Why hydrogen generators don't output iron?

[he77789]

The hydrogen generator does not consume O2 and produce water (would make electrolyzer obsolete), then why it doesn't it output iron as a fusion byproduct? IIRC all elements lighter than iron can be fusioned for energy until iron, which is too heavy that no net power is gained.

[Smuch]

The hydrogen generator is not a fusion reactor. (fission reactor aren't even implemented in the game)

It's a classic fuel combustion one with hydrogen as the fuel, using the principle of Hydrogen fuel. (truel it should reject some O2 and consume some O2  and some water for cooling/steam generation purpose, as should the coal burning one as well, really, but they just simplifyy it for gameplay puroses, I think)

Uh maybe the O2 produced as resut of combution is the vrysme used for the tem in th iner workin of the generator. I'm sue tere's plenty of physical eason it mkes no sense but let's go with that anyway.

[BlueLance]

Because this is an alternate reality and not real life.

That is the only reason that I can think of.

[Sevio]

Electrolyzers are needed as a way to avoid Not Including Oxygen in your base. A hydrogen generator that doesn't use oxygen is a suitable sink to get rid of the hydrogen since it has no other use really.

Lots of processes in the game are not mass conserving. For example, Duplicants consume oxygen but only return a small fraction of that as carbon dioxide. On the other hand, Geysers provide a constant input of new mass into the asteroid, especially water.

[0xFADE]

12 hours ago, he77789 said:

The hydrogen generator does not consume O2 and produce water (would make electrolyzer obsolete), then why it doesn't it output iron as a fusion byproduct? IIRC all elements lighter than iron can be fusioned for energy until iron, which is too heavy that no net power is gained.

When they release the portable sun generator we might get iron out of it.  That iron would probably be hot enough to instantly fry your base.

[trukogre]

13 hours ago, he77789 said:

The hydrogen generator does not consume O2 and produce water (would make electrolyzer obsolete), then why it doesn't it output iron as a fusion byproduct? IIRC all elements lighter than iron can be fusioned for energy until iron, which is too heavy that no net power is gained.

Had you not noticed that the other 3 combustion-based generators don't consume O2 either?

[XEVEN]

Fusing hydrogen creates helium anyway, not iron. You'd have to go quite a bit further down the fusion chain to get to iron.

Fusing iron however, consumes more energy than it produces which is why the heavier, rarer elements like gold and platinum are only created in supernovae.

[0xFADE]

On 6/18/2018 at 8:38 PM, XEVEN said:

Fusing hydrogen creates helium anyway, not iron. You'd have to go quite a bit further down the fusion chain to get to iron.

Fusing iron however, consumes more energy than it produces which is why the heavier, rarer elements like gold and platinum are only created in supernovae.

It eventually gets to iron from hydrogen.  he was just skipping many steps and probably an impressive amount of time.

[he77789]

Maybe 100g/s H2 + 1 cycle -800w = 6kg iron?

[Yunru]

6 minutes ago, he77789 said:

Maybe 100g/s H2 + 1 cycle -800w = 6kg iron?

The entire point is that a fusion reactor produces iron and energy. Why would it take energy?

(There's also the fact that fusion reactors take a lot of energy unless they've sufficient mass, but oh hey look, a use for neutronium.)

[he77789]

Why take energy? Balance issues. What? Free iron from natgas? (ngg -> skimmer -> sieve -> electrolyzer -> H2 Gen)

[Yunru]

38 minutes ago, he77789 said:

Why take energy? Balance issues. What? Free iron from natgas? (ngg -> skimmer -> sieve -> electrolyzer -> H2 Gen)

So... "Free" iron from natgas? In a process that you have as also using filtration material?

That's at least two materials I'm counting going into that "free" iron.

[he77789]

People are complaining about too much regolith(filtration material) from the sky.