Neotuck Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 I seen some people make complex builds to cool polluted oxygen till it condenses to liquid. After playing around various designs I found a simple way to cool polluted O2 using single 6 tile room filled with hydrogen. Enough room for a gas pump, a vent, and a temp sensor set to above -200C. H2 is pumped to a single regulator automated by the temp sensor. I keep the regulators cool by dripping PW from a slush geyser the hydrogen temp is very slow to drop once you get it started but it's steady enough to reach the needed -183C Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89863-liquid-oxygen-made-easy/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabrute Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 how long from construction to lox? pumps create heat, not a lot but they do, so thats the first spot your fighting yourself in this system. Secondly, your tsp setup like that makes the entire thing thermally locked doesn't it? like, your entire cooling rail should be nearly = in temp with that many shift plates, which is great once you get lox started but...... yeah.... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89863-liquid-oxygen-made-easy/#findComment-1026649 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted April 16, 2018 Author Share Posted April 16, 2018 The temp drops about 3 degrees per cycle so it's a bit slow from construction but once it reaches -185C then it can maintain that tempature. I'm going to try another design that uses a diamond radiator Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89863-liquid-oxygen-made-easy/#findComment-1026680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabrute Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 I think you can really boost speed by using more regulators in a single line, mebe hook a bypass valve in there for when the temps below 230 so it only passes through 1 regulator to "maintain" your temps. Your moving 1500 g/s through you "1" regulator "averaging" at a cost of 1kj/s so your cooling roughly 100g by 1c for 100joules per second if you add a second regulator to each loop you double your cooling factor while only raising total power consumption by 1/3 of your current consumption, that is 1.3xpower but 2x cooling and would fit into your current design on all but top floor without alteration....alternatively union your hydrogen chambers and make a "coolant rail" and go from 3pumps to 2, but 3 regs to 5 at the same total power cost but with a substantial increase in cooling factor Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89863-liquid-oxygen-made-easy/#findComment-1026682 Share on other sites More sharing options...
onlineous Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 I think you could optimize it by dropping the liquid oxygen in the first chamber. In a real base you need to vaporize the oxygen anyway, and that would gain you a lot of precooling, while dropping 1 thermoregulator. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89863-liquid-oxygen-made-easy/#findComment-1026684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
suicide commando Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Howmuch LOX do you make with this setup? You should look into using an aquatuner as well. Once you have a good supply of LOX, cooling it down with an aquatuner and then using it to cool down pO2 that is precooled will up your production a lot as an aquatuner can suck out heat a hell of a lot faster than thermo regulators. ( look at the post about my setup I made on reddit about it ) I plan on stepping up LOX production soon, then use it to cool boiled oil so I have NG at a reasonable temp and O2 for my dupes at a reasonable temp. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89863-liquid-oxygen-made-easy/#findComment-1026695 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lifegrow Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 4 hours ago, suicide commando said: Howmuch LOX do you make with this setup? You should look into using an aquatuner as well. Once you have a good supply of LOX, cooling it down with an aquatuner and then using it to cool down pO2 that is precooled will up your production a lot as an aquatuner can suck out heat a hell of a lot faster than thermo regulators. ( look at the post about my setup I made on reddit about it ) I plan on stepping up LOX production soon, then use it to cool boiled oil so I have NG at a reasonable temp and O2 for my dupes at a reasonable temp. The ting with aquatuners is you need some LOX to get started Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89863-liquid-oxygen-made-easy/#findComment-1026750 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted April 16, 2018 Author Share Posted April 16, 2018 5 minutes ago, Lifegrow said: The ting with aquatuners is you need some LOX to get started I thought about the same thing but I'll still use an aqua tuner in my next design to cool the LOX before I store it for later use 6 hours ago, Kabrute said: I think you can really boost speed by using more regulators in a single line, mebe hook a bypass valve in there for when the temps below 230 so it only passes through 1 regulator to "maintain" your temps. Your moving 1500 g/s through you "1" regulator "averaging" at a cost of 1kj/s so your cooling roughly 100g by 1c for 100joules per second if you add a second regulator to each loop you double your cooling factor while only raising total power consumption by 1/3 of your current consumption, that is 1.3xpower but 2x cooling and would fit into your current design on all but top floor without alteration....alternatively union your hydrogen chambers and make a "coolant rail" and go from 3pumps to 2, but 3 regs to 5 at the same total power cost but with a substantial increase in cooling factor Working on another design and I plan to automate several regulators to improve the cooling factor Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89863-liquid-oxygen-made-easy/#findComment-1026752 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0xFADE Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Having a slush geyser would be nice. I had just 4 tame pufts consume all the p02 I could find along with an infectious geyser so I'd need to make even more if I wanted to lox it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89863-liquid-oxygen-made-easy/#findComment-1026774 Share on other sites More sharing options...
suicide commando Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 10 hours ago, 0xFADE said: Having a slush geyser would be nice. I had just 4 tame pufts consume all the p02 I could find along with an infectious geyser so I'd need to make even more if I wanted to lox it. Morbs are your friend.. get a couple of outhouses, have them get filled by your dupes and close of the door leading in. You'll be drownining in pO2 in no time once you bring in say 40 morbs. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89863-liquid-oxygen-made-easy/#findComment-1026902 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flydo Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 On 16/04/2018 at 12:04 PM, Kabrute said: I think you can really boost speed by using more regulators in a single line, mebe hook a bypass valve in there for when the temps below 230 so it only passes through 1 regulator to "maintain" your temps. Your moving 1500 g/s through you "1" regulator "averaging" at a cost of 1kj/s so your cooling roughly 100g by 1c for 100joules per second if you add a second regulator to each loop you double your cooling factor while only raising total power consumption by 1/3 of your current consumption, that is 1.3xpower but 2x cooling and would fit into your current design on all but top floor without alteration....alternatively union your hydrogen chambers and make a "coolant rail" and go from 3pumps to 2, but 3 regs to 5 at the same total power cost but with a substantial increase in cooling factor I often use three regulator in line with bypass valve to use two and after only one regulator to prevent freezing, it's sure pretty efficient Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89863-liquid-oxygen-made-easy/#findComment-1026985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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