High Capacity Ventilation

[TV4Fun]

At present, it's nearly impossible to implement any kind of central oxygenation system, because the vents get full very quickly. I have tried running multiple vents in parallel, but that just seems to create further confusion as the air is no longer sure where it's supposed to go. Some higher capacity ventilation options, perhaps with similar rules as the heavi-watt wiring would make more ventilation solutions available.

[mckzchi]

There's already a high capacity vent that allows pressure to up to 20kg?

[TV4Fun]

Gas pipes, I mean.

[NurdRage]

The trick I use is NOT to go parallel, but series. 

 

Basically I have a central oxygen plant and after everything is filtered the oxygen is piped in and the first vent is placed in the sleeping quarters. But the pipe doesn't stop there, it continues on and another vent on on top of it is placed in the bathroom. It continues snaking and another vent is placed somewhere else. All around my base this continues with the same pipe and multiple vents on top of it. No branches.

 

Now when it runs it pressurizes the first room up to 2000 like it should and when it reaches there the gas packets continue to the next room... and when that room is pressurized the gas packets continue onto the next room. I can pressurize my whole base to near 2000 with just this system.

The beauty of this is that if a room is full, the gas keeps going to the next room. If the dupes use up some oxygen, then the vent drops off packets until the room is full again. Because there is no branching, the gas flows quickly and without confusion.

Now you still need more pipelines if you have lots of dupes. But you can make indeed make a central oxygen plant and distribute out your whole colony without too much hassle this way.

 

 

 

[Kasuha]

5 hours ago, TV4Fun said:

I have tried running multiple vents in parallel, but that just seems to create further confusion

The way gas and liquid pipes work in ONI is a bit unintuitive. It is not based on pressure as one is used to from real world. Each pipe segment has a life of its own and makes its own decisions which way it will send packets that arrive to it. It does so based on what inputs and outputs are placed on branches of pipe coming out of it - there must be an input on the pipe, and branches with no outputs have priority. If you make loops on pipes or mix up inputs and outputs, the segments will get confused and the flow will not look like you expect.

[brummbar7]

On 10/11/2017 at 6:03 PM, TV4Fun said:

Some higher capacity ventilation options, perhaps with similar rules as the heavi-watt wiring would make more ventilation solutions available.

The problem is heavy watt is somewhat balanced by the need to put transformers to get it down to regular wire.  Transformers take space, output heat, etc.  With gasses, there's no logical equivalent.  So if you can just attach regular ducts to heavi-ducts without any intermediary, it's a bit easy perhaps.  I'd say that heavi ducts and pipes could be good, but they should go beyond heavi-watt and act as buildings, allowing no other structures, or underlying smaller pipes/ducts, in the same tile.

[Michi01]

They could take up two tiles and not be capable of going through wall tiles.

[The Plum Gate]

Or they could just bump insulated gas pipes up to 5 or 10kg capacity.

I'm not sure if the gas pipe even says how much capacity it has per section... though I know it's 1kg.

[Jaffa66]

At type of pipe with higher capacity would be great.  I have run into situations, especially with gas pipes, where I am inputting faster than it can be outputted.  Even putting multiple outputs doesn't help since the pipe logic stops flow while it decides which branch to send the next packet.  I hate having to run multiple branches just to spread the load.  Having an expensive trunk style pipes, like the insulated pipes would be great.

[TV4Fun]

How about a high-pressure pipe, since being a gas high pressure would also be high density, and you could have regulators to convert it to lower pressure.

[The Plum Gate]

On 10/20/2017 at 1:18 AM, TV4Fun said:

How about a high-pressure pipe, since being a gas high pressure would also be high density, and you could have regulators to convert it to lower pressure.

The current valve is a potential candidate for this (- the output is numerically limited to the highest pressure of the existing standard gas pipe packet size -) utilizing existing infrastructure. However - intra pressure valves would then be on the list of wants.

I don't think a pressure damage mechanic is in place - only temperature, and phase changes ( both liquid and gas lines - on this front.)

[MidnightSteam]

On 10/11/2017 at 6:03 PM, TV4Fun said:

At present, it's nearly impossible to implement any kind of central oxygenation system, because the vents get full very quickly.

Want an even higher High Pressure Gas Vent? Need to store extra gas? Well you've come to the right place!

You'll get up to 150Kg of gas pressure before the vents start flickering.

I've set up an example of how you can build the design on the top right. You'll want to get 40Kg of hydrogen into the spaces and set up your pipes before deconstructing the tile under each vents. Could also do a pipe design but gas doesn't move fast enough. If you could somehow summon a gust of wind it'd allow you to move as much gas as you'd like.

Here's the save - HolloweenGasTank2.sav

Happy Holloweens