Carnis Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 Recently finished my gas factory.. cant set it to full power until I can consume the by product.. co2. Current numbers/estimates Im looking at 3.75kg/1.25kg water/co2 per second compared to status quo. Later upgraded to 8kg/sec but this will eat out the magma slowly. Colony is 180 cycles old & I still frequently have expecting! debuff on my dreckos and slicksters. Looking at making 4 new slickster ranches 96 x 4. My old ranch had a sweeper+incubator+conveyor loader + refrigerator. Idea was to use the incubator whenever there is meat in the fridge.. but incubator cannot Be automated so I Lost 6 slicksters to old age while auto-eating their newborn.... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/92494-whats-the-best-way-to-raise-slicksters/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
clickrush Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Carnis said: Recently finished my gas factory.. cant set it to full power until I can consume the by product.. co2. Current numbers/estimates Im looking at 3.75kg/1.25kg water/co2 per second compared to status quo. Later upgraded to 8kg/sec but this will eat out the magma slowly. Colony is 180 cycles old & I still frequently have expecting! debuff on my dreckos and slicksters. Looking at making 4 new slickster ranches 96 x 4. My old ranch had a sweeper+incubator+conveyor loader + refrigerator. Idea was to use the incubator whenever there is meat in the fridge.. but incubator cannot Be automated so I Lost 6 slicksters to old age while auto-eating their newborn.... If you ranch for the material conversion of a critter then you don't need to overproduce them (that is for meat/eggs production). The 'expecting' debuff is actually helpful in that regard, it just hinders them to reproduce before they would get the overcrowded debuff, which actually hinders metabolism because it makes them unhappy, which you want to avoid when you ranch for material conversion. Everything you need to know is here: Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/92494-whats-the-best-way-to-raise-slicksters/#findComment-1054666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnis Posted June 22, 2018 Author Share Posted June 22, 2018 I want both ofc, I need the food too, I think I will make an eggdropper pen next to the 6 material conversion ranches. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/92494-whats-the-best-way-to-raise-slicksters/#findComment-1054692 Share on other sites More sharing options...
clickrush Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, Carnis said: I want both ofc, I need the food too, I think I will make an eggdropper pen next to the 6 material conversion ranches. https://forums.kleientertainment.com/topic/90816-water-clock-logic-circuit/ Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/92494-whats-the-best-way-to-raise-slicksters/#findComment-1054695 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnis Posted June 22, 2018 Author Share Posted June 22, 2018 if we do an eggdropper pen with autowrangle set to 0. all the critter feeders in the real pens with autowrangle on 8. and we collect 100% of eggs to eggdropper, and drop surplus to a butchery room.. then its automated? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/92494-whats-the-best-way-to-raise-slicksters/#findComment-1054715 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherBoris Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 7 hours ago, Carnis said: Current numbers/estimates Im looking at 3.75kg/1.25kg water/co2 per second compared to status quo Erm...5kg Natural Gas per seconds its 56 NG Generators or 44800W of energy. What are you want to do with all this energy? Its 37 Auqatuners! Want to overcool whole asteroid? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/92494-whats-the-best-way-to-raise-slicksters/#findComment-1054799 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcream23 Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 if all you want to do is get rid of excess CO2 (byproduct) than you can just dump it out to space, in my latest playthrough i have a dedicated line of pipes meant to dump gasses out to space, and i say its quite useful. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/92494-whats-the-best-way-to-raise-slicksters/#findComment-1054809 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnis Posted June 23, 2018 Author Share Posted June 23, 2018 8 hours ago, AnotherBoris said: Erm...5kg Natural Gas per seconds its 56 NG Generators or 44800W of energy. What are you want to do with all this energy? Its 37 Auqatuners! Want to overcool whole asteroid? I burn it as waste energy, co2 becomes meat and pW becomes water. I have 42+5 built, but not enough slicksters. Its an impressive system. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/92494-whats-the-best-way-to-raise-slicksters/#findComment-1054967 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherBoris Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, Carnis said: I burn it as waste energy, co2 becomes meat and pW becomes water. That is, you do not grow mushrooms from CO2 + water? This is much more effective than meat from Slicksters. And where are my screenshot of your oil boiler?! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/92494-whats-the-best-way-to-raise-slicksters/#findComment-1054968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnis Posted June 23, 2018 Author Share Posted June 23, 2018 Co2 to slicksters is most effective. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/92494-whats-the-best-way-to-raise-slicksters/#findComment-1055002 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherBoris Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 11 minutes ago, Carnis said: Co2 to slicksters is most effective. Hm? 180kg CO2 can feed 9 Slicksters. 1 Egg per 6 cycles, so 9 Slicksters its a 1.5 * 2 = 3kg Eggs per Cycle. Or 1.5 * 2 = 3kg meat. Plus 90kg of Oil/Petroleum. 180kg CO2 + 600 kg Water = 600kg Polluted Water = 600kg Polluted Oxygen 600kg Polluted Oxygen can feed 20 Pufts.. 1 Egg per 4.5 Cycle. So 20 Pufts its 4.4 * 0.5 = 2.2 kg Eggs per Cycle. Or 4.4 * 1 = 4.4 kg Meat. Plus 300kg Slime. 12 kg Slime per Duplicant (mushrooms) = food for 25 duplicants Where is 'most effective'? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/92494-whats-the-best-way-to-raise-slicksters/#findComment-1055012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnis Posted June 23, 2018 Author Share Posted June 23, 2018 Saved 600 litres of water for breathing, and recycles 90kg CO to oil. Food is NOT an issue with 70+dups, oxygen/water is. Never built a CO skimmer on My last 10 base. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/92494-whats-the-best-way-to-raise-slicksters/#findComment-1055013 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherBoris Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, Carnis said: Saved 600 litres of water for breathing, and recycles 90kg CO to oil. 18 hours ago, Carnis said: Current numbers/estimates Im looking at 3.75kg/1.25kg water/co2 per second You have 3.75 kg Water per second. 40% of this you spend in Oil Well. So you have 3.75 * 0.6 = 2.25kg. Its enough for 22.5 duplicants... Ok, you right I think about ot P.S. So you do not want share your realisation of my theorycraft, yes? Its sad Spoiler Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/92494-whats-the-best-way-to-raise-slicksters/#findComment-1055017 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnis Posted June 23, 2018 Author Share Posted June 23, 2018 12 minutes ago, AnotherBoris said: P.S. So you do not want share your realisation of my theorycraft, yes? Its sad Reveal hidden contents Need to be sure my gaspumps survive transitioning from waterboiling to polluted waterboiling, this will save 22K in waste heat management, but the ambient temp will come very near 125. Had issues in a previous model, where cooling and gascollecting shared room and all the pumps melted. I will put something up later. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/92494-whats-the-best-way-to-raise-slicksters/#findComment-1055021 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherBoris Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 19 hours ago, Carnis said: 3.75kg/1.25kg water/co2 per second I thought! Some more funny numbers for you 1 hatch produce 2kg egg per 6 cycles. Its 5600kcal. 1 hatch require 140kg clay per cycle for food. As i calculate before, PWater->Oxygen convetrer produce 96kg clay per Duplicant per cycle. So. (5600/6) * (96/140) = 640. 1) PWater->Oxygen convertrer produce 640 kcal per cycle per duplicant. 96kg of clay its 48kg of coal. After coal generator its 48*20 = 960g CO2. 1 Slickster produce 2kg egg per 4.5 cycles So (5600/4.5) = 1244.44kcal per cycle 640 from hatches, so from slicksters we must obtain 360kcal 360/1244.44 = 0.29 slickster per Duplicant. Slickster eat 20kg CO2 per cycle. 0.29 slickster eat 5.8kg CO2. Minus CO2 from coal: (5800-960)/600 = 8.1 g/s NOTE: I do not know where CO2 is from the exosuits, so here I do not take into account 2g per second from each duplicant 2) For feeding of duplicants only by omelets, 8.1g/s CO2 is enough. Conclusion: you do not need puft ranch. You do not need any farm You are comletely free from agriculture! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/92494-whats-the-best-way-to-raise-slicksters/#findComment-1055027 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnis Posted June 23, 2018 Author Share Posted June 23, 2018 My map is from ranch II. No regolith. Your numbers forget, that 2kg egg = 1kg eggshell, 1kg raw egg. So you only get 2800kcal/2kg egg or 4000kcal/2kg meat+1pincha. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/92494-whats-the-best-way-to-raise-slicksters/#findComment-1055043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherBoris Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Ok. Thnx Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/92494-whats-the-best-way-to-raise-slicksters/#findComment-1055048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FullMetalArthur Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 16 hours ago, Wolfcream23 said: if all you want to do is get rid of excess CO2 (byproduct) than you can just dump it out to space, in my latest playthrough i have a dedicated line of pipes meant to dump gasses out to space, and i say its quite useful. Very, what I used to do before was make a room full of automated doors and fill it with unwanted gases. Then during the night it was set to close and destroy the gas. Now I just can pump it up and that's it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/92494-whats-the-best-way-to-raise-slicksters/#findComment-1055148 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnis Posted June 24, 2018 Author Share Posted June 24, 2018 If you are Happy destroying co2 maybe try playing with less resources / More dupes. I'm on fence about chlorine. Very annoying, but useful to dreckos. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/92494-whats-the-best-way-to-raise-slicksters/#findComment-1055397 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WanderingKid Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 25 minutes ago, Carnis said: If you are Happy destroying co2 maybe try playing with less resources / More dupes. I'm on fence about chlorine. Very annoying, but useful to dreckos. I have found Chlorine to be a very curious, if particular, coolant. I'm working on making it awesome, but for 'gasses just lying around' it's quite useful. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/92494-whats-the-best-way-to-raise-slicksters/#findComment-1055413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomato Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 I have large slickster ranches set up, but my issue is that my slicksters are always glum and produce less oil. How do I remove that debuff? do they require small amounts of crude oil in their vicinity or something? How close does it need to be then, or is there something else I'm overlooking? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/92494-whats-the-best-way-to-raise-slicksters/#findComment-1055418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man in the Mist Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 You need a grooming station in the room that they're located in, and have ranchers groom them daily. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/92494-whats-the-best-way-to-raise-slicksters/#findComment-1055445 Share on other sites More sharing options...
watermelen671 Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 Quote Whats The best way to raise slicksters? Why, with love of course! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/92494-whats-the-best-way-to-raise-slicksters/#findComment-1055459 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomato Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 2 hours ago, Man in the Mist said: You need a grooming station in the room that they're located in, and have ranchers groom them daily. thanks, I already had grooming stations but I stepped up the priorities and employed more ranchers, now my slicksters are happy! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/92494-whats-the-best-way-to-raise-slicksters/#findComment-1055483 Share on other sites More sharing options...
heckubis Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 ranches have a 96 tile limit making it crowded for more then 8 critters set your auto wrangle to 5-6 critters and they wont over crowd. have young brought to their own raising area then auto wrangled back to the living pens when they are all grown up. will stop both over crowding and expecting you can let eggs lay there and hatch or gather them if you want. you can even have a separate larger area for runoff critters or a kill floor with no auto wrangle set as long as its priority is less then the pens they will stay loaded and any extra critters are fair food. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/92494-whats-the-best-way-to-raise-slicksters/#findComment-1055504 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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