Zarquan Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Parusoid said: Liceloaf 50 water per 1700 makes 0.03 water per calorie. Berry 120 water per 2000 calories makes 0.06. So it means you need to use more water for berries than liceloaf. @Izzy248 berries are not more water efficient than liceloaf. Assuming that the farmer's touch buff (double growth) is present 100% of the time (wchich is doubtful) the water efficiency is approximately the same as the liceloaf, but it will never be better The issue with liceloaf is the dirt cost, not the water cost. Dirt is not easy to make. You start with a lot, but it isn't easily renewable and you will eventually run out. Surprisingly fast, actually. Berries just use water, which comes in to the world over time via steam geysers, nat gas generators, and petroleum generators. Maybe I'm missing one or two, but those are the main ones. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87575-who-is-able-to-use-the-farm-station/page/2/#findComment-1004346 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parusoid Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 6 hours ago, Zarquan said: The issue with liceloaf is the dirt cost, not the water cost. Dirt is not easy to make. You start with a lot, but it isn't easily renewable and you will eventually run out. Surprisingly fast, actually. Berries just use water, which comes in to the world over time via steam geysers, nat gas generators, and petroleum generators. Maybe I'm missing one or two, but those are the main ones. Um what? No, we do not tackle what's the issue with liceloaf. It was never mentioned. Yiur post that I referred to was about water efficiency. Please don't change subject for no reason. And you write now about other things just for the sake of writing... This is just a weird segway.... It's like I would say '2 plus 2 is 4' and you were like 'yeah, but 2 + 3 is 5, so stfu'.... I mean both are true but are completely unrelated. Just admit that you were wrong about water efficiency instead of posting some pseudo arguments gosh Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87575-who-is-able-to-use-the-farm-station/page/2/#findComment-1004483 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMFan79 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 15 hours ago, avc15 said: my farmer makes micronutrients until there are 2 laying on the ground but then never actually applies them. That happens when your farmer has "supply" disabled in the job activities. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87575-who-is-able-to-use-the-farm-station/page/2/#findComment-1004508 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parusoid Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 40 minutes ago, DMFan79 said: That happens when your farmer has "supply" disabled in the job activities. Exactly. It's bad idea. It should all be included in "farming". They need to change that asap so we don't have to make sure that the job we assigned does not require other job to be active. Like when I assign tidy I expect this dupe to tidy, and I shouldn't had to assign supply or operate in order for superior to carry items and out them into containers or something like that Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87575-who-is-able-to-use-the-farm-station/page/2/#findComment-1004509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
avc15 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 4 hours ago, DMFan79 said: That happens when your farmer has "supply" disabled in the job activities. hm, interesting, though I have supply enabled for all duplicants. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87575-who-is-able-to-use-the-farm-station/page/2/#findComment-1004553 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarquan Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 9 hours ago, Parusoid said: Um what? No, we do not tackle what's the issue with liceloaf. It was never mentioned. Yiur post that I referred to was about water efficiency. Please don't change subject for no reason. And you write now about other things just for the sake of writing... This is just a weird segway.... It's like I would say '2 plus 2 is 4' and you were like 'yeah, but 2 + 3 is 5, so stfu'.... I mean both are true but are completely unrelated. Just admit that you were wrong about water efficiency instead of posting some pseudo arguments gosh I can easily admit I'm wrong. I missed the word "water" when you said "water efficient" and thought you just said "efficient." In that context, I think my post makes more sense. I'm not trying to be rude, and I didn't think my post could be read as a "stfu". Some people may not have noticed that mealwood takes dirt yet, and I feel it is important to inform them of the change, as that change is significant. 1 hour ago, avc15 said: hm, interesting, though I have supply enabled for all duplicants. It can also happen if the priority on the farm station is higher than on the crops. Would it be possible to see a screenshot of the priorities? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87575-who-is-able-to-use-the-farm-station/page/2/#findComment-1004561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
avc15 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Is working now. I'm not sure exactly what I had wrong. Fiddled a few things and he started tending crops. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87575-who-is-able-to-use-the-farm-station/page/2/#findComment-1004563 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roboson Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 9 hours ago, Parusoid said: And you write now about other things just for the sake of writing... This is just a weird segway.... It's like I would say '2 plus 2 is 4' and you were like 'yeah, but 2 + 3 is 5, so stfu'.... I mean both are true but are completely unrelated. Just admit that you were wrong about water efficiency instead of posting some pseudo arguments gosh Nice overreaction. Anyhow, yeah I was totally wrong earlier. It seems that the reason that I couldn't get them to apply except after that one first time is because I took supply off of my farmer's job list because they stopped farming and went about supplying. That is something that ONI needs to work on IMO. Farm tasks should be under farming, and not require you having to divert your farmer (or micromanage them constantly) away from that just to do their job. That's one of the few quirks of the new system that I think (hope) they will sort out in a hotfix. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87575-who-is-able-to-use-the-farm-station/page/2/#findComment-1004568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemie Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 17 hours ago, Parusoid said: Liceloaf 50 water per 1700 makes 0.03 water per calorie. Berry 120 water per 2000 calories makes 0.06. So it means you need to use more water for berries than liceloaf. @Izzy248 berries are not more water efficient than liceloaf. Assuming that the farmer's touch buff (double growth) is present 100% of the time (wchich is doubtful) the water efficiency is approximately the same as the liceloaf, but it will never be better I did say farmer/greenhouse so berries are 60kg but I used 1200 CAL by mistake (lice vs loaf) so thanks. Same wster usage....for 2 better quality. My point was more berries are 8x less water now which is huge and I think better than lice once you have seeds and farmer trained. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87575-who-is-able-to-use-the-farm-station/page/2/#findComment-1004587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMarcher74 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Also Your farmer needs to have the crop tending trait. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87575-who-is-able-to-use-the-farm-station/page/2/#findComment-1012932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhailRaptor Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 7 hours ago, TMarcher74 said: Also Your farmer needs to have the crop tending trait. This is attached to the actual job "Farmer", which is the T2 farming job. Which is required as either a current Job assignment or a past Job mastery. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87575-who-is-able-to-use-the-farm-station/page/2/#findComment-1013083 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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