Ideas about cooling in new update?

[CantBreathe]

With the new  update out, how do you guys create your cooling systems?

I was thinking of dumping my hot geyser water into a room of moving hydrogen that loops back to an air cooler. Does this still work or will the air cooler get too hot or not really cool the hydrogen down anymore?

Another idea was to keep the hot water in pipes and wind it though a room full of hydrogen that I pump out put through the air cooler and pump back in.

What do you guys think?

[Vilda]

I've tried cooling yesterday, it immediately shot up it's temperature and started to break. Then I remembered how I used to cool coal generators, worked after that. But needs and immediate stop, to check for the gas temperature. Once it cooled hydrogen so much, that the pipes burst, it went to a weird loop.

When I let the hydrogen in pipes warm and turned cooler on again, i immediately went to it's previous -250 temperature. Compiling stuff to make a report of it.

[CantBreathe]

1 hour ago, Vilda said:

I've tried cooling yesterday, it immediately shot up it's temperature and started to break. Then I remembered how I used to cool coal generators, worked after that. But needs and immediate stop, to check for the gas temperature. Once it cooled hydrogen so much, that the pipes burst, it went to a weird loop.

When I let the hydrogen in pipes warm and turned cooler on again, i immediately went to it's previous -250 temperature. Compiling stuff to make a report of it.

So did you find a solution? I really need a way to rapidly cool geyser water. I made a cooling system that works but much too slowly.

 

[Vilda]

I don't think that physics in game support something, that would feel "rapid" . Especially dealing with 90 °C water from a geyser. The cool hydrogen in pipes worked fairly well to cool my big tank to 30ish (until it broke). You can check the save in this thread

 

[heckubis]

I already posted this in bug but here is how I'm cooling water and the problem I'm incurring from it its only 1 geyserbut my pump cant keep up with it oh and I get 10c water energy cost 1 pump(Problem atm is pump cant keep up)

[heckubis]

and I'm running my regular closed system aircubes with 1 thermal regulator no looping(although I could)is modular expandable and never over heats parts this is only set to 300g/s at -61c atm but can easily set for any other temp . this little system eats Co2 for the measly upkeep of 240w just the air pump to keep system running. c o2 wanders in turns liquid. liquid stays liquid in abys pockets waiting for mass to be enough to be worth moving

[CantBreathe]

1 hour ago, heckubis said:

I already posted this in bug but here is how I'm cooling water and the problem I'm incurring from it 

its only 1 geyserbut my pump cant keep up with it oh and I get 10c water energy cost 1 pump(Problem atm is pump cant keep up)

Theres a lot going on there. How exactly are you cooling the water?

It looks like the geyser on the bottom of the image is pushing water up through the polluted water? 

[heckubis]

the bottom geyser isn't tapped I'm getting water from one above that shot by about 5 tiles. I'm using time and water mass to cool the steam water. it drops into each tank loss of temp happens  as mass is  added. extra water spills to next tank. added a second pump and I'm only beating the output by about 1k per second

[CantBreathe]

19 minutes ago, heckubis said:

the bottom geyser isn't tapped I'm getting water from one above that shot by about 5 tiles. I'm using time and water mass to cool the steam water. it drops into each tank loss of temp happens  as mass is  added. extra water spills to next tank. added a second pump and I'm only beating the output by about 1k per second

That's interesting, the geyser water is cooled because it falls into a larger pool? 

Is the entire pool 10C and the falling water doesn't bring the temp up? 

[heckubis]

2 minutes ago, CantBreathe said:

That's interesting, the geyser water is cooled because it falls into a larger pool? 

Is the entire pool 10C and the falling water doesn't bring the temp up? 

yah its more that the thermal mass of the larger pool wins conserving the tanks temperature each of the tanks is different temps the to p one sits at about 80 the second at 50 the final one is about 25

[CantBreathe]

1 minute ago, heckubis said:

yah its more that the thermal mass of the larger pool wins conserving the tanks temperature each of the tanks is different temps the to p one sits at about 80 the second at 50 the final one is about 25

That's interesting, I'd hate to have to build such large pools to cool it though.

What do you do with the liquid CO2?

[heckubis]

oh liquid co2 I usually store for later usage usually just store it in liquid just to keep it out of the way.but that's how I collect it. Mr happy is getting his hair did.

I could just pur it out on the steam water to cool it faster though using the co2 as a coolant spray just dripping it on the hot water recollecting it in the same way

 

[CantBreathe]

Hah it's a face I get it.

Thanks for your help. I'll post here if I got some more qstns.

[Lifegrow]

15 minutes ago, heckubis said:

oh liquid co2 I usually store for later usage usually just store it in liquid just to keep it out of the way.but that's how I collect it. Mr happy is getting his hair did.

I could just pur it out on the steam water to cool it faster though using the co2 as a coolant spray just dripping it on the hot water recollecting it in the same way

 

Mr. Smiley  He's back!

[heckubis]

5 minutes ago, Lifegrow said:

Mr. Smiley  He's back!

yah at the moment hes on a strict no chlorine diet. no heart burn problems. wow my dementia is fun at times he kind of looks like Usope from one piece just needs a longer nose

[Lifegrow]

6 hours ago, Vilda said:

I've tried cooling yesterday, it immediately shot up it's temperature and started to break. Then I remembered how I used to cool coal generators, worked after that. But needs and immediate stop, to check for the gas temperature. Once it cooled hydrogen so much, that the pipes burst, it went to a weird loop.

When I let the hydrogen in pipes warm and turned cooler on again, i immediately went to it's previous -250 temperature. Compiling stuff to make a report of it.

This. This is the current state. I fear the pipe-temp-change was fixed and then removed. Not sure why/when/how, but it was - See the thread that Vilda linked for further info.

To help your predicament though - cooling hydrogen and running it through your water in granite non-insulated pipes indeed still works - and even without the current temp-bug, it will work in the future with a few simple additions/tweaks.

Current state:

Run a cooled pipe of hydrogen through your geyser water, slap a valve on it, place a pump at the bottom of tank with a thermo switch set to your desired temperature, sit back and relax.

Future Fix (hopefully!):

Placing a split in your radiator, either with a bridge, a filter (my personal choice as it can be toggled with switches) or just a junction of pipe allows for some of the gas to be siphoned off to a single thermo regulator to handle the "warming up" of the gas within the pipes. This can then be fed back to the radiator and thus the cooling continues  

Hope this helps.

[CantBreathe]

Let's hope it's fixed soon. It would be nice to get a change log for each hotfix, no matter how small.

[IPRIT]

This setup still works.

The new water that emerges from the heyser instantly cools. The tepidizer is there so the water doesn't freeze.

[PickPay]

17 hours ago, IPRIT said:

This setup still works.

The new water that emerges from the heyser instantly cools. The tepidizer is there so the water doesn't freeze.

What's happening here ?

[Vilda]

well, the mass of water for one thing, that's clever. Not sure why the geyser continues to provide water, it should be overpressurized - maybe that "bubble" made by gas tile? And really not sure what is cooling it so much that it could freeze.

[IPRIT]

1 hour ago, Vilda said:

well, the mass of water for one thing, that's clever. Not sure why the geyser continues to provide water, it should be overpressurized - maybe that "bubble" made by gas tile? And really not sure what is cooling it so much that it could freeze.

Pump drains water from the very top of the heyser so it isn't overpressurised at least not always.

I am not sure, but I think that the way heyser works is that new water has the same qualities as its surroundings. With every new eruption the water in the tank gets colder until eventually it starts to freeze

[Vilda]

I the water might spawn hot but it cools in the mass. the main plus is probably that the really hot steam does not because it has no space.

1 hour ago, IPRIT said:

Pump drains water from the very top of the heyser so it isn't overpressurised at least not always.

That's the weird thing, it should drain from a tile 1 up from the geyser so the geyser tiles should be full.

[Pinstar]

Does the temperature of an electrolizer still determine the starting temp of the emitted O2/hydrogen?

[caffeinated21]

My solution is to not cool the water. Instead all my pipes are insulated or absyllte, and i build water consuming buildings out of Iron. A couple wheezeworts in the base and you're good to go. 

Only place you need cold water if for irrigating bristleblossoms (to maintain -3 - 3 degree temp). For this small quantity of water, I trickle water over compactors filled with ice and wheezeworts in an insulated room