avc15 Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 Meep.... Why??? I've resorted to hiding it from my dupes... Man we really need a way to tell the engineer not to use our rare metals... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89337-stop-using-my-damn-tungsten/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabrute Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 be careful they don't pull it through the door o.o thats rough but I do the same thing Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89337-stop-using-my-damn-tungsten/#findComment-1021813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flydo Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 Perhaps with the smart storage, i don't know how it's work. Sure you will be angry Or use a dupe checkpoint (but dupe checkpoint is useless if no powered) Or auto sweeper to put it in a close room and another autosweeper to get it out and desactivate the manual use on the receptacle Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89337-stop-using-my-damn-tungsten/#findComment-1021815 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilda Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 What exactly is the increased power output? I never felt the need to actually use the control station - not needed in the early cycles, not useful in late with a giant generator room. The cost of random refined metal makes it even less tempting to use. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89337-stop-using-my-damn-tungsten/#findComment-1021833 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flydo Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 it increase your output by 50% Manual generator 400 W become a 600 W gen for the same use Coal gen 600 W become a 900 W gen for the same amount of coal Hydrogen and gas gen 800 W become 1200 W for the same amount of gas petroleum 1200 W become 1800 W steam turbine 2000 W become 3000 W Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89337-stop-using-my-damn-tungsten/#findComment-1021835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
snormer Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 6 minutes ago, Vilda said: What exactly is the increased power output? I never felt the need to actually use the control station - not needed in the early cycles, not useful in late with a giant generator room. The cost of random refined metal makes it even less tempting to use. It's quite useful actually. It increases power 50% without increasing the consumption. Great for saving coal early and middle game, till you set up NG factory or slickster farm. The metal cost is very low. 5kg metal per generator is enough for 3 cycles. You won't even notice Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89337-stop-using-my-damn-tungsten/#findComment-1021844 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flydo Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, snormer said: It's quite useful actually. It increases power 50% without increasing the consumption. Great for saving coal early and middle game, till you set up NG factory or slickster farm. The metal cost is very low. 5kg refined metal per generator is enough for 3 cycles. You won't even notice Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89337-stop-using-my-damn-tungsten/#findComment-1021845 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenIsAGeek Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 Still, its very useful. I really like the improvements. It means that I can power my early base off coal without worrying about filling up with heat or CO2. Lately I've run some pretty decent bases almost exclusively off hydrogen. The increased power output means that even if you design your electrolyzer layout badly, you can still run the whole thing off the hydrogen it produces. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89337-stop-using-my-damn-tungsten/#findComment-1021850 Share on other sites More sharing options...
snormer Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, Flydo said: 5kg refined metal per generator Sure. Still, it's the cost of one automation wire link. Vs 14.4 tons of Tungsten... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89337-stop-using-my-damn-tungsten/#findComment-1021851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flydo Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 12 minutes ago, snormer said: Sure. Still, it's the cost of one automation wire link. Vs 14.4 tons of Tungsten... Yeah sure, i just add the precision for Vilda who never use power station and i prefer that my dupe made microchips with iron or copper than tungsten Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89337-stop-using-my-damn-tungsten/#findComment-1021854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lutzkhie Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 power station should have a setting as to what material is used for tune up Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89337-stop-using-my-damn-tungsten/#findComment-1021889 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhailRaptor Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 Does it still take an extravagant amount of time to manufacture the chip? Then another epoch to actually install it? Because it it does, then it's still not worth it... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89337-stop-using-my-damn-tungsten/#findComment-1021979 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oozinator Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 Place your lockers, with your precious stuff, two tiles away from the door, to be sure. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89337-stop-using-my-damn-tungsten/#findComment-1021991 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkunkMaster Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 How about using shipping? You could ship the metals you would like to be used. If the stations are full, then no metal will be delivered either. One arm with a container set to 500kg next to the station should be enough. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89337-stop-using-my-damn-tungsten/#findComment-1021992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oozinator Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 Doors with permissions are enough to fix that problem, no need to overcomplicate with other stuff. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89337-stop-using-my-damn-tungsten/#findComment-1021995 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flydo Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 27 minutes ago, SkunkMaster said: How about using shipping? You could ship the metals you would like to be used. If the stations are full, then no metal will be delivered either. One arm with a container set to 500kg next to the station should be enough. if you want to use only one type of refined metal, autosweeper could be a answer, but you will have a lot of refined metal stuck on the rail Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89337-stop-using-my-damn-tungsten/#findComment-1022009 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkunkMaster Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 no need to use rails ? - And it is possible to have more then 1 resource on the rails, you just need to use automation to shift between the resources. 3 input shipping containers, and a timer circuit to activate one for 5 secs at a time. now you have 3 different kinds of stuff on your rails. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89337-stop-using-my-damn-tungsten/#findComment-1022011 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flydo Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 14 minutes ago, SkunkMaster said: no need to use rails ? - And it is possible to have more then 1 resource on the rails, you just need to use automation to shift between the resources. 3 input shipping containers, and a timer circuit to activate one for 5 secs at a time. now you have 3 different kinds of stuff on your rails. Could be a good idea Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89337-stop-using-my-damn-tungsten/#findComment-1022019 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oozinator Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 11 minutes ago, SkunkMaster said: you just need to use automation to shift between the resources. 3 input shipping containers, and a timer circuit to activate one for 5 secs at a time. now you have 3 different kinds of stuff on your rails. Or a door with permissions.. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89337-stop-using-my-damn-tungsten/#findComment-1022020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkunkMaster Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 Just now, Oozinator said: Or a door with permissions.. door with permission will **** with you. for one you wont be able to see the resources (in your resource overview) if no dupe has access to it, and then there is the fact there wont be build with it either. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89337-stop-using-my-damn-tungsten/#findComment-1022022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabrute Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 the idea is that 1 dupe, the engineer, can't get into That storage but everyone else can, and the engineer is the only one who Can get throught he power room door. thus noe futzing with visuals or buildables Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89337-stop-using-my-damn-tungsten/#findComment-1022023 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkunkMaster Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Kabrute said: the idea is that 1 dupe, the engineer, can't get into That storage but everyone else can, and the engineer is the only one who Can get throught he power room door. thus noe futzing with visuals or buildables sure, if you're okay with your engineers running supply jobs instead of doing what they are supposed to do. But i think that as soon you have access to shipping then you should also do your most to use it where you can. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89337-stop-using-my-damn-tungsten/#findComment-1022024 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabrute Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 sooooo did not expect it to be that big o.o at any rate if you don't want your egineer running supplies on the one system he is supposed to be maintaining thats totally your choice. This game is awesome because everyone can play how they like, specialized or super dupers its all up to the players Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89337-stop-using-my-damn-tungsten/#findComment-1022026 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oozinator Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 11 minutes ago, SkunkMaster said: But i think that as soon you have access to shipping then you should also do your most to use it where you can. You can, when you want. Shipping so far, was never needed in my playthroughs. Sure a nice game addition and when someone likes it, why not, but for me, they are not needed. Same tor Tubes. I run bases with <10 Dupes (could run >25) but even with 5 there are always idle dupes, standing around. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89337-stop-using-my-damn-tungsten/#findComment-1022031 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilda Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 12 hours ago, snormer said: It's quite useful actually. It increases power 50% without increasing the consumption. Great for saving coal early and middle game thanks for info. That's pretty weaksauce buff, given the amount of coal the hatches produce and the need to build actual room for it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89337-stop-using-my-damn-tungsten/#findComment-1022065 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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