Hydrogen Generator outputing water

[felix920506]

need water

[TG pro]

There's hydrogen in WATER

[Ambaire]

not sure what OP is trying to suggest. two words do not a suggestion make.

[felix920506]

I want the hydrogen generator to output water

[vovik]

Well, for hydrogen generator outputting water it needs to consume oxygen what halts the idea of creating electrolyzer oxygen generation as the only sources to remove hydrogen are AETHN and hydrogen generator otherwise hydrogen will build up and ruin your base.  With electrolyzer oxygen generation halted the ONLY source of oxygen will be algae which is VERY limited and cannot be efficiently reproduced through pufts - algae refiner. Also this will make electrolyzer obsolete as machine. And idea of hydrogen generator creating water out of.. hydrogen eems strage af.

Someone must say that this suggestion is stupid and it will be me. This suggestion is stupid, sorry.

[scientas]

54 minutes ago, felix920506 said:

I want the hydrogen generator to output water

The only input gas for the hydrogen generator is hydrogen, which it destroys. If you pump oxygen into it, it breaks. You need both hydrogen and oxygen to make water. One gets used and one breaks the machine.

Now if the suggestion was for an element combiner/fusion device where you could pump in hydrogen and oxygen gas and somehow create water, then maybe that would make more sense.

[crypticorb]

@felix920506 With each new thread you create, your ideas are less and less thought out. If you could attempt to explain your ideas, or even think about why the devs should add any of your suggestions into the game, everyone would appreciate it, and it would reduce the spam.

As for this particular idea, it is just plain dumb. While in reality hydrogen generators react with oxygen to create water byproduct, this is a game where the main objective is oxygen generation, and a method to destroy hydrogen is required, thus the hydrogen generator. There are plenty of water sources in the game currently.

[TG pro]

There is another way of getting water: using debug mode (and then all how ur dupes drown because u switch between paint and fill and then leave ur base to have some fun with liquid staff like chlorine and oxygen and while doing so u get the "colony lost" massage)

[Acru]

6 hours ago, crypticorb said:

As for this particular idea, it is just plain dumb. While in reality hydrogen generators react with oxygen to create water byproduct, this is a game where the main objective is oxygen generation, and a method to destroy hydrogen is required, thus the hydrogen generator. There are plenty of water sources in the game currently.

Just a thought, there could be a path added for converting hydrogen to natural gas, which would be plausible. (CH₄ or other hydrocarbons)

[ImpalerWrG]

It might be useful to clarify how lifesupport on the ISS works.

They start with Electrolizers to generated oxygen, but the byproduct of Hydrogen is sent to Sabatier device that uses CO2 and Hydrogen to create water and methane aka Natural gas (btw they should change the name methane is more scientifically accurate), this process dose not consume electricity but dose produce heat.

This methane used to be vented to space, but they are now running methane through a Pyrolisis unit which breaks it down to Hydrogen (which is then added back to the Sabatier) and pure carbon aka coal, note that this process has high energy input and heat outputs as it happens at nearly 1200C.  If devices could use the ambient temperature of their surroundings to give a discount to their electrical consumption then this would be an interesting way to kind-of extract energy from heat sources.

Alternatively the Bosch reaction takes CO2 and Hydrogen and converts them directly to Water and Coal, it is likewise exothermic and dose not need a power source (the Hydrogen is the power source).  This has not been used in spaceflight yet because the machine tends to breakdown as carbon gets deposited on the catalyst.  This could be reflected in requiring it to be manually operate like a Smelter.

If these reactions existed in the game then you might be able to have power plants operate to consume oxygen and produce the expected byproducts, but it would be a massive overhaul of the games chemical life-support systems.

[crypticorb]

4 hours ago, ImpalerWrG said:

It might be useful to clarify how lifesupport on the ISS works.

They start with Electrolizers to generated oxygen, but the byproduct of Hydrogen is sent to Sabatier device that uses CO2 and Hydrogen to create water and methane aka Natural gas (btw they should change the name methane is more scientifically accurate), this process dose not consume electricity but dose produce heat.

This methane used to be vented to space, but they are now running methane through a Pyrolisis unit which breaks it down to Hydrogen (which is then added back to the Sabatier) and pure carbon aka coal, note that this process has high energy input and heat outputs as it happens at nearly 1200C.  If devices could use the ambient temperature of their surroundings to give a discount to their electrical consumption then this would be an interesting way to kind-of extract energy from heat sources.

Alternatively the Bosch reaction takes CO2 and Hydrogen and converts them directly to Water and Coal, it is likewise exothermic and dose not need a power source (the Hydrogen is the power source).  This has not been used in spaceflight yet because the machine tends to breakdown as carbon gets deposited on the catalyst.  This could be reflected in requiring it to be manually operate like a Smelter.

If these reactions existed in the game then you might be able to have power plants operate to consume oxygen and produce the expected byproducts, but it would be a massive overhaul of the games chemical life-support systems.

That is a fascinating and well constructed real life example of a closed system life support. I knew there were chemical reactions to bind hydrogen other than burning for water ala Mark Watney style, but was'nt well versed enough in chemistry to recall them.

You should make a separate thread in general discussion involving closed loop life support systems for this gem of a comment, where it will be better seen.