ago, SackMaggie said: then use metal instead ? Tank... from metal 8 hours ago, Parusoid said: To bad if they fix it. Even if they didn't fix it, it just too strange and scary using doors that way. Just personal opinion though Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/92658-tiles-pressure-damage/#findComment-1056362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabrute Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 I saw something similar with an accidental waterloop in my own base where I saw pressure jump over 3000kg but it wasn't very long so I dismissed it as a fluke. Thanks for testing this. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/92658-tiles-pressure-damage/#findComment-1056398 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SackMaggie Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 @Parusoid @abud By using metal I mean use airflow tile. But door is just cheaper. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/92658-tiles-pressure-damage/#findComment-1056401 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmf35 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Why is airflow tile used for tanks? Never read an explanation... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/92658-tiles-pressure-damage/#findComment-1056404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SackMaggie Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, jmf35 said: Why is airflow tile used for tanks? Never read an explanation... It can hold much more pressure than regular tile. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/92658-tiles-pressure-damage/#findComment-1056405 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabrute Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 the cell is filled with a gas and gas can't be broken by pressure. Its like using surface tensions and making a giant swimming pool with fireants.... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/92658-tiles-pressure-damage/#findComment-1056407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parusoid Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 1 hour ago, SackMaggie said: But door is just cheaper. I know, but currently its exploit Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/92658-tiles-pressure-damage/#findComment-1056417 Share on other sites More sharing options...
abud Posted June 26, 2018 Author Share Posted June 26, 2018 Guys, original question in this thread is how game decide to break the tile. If it determined by pressure, how much pressure. So far probably testing in debug mode is the only choices. From my test in water vs petroleum, I found out it is not by pressure. 4 hours ago, SackMaggie said: By using metal I mean use airflow tile. 4 hours ago, Kabrute said: the cell is filled with a gas and gas can't be broken by pressure. Its like using surface tensions and making a giant swimming pool with fireants.... It is applied when the liquid inside didn't have the power to displace gas under airflow. With previous changes on liquid to gas displacement, it still unlimited pressure limit? They might (or not) change this behavior in the future. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/92658-tiles-pressure-damage/#findComment-1056473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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