Albreo Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 I have been looking into other people's O2 generator and came up with my own. Also came with smallest possible borg module. Self sufficient and automatically ejects excess H2. Main hydrogen generator will never lack H2 with this method of ejection. Borg module can cut Itself off from main circuit to prevent overload which will not disrupt O2 production. At full load, it can archive 1 full air duct constantly at constant temperature, 600 Kg/cycle. More pics Borg efficiency control This automation circuit controls amount of water pump into thermo regulator and wait for new temperature to set in before repeat. In this way, I will be able to pump in colder water to cool it further. This 2 s. setting will reduce temperature by roughly 1 degree every loop which resulted in finer control over borg cube and effectively reduce power consumption. Once water was pumped, the cube will detach itself from main circuit and consume power from battery instead to prevent overload. (better and messier control can be done) Comparison between metal tile and mesh tile drip. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88291-self-cooling-o2-generator/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Albreo said: Comparison between metal tile and mesh tile drip. You're not setting the metal tile up correctly. Place it one tile lower in the water and watch the magic unfold. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88291-self-cooling-o2-generator/#findComment-1010951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lutzkhie Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 i call it the Mushroom Oxydizer, i thought of utilizing thermo regulator + wheez + hydrogen, im at 2000+kg of oxygen, i even opened up my base and nearby biome are flooded with oxygens now except the bottom part, temp is at -10 to 20c, sometimes -50c if electrolyzer is disabled, airflow tile on the side was supposedly to fix max pressure but apparently too cold of oxygen is being released yet it works as intended Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88291-self-cooling-o2-generator/#findComment-1010966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasuha Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Electrolyzer is self-cooling on its own. Even if you feed it with 95 C water straight from geyser and keep it in abyssalite chamber, it cools itself with its own output and it never exceeds 75 C. Spoiler When it's about cooling the resulting oxygen, my preferred solution is this: Three worts are fine for my 8 duplicants (the upper door opens every once in a while if the gas gets too cold) but may not be if you use full 1kg/s capacity or perhaps even more. This setup can keep the air safely within 10 C range even if the usage varies over time. And part of the air for the base goes through the door, pumps are for the most part to keep exosuit stations full. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88291-self-cooling-o2-generator/#findComment-1011024 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albreo Posted March 5, 2018 Author Share Posted March 5, 2018 16 hours ago, Saturnus said: You're not setting the metal tile up correctly. Place it one tile lower in the water and watch the magic unfold. Alright, I have retest it and it actually work better but still require a very specific placement. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88291-self-cooling-o2-generator/#findComment-1011131 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albreo Posted March 5, 2018 Author Share Posted March 5, 2018 5 hours ago, Kasuha said: Three worts are fine for my 8 duplicants (the upper door opens every once in a while if the gas gets too cold) but may not be if you use full 1kg/s capacity or perhaps even more. This setup can keep the air safely within 10 C range even if the usage varies over time. And part of the air for the base goes through the door, pumps are for the most part to keep exosuit stations full. I think you should use metal door vacuum set up, by surrounding metal door with tile all around, when it open, it will have vacuum inside and no heat can pass through. I have seen people used it lately. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88291-self-cooling-o2-generator/#findComment-1011139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasuha Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 3 hours ago, Albreo said: I think you should use metal door vacuum set up, by surrounding metal door with tile all around, when it open, it will have vacuum inside and no heat can pass through. I have seen people used it lately. That door is not a duplicant entry. It's there to let some oxygen out when outside pressure is below 2 kg/tile. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88291-self-cooling-o2-generator/#findComment-1011208 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 6 hours ago, Albreo said: I have tried it. It's pretty much slower and required specific placement. I used it to cool steam geyser before and it doesn't work well. Unless I still put it wrongly, Temp was going down slowly 1 degree in 10 sec then I change it my way which is way more effective. This pic show only a few drip, like maybe 30 sec worth, and it already decimate 75 degree water. Yes then you're doing it incorrectly. The mesh tile method is kinda ok but very slow compared to a properly set up Borg Cube. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88291-self-cooling-o2-generator/#findComment-1011265 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albreo Posted March 5, 2018 Author Share Posted March 5, 2018 2 hours ago, Kasuha said: That door is not a duplicant entry. It's there to let some oxygen out when outside pressure is below 2 kg/tile. Err no, I mean something like this, not the exit door. This way you can keep temp at constant. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88291-self-cooling-o2-generator/#findComment-1011273 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 38 minutes ago, Albreo said: Err no, I mean something like this, not the exit door. This way you can keep temp at constant. He's using another method as you can see. Using the doors to temperature control the mix between the cooled and the hot oxygen instead. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88291-self-cooling-o2-generator/#findComment-1011286 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasuha Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 30 minutes ago, Albreo said: Err no, I mean something like this, not the exit door. This way you can keep temp at constant. Oh, okay, I understand now. Yeah that sure works too but I don't think my setup is any worse. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88291-self-cooling-o2-generator/#findComment-1011288 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albreo Posted March 5, 2018 Author Share Posted March 5, 2018 7 hours ago, Saturnus said: Yes then you're doing it incorrectly. The mesh tile method is kinda ok but very slow compared to a properly set up Borg Cube. I have now redone it and it's a tad bit better in my small cube but construct it with dupe will be very hard since it requires a vacuum in one small tile when enclose the top. Maybe I can drain some off to create vacuum. Now that I think about it, is this bug cause by vacuum? Hmm. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88291-self-cooling-o2-generator/#findComment-1011360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Here's how you build the Borg Cube and make those vacuums. My original design is used by so many people because it is so easy to build. First build it up with all connections, power line etc etc Fill it up with 8½ to 9 tiles of the liquid you're using the filler liquid vent on the left. Using water that's 8500kg to 9000kg. Run it for an instant using the thermo sensor to switch it on and off very fast to form the liquid lock at the top Corner build in a tile in each corner Deconstruct them again. And run it briefly again. And you're done. Borg Cube complete with vacuum corners. Very easy. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88291-self-cooling-o2-generator/#findComment-1011367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albreo Posted March 5, 2018 Author Share Posted March 5, 2018 Oh yeah, that work too. Mine has now evolved into a borg laser beam. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88291-self-cooling-o2-generator/#findComment-1011372 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sueca Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 On 3/5/2018 at 5:22 PM, Saturnus said: Run it for an instant using the thermo sensor to switch it on and off very fast to form the liquid lock at the top What are the sensor settings? I want to build this cube in my base because I need both cooled air and cooled water. Is everything built with abyssalite/gold amalgam? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88291-self-cooling-o2-generator/#findComment-1016543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lifegrow Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 On 18/03/2018 at 6:03 PM, Sueca said: What are the sensor settings? I want to build this cube in my base because I need both cooled air and cooled water. Is everything built with abyssalite/gold amalgam? That would depend on what liquid you're using - it's just to shut the aqua tuner down, so ~14 degrees Celsius before liquid freezing temperature is your lowest possible setting. Hence why most people use Oil as their coolant. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88291-self-cooling-o2-generator/#findComment-1025418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technoincubus Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 Drip cooling is gone, so not viable it seems Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88291-self-cooling-o2-generator/#findComment-1033529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhailRaptor Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 5 minutes ago, Technoincubus said: Drip cooling is gone, so not viable it seems This thread was written quite some time before the fixed drip cooling. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88291-self-cooling-o2-generator/#findComment-1033533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
crypticorb Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 Let the thread die folks. Drip cooling is gone, so let it go to archives. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/88291-self-cooling-o2-generator/#findComment-1033540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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