gas switch (not presure)

[eloy2030]

I'd love to have a switch that can recognize which gas is in the tile. 

"activate when gas is hydrogen" for example.

same thing for liquids of course.

 

cheers!

[AlexRou]

Why can you not use filters? 

[Masterpintsman]

Because with filters you can't test for the presence of a certain gas in a certain tile?

 

 

 

[AlexRou]

But if you only have a certain gas in a room the filter would shut off if it's empty (I THINK). Which is more or less what he wants.

[caffeinated21]

Mmmm- my intuition here is that these switches would make things too easy. Instead of having to filter the pump pulling the hydrogen from the top of your base, you could just set a "gas type" switch by your pump which only turns on if the pump is in hydrogen. 

You'd have to think about a way to balance this. Perhaps they are very high on the tech tree, and consumer power. "Gas chromography switch", "Liquid PH-ificator"

[AlexRou]

1 minute ago, caffeinated21 said:

Mmmm- my intuition here is that these switches would make things too easy. Instead of having to filter the pump pulling the hydrogen from the top of your base, you could just set a "gas type" switch by your pump which only turns on if the pump is in hydrogen. 

You'd have to think about a way to balance this. Perhaps they are very high on the tech tree, and consumer power. "Gas chromography switch", "Liquid PH-ificator"

I think they will be pretty useless if I'm reading the post right. The way gas works in the game, a single tile gas detector won't do much/anything and you would still need a filter. Unless maybe you cover the entire room with it and connect all of them together so that all of them must trigger, even then it is not any more useful than filtering the gas and pumping it into a room and pumping out every other gas.

[Kasuha]

For applications like "start up the scrubber if the CO2 level reached this high" or "start up the gas pump if hydrogen level reached this low" it would be fine. A single bubble of the gas would trigger it for a moment but not permanently so it could achieve pretty high level of efficiency for such purposes.

[AlexRou]

32 minutes ago, Kasuha said:

For applications like "start up the scrubber if the CO2 level reached this high" or "start up the gas pump if hydrogen level reached this low" it would be fine. A single bubble of the gas would trigger it for a moment but not permanently so it could achieve pretty high level of efficiency for such purposes.

That would't work as well as you think if you can't put pressure and gas switches on the same tile.

[onebit]

That would be cool for CO2 scrubbers. Mine turns on when the O2 level is high.

[Masterpintsman]

6 hours ago, onebit said:

That would be cool for CO2 scrubbers. Mine turns on when the O2 level is high.

Which only can work relieable when you can make sure the no other gas of high pressure can invade the area of the atmo switch.

7 hours ago, AlexRou said:

hat would't work as well as you think if you can't put pressure and gas switches on the same tile.

He ment it in the sense of a room where the amount of CO2/hydrogen would lead to the gas reaching a certain level in the room (where the switch is mounted) as these two tend to clearly separate toward the bottom/top - so should the switch trigger you could be somewhat certain that everything below/above it will be solidly filled with CO2/hydrogen.

[eloy2030]

1 hour ago, Masterpintsman said:

Which only can work relieable when you can make sure the no other gas of high pressure can invade the area of the atmo switch.

He ment it in the sense of a room where the amount of CO2/hydrogen would lead to the gas reaching a certain level in the room (where the switch is mounted) as these two tend to clearly separate toward the bottom/top - so should the switch trigger you could be somewhat certain that everything below/above it will be solidly filled with CO2/hydrogen.

exactly. ty!

[AlexRou]

3 hours ago, Masterpintsman said:

He ment it in the sense of a room where the amount of CO2/hydrogen would lead to the gas reaching a certain level in the room (where the switch is mounted) as these two tend to clearly separate toward the bottom/top - so should the switch trigger you could be somewhat certain that everything below/above it will be solidly filled with CO2/hydrogen.

It would also trigger when a single pocket of gas flowing up/down just so happens to go over the switch and triggers it. Unless the switch only triggers if there is constantly gas x on that tile for a while.

Or maybe line them up in series so if a entire line is triggered yeah you can be 90% sure its all co2/h2 down/up.

[Kasuha]

59 minutes ago, AlexRou said:

It would also trigger when a single pocket of gas flowing up/down just so happens to go over the switch and triggers it.

So it would run for a second or two, then stop again. Not a big problem, it would still save a lot of power.

I agree with OP that this kind of switch would be useful. 

[AlexRou]

1 hour ago, Kasuha said:

So it would run for a second or two, then stop again. Not a big problem, it would still save a lot of power.

I agree with OP that this kind of switch would be useful. 

Was thinking of worse cases so didn't find them too useful. But when I figured if you put them in a line that means all of them must be triggered, then it would be super useful and won't even have those micro triggers.

[BlueLance]

I would also love this kind of switch for various reasons, It could also be coupled with an atmo switch to achieve great results.