Metal volcano steam turbine with metal access and minimal heat loss

[DMFan79]

20 hours ago, alown said:

How did you made your  vaccum section?

with the debug tool ?

In my opinion, the best way to create vacuum is to use luquids to block gases exchange. Just dig a 3x3 room, put ladders on the sides and one tile in the upper-center, then fill the lower six tiles with a liquid (any will do). Once you've done this, start digging, you'll have a room perfectly devoid of gases...

Example taken from Google:

[blash365]

21 hours ago, landromat said:

Steam is very heavy, just don't use chlorine as second gas and it will eventually go down. I just sealed gas that already was here, so i have mix of gases and  it works fine. Also, magma volcanoes are better for power generation because they give much more heat. Metal volcano steam turbine is very unstable source of power, but hey, it's free (almost)

Is this actually a thing? I always thought gas evens out in oni across all tiles in a room (of the same element).

You are saying that when i put an average of 12kg steam per tile into a room, the top tiles will have ~3kg less than the bottom tiles on the long run?

Does anyone have additional resources on this? twitchbeard maybe? or oozecube?

[landromat]

2 hours ago, blash365 said:

Is this actually a thing? I always thought gas evens out in oni across all tiles in a room (of the same element).

You are saying that when i put an average of 12kg steam per tile into a room, the top tiles will have ~3kg less than the bottom tiles on the long run?

Does anyone have additional resources on this? twitchbeard maybe? or oozecube?

just fill top with any gas lighter than steam and it will work

[Ringkeeper]

11 hours ago, landromat said:

just fill top with any gas lighter than steam and it will work

little explanation why:

 

Steam turbine only checks pressure, not content of the tile. So if you have oxygen/hydrogen up there, say 1kg, you always have lower pressure above then below.

[avc15]

On 5/6/2018 at 6:45 PM, landromat said:

huge hear loss. you have to keep system closed if you want maximum efficiency

mostly, yes.

I still think klei will do another pass on the steam generator, this trick to fool its conditions and connect the exhaust straight back into the boiler isn't intended. Another bamboozle right alongside door compressors - we already have positive displacement gas compressors in the game, they are called "gas pump". I mean, use what you want but I think neither of these were klei's intent and both are maybe subject to "tuning" in a future update.

I feel like the intended challenge is to make a condenser/boiler pair that doesn't waste heat. Which is quite a lot easier now that radiant liquid pipes and in-pipe sensors are available. In prior releases, such a condenser/boiler pair was so huge it took up multiple screens and hurt performance a lot. I made one that barely worked, but it wasn't stable - always pressures ran away from each other until something stopped working, and then I had to adjust the layout of my condenser again. Too frustrating. So now maybe there's a chance; I estimate the boiler + condenser can be small enough to fit on one screen together.

[blash365]

18 hours ago, landromat said:

just fill top with any gas lighter than steam and it will work

Oh, there is hydrogen at the top of your turbine room?o.O

I was hoping for a "clean"  solution (assuming that its an unintended exploit to mix gases).

[JonnyMonroe]

2 hours ago, blash365 said:

Oh, there is hydrogen at the top of your turbine room?o.O

I was hoping for a "clean"  solution (assuming that its an unintended exploit to mix gases).

This does work but doing so causes the turbine to delete steam. If you have a completely clean build no steam will be deleted and the pressure issue can be solved with a simple door pump.

 

On 07/05/2018 at 4:43 PM, DMFan79 said:

In my opinion, the best way to create vacuum is to use luquids to block gases exchange. Just dig a 3x3 room, put ladders on the sides and one tile in the upper-center, then fill the lower six tiles with a liquid (any will do). Once you've done this, start digging, you'll have a room perfectly devoid of gases...

Example taken from Google:

 

I know that's not your picture but I have a minor stroke looking at batteries stored in a vacuum.