scaldinghotcarl Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 On 6/16/2018 at 4:59 AM, Sevio said: I think small bladder is bugged right now. I took a dupe with small bladder and had a look at their bladder change / cycle: It was 100.2% instead of the regular 100%. It's so tiny that it's not even noticable. I think they might have meant it to be 20% (0.2) but forgot to account for a divide by 100 somewhere. Why would "small bladder" correlate to more volume per cycle? Wouldn't it just mean that there are more trips to the lavatory with smaller volumes each time? The more I read about this game the more I'm utterly confused. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91981-lavatory-water-adder/page/2/#findComment-1052598 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulwind Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 The quantity of p water is fixed per use of the facilities. Small bladder makes it so instead of 1 use per cycle, it's 1.2 uses. Hence more water, but not much. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91981-lavatory-water-adder/page/2/#findComment-1052638 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenIsAGeek Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 I've been using this for a very long time. Lately I've set things up so that my lavatories and showers empty into a polluted pool, with a stretch of buffer pipe that goes up to a water sieve. The sieve feeds back in to the toilets/lavatories. During initial priming, a pump fills up the 'fresh water' lines. After that, all the excess goes into the pool. Spoiler And yes: I'm using the sandbox on this particular run. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91981-lavatory-water-adder/page/2/#findComment-1052664 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevio Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 26 minutes ago, Soulwind said: The quantity of p water is fixed per use of the facilities. Small bladder makes it so instead of 1 use per cycle, it's 1.2 uses. Hence more water, but not much. My point with my previous post was that it isn't 1.2 uses per cycle, it's 1.002 uses per cycle. 0.2% is 0.002. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91981-lavatory-water-adder/page/2/#findComment-1052672 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulwind Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 12 minutes ago, Sevio said: My point with my previous post was that it isn't 1.2 uses per cycle, it's 1.002 uses per cycle. 0.2% is 0.002. Sorry, I was responding to scaldinghotcarl's question. I hadn't noticed the math error. Yes I think it's supposed to be 20% increase. It might just be my observation skills but I do notice a difference in lavatory usage, and if the number really is .002 then I don't think it wouldbe noticeable. Maybe it's just a display error? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91981-lavatory-water-adder/page/2/#findComment-1052709 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arash70 Posted June 19, 2018 Author Share Posted June 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Soulwind said: The quantity of p water is fixed per use of the facilities. Small bladder makes it so instead of 1 use per cycle, it's 1.2 uses. Hence more water, but not much. Instead of 1 use, 1.002 uses Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91981-lavatory-water-adder/page/2/#findComment-1052788 Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaldinghotcarl Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Soulwind said: Sorry, I was responding to scaldinghotcarl's question. I hadn't noticed the math error. Yes I think it's supposed to be 20% increase. It might just be my observation skills but I do notice a difference in lavatory usage, and if the number really is .002 then I don't think it wouldbe noticeable. Maybe it's just a display error? So it isn't 1.2, or 1.02, units of urine that comes out of them, but they use the bathroom once every 1.02 cycles? But that would still mean that they are going less often than the average Joe. It would need to be phrased along the lines of "1.02 breaks per cycle" so that eventually one day they will need to go twice. Sorry...it's the engineer in me that is being technical; which is why I like games like this and Eve. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91981-lavatory-water-adder/page/2/#findComment-1052798 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulwind Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 19 minutes ago, scaldinghotcarl said: So it isn't 1.2, or 1.02, units of urine that comes out of them, but they use the bathroom once every 1.02 cycles? But that would still mean that they are going less often than the average Joe. It would need to be phrased along the lines of "1.02 breaks per cycle" so that eventually one day they will need to go twice. Sorry...it's the engineer in me that is being technical; which is why I like games like this and Eve. Well yes and no. A dupe's bladder level goes from 0 to 100 percent in one cycle. When at 100, the facilities are used. Small bladder dupes go from 0 to 102 percent in one cycle. So eventually a dupe will go twice in one cycle at the very start and at the very end Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91981-lavatory-water-adder/page/2/#findComment-1052820 Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaldinghotcarl Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Ah. Gotcha. Still...of all the negative traits it's one of the best to have. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91981-lavatory-water-adder/page/2/#findComment-1052844 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulwind Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Absolutely. Small bladder, loud sleeper, and gastrophobia are pretty much ignorable Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91981-lavatory-water-adder/page/2/#findComment-1052846 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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