DarkXero Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 http://dontstarve.wikia.com/wiki/Palm_Leaf_Hut Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/69567-yay-or-nay-buildings/page/2/#findComment-804108 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EuedeAdodooedoe Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 2 hours ago, EinRobot said: In my opinion any further advanced structures would be kind of easy mode. The tent is already almost OP. Even roofs? And I would disagree that the tent is OP. Considering that it takes away a bunch of hunger for exchange of sanity and health and only has 5 uses, is static, can only be using during dusk or night AND you need to wait and do nothing to recover all of those stats, where as with something like taffy and pierogis you can do that pretty quickly. Most people barely use them or don't even use them at all, you know. Having roofs in could make things seem more homely and it would actually make sense. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/69567-yay-or-nay-buildings/page/2/#findComment-804113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EinRobot Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 13 minutes ago, EuedeAdodooedoe said: Even roofs? And I would disagree that the tent is OP. Considering that it takes away a bunch of hunger for exchange of sanity and health and only has 5 uses, is static, can only be using during dusk or night AND you need to wait and do nothing to recover all of those stats, where as with something like taffy and pierogis you can do that pretty quickly. Most people barely use them or don't even use them at all, you know. Having roofs in could make things seem more homely and it would actually make sense. The tent very quickly raises sanity and health. It also dries you out quickly. All that in exchange for a couple meatballs is very very powerful. A spider farm makes the expense cheap. You hit on the reason I would not want more. You say it would make the game more "homely" which to me is not what a survival game is about. I don't want to feel "at home" I want challenging survival gameplay. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/69567-yay-or-nay-buildings/page/2/#findComment-804115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EuedeAdodooedoe Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 7 minutes ago, EinRobot said: The tent very quickly raises sanity and hunger. It also dries you out quickly. All that in exchange for a couple meatballs is very very powerful. A spider farm makes the expense cheap. You hit on the reason I would not want more. You say it would make the game more "homely" which to me is not what a survival game is about. I don't want to feel "at home" I want challenging survival gameplay. But that's what you would do if you were to survive for some time outside, stranded somewhere, be it in other survival games or irl. It just doesn't make sense to just have a tent for cover and that's it. It's kind of like saying "I don't want to feel ready for combat, I want to fight hard" and then going to fight a Dragonfly without armour and using your fist to punch her to death. Yeah, that's very smart. And I'm sure after the many hundreds of days Wilson and others have been there, they would logically make at least a tiny house with roofs. It simply makes sense, if you're camping somewhere for a long time, otherwise the whole lore is just, well, like "what the heck, Klei? +100 sins for this illogical predicament". I really don't know how to explain it, but yeah, at the end of the day it just makes sense. Nobody in their right mind, unless forced to by someone (or in terms of games the game mechanics) would settle for hundreds, thousands of days or even the rest of their life with having no roof on top of where they're camping for the protection of heat, cold and the rain. Oh and the wind as well. Logically, it's stupid to not have this, but take what you will from it, I digress. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/69567-yay-or-nay-buildings/page/2/#findComment-804116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EinRobot Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 It's a game, not real life. Things don't have to "make sense irl". I am sure that if you were really surviving irl you probably would not be fighting werepigs either. So should klei take them out because it "doesn't make sense"? you have said that houses exist in other survival games. So Klei did it differently, kudos to them. They have made an outstanding game that doesn't just copy other mechanics from other games. Anyway petition away at it if you like, just don't get all bothered when others have different views and won't come over to your side. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/69567-yay-or-nay-buildings/page/2/#findComment-804118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKingDedede Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 10 hours ago, CaptainChaotica said: Oh, so the Dragonfly is the Don't Starve universe's version of Trogdor? I can get behind that. : P Only one man... er, dragon-man, can burninate the peasants and the land when burnation has forsaken the countryside.... AND HIS NAME IS TROGDOOOOOOOR! The DragonFly can barely show those thatched roof cottages what for. Her measly fire stomp does not impress me and has failed to end my game at every turn. Better luck next time, you orange butterfly. Now, enough of the Trogdor memes. Let him go down etched into the tree bark of history. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/69567-yay-or-nay-buildings/page/2/#findComment-804123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arlesienne Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 4 hours ago, EinRobot said: It's a game, not real life. Things don't have to "make sense irl". I am sure that if you were really surviving irl you probably would not be fighting werepigs either. Nooo? Here die my wildest dreams... 5 hours ago, DarkXero said: http://dontstarve.wikia.com/wiki/Palm_Leaf_Hut Oh, exactly something like this! 6 hours ago, Nicolews said: As far as I'm concerned : Yay for a single structure that behave exactly like a fully grown tree, as far as providing rain and heat protection goes. At most, a pair of structures, one being flammable (self-combusting in summer), while the other is built from stone and won't catch fire. It won't break any balance, since there's already something that provide those exact advantages in the game. The only mechanical advantages is that it wouldn't "reset" every so often like trees do, and that the stone version wouldn't self-combust in summer. Nay for anything more powerful than that. So like my thinking. I am surprised people think in a similar way. I disagree with the idea of HOUSES, but a bit of simple cosmetic structures would be fun. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/69567-yay-or-nay-buildings/page/2/#findComment-804189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlternateMew Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 For normal Don't Starve, I don't know how I'd feel about it. Kind of weird? I wouldn't say Yay or Nay without seeing how Klei would add it, but leaning towards nay. For DST, I feel it would definitely make more sense. They now have a larger team of people. The brains and the brawn, able to work together. Also, more of a need for a house than a single person would. I would want it to be something like that, too - a cooperative-only structure. Maybe give some characters the ability to make blueprints, like Wilson, Wickerbottom, and Maxwell, while having other characters who can actually build the thing with the blueprints, i.e. Wolfgang, Woodie, Wigfrid, Webber. For style, let each blueprint character have a slightly different design, and each builder have different preferred materials. I'm uh... shooting ideas out of nowhere, here. Probably bad ones. And lore-wise, if they intend to leave that nightmare of a world, perhaps they wouldn't want a homestead that implies they're officially living there. Forever. Together forever. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/69567-yay-or-nay-buildings/page/2/#findComment-804979 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arlesienne Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Houses like the modded ones, nope. An ability to make slightly more durable shelters - pretty much extendable lean-tos or tents - sure, though they must not be OP. I believe a tent or a siestahut to be the most one can gain from such structures (and as I fear things being OP, I would add less protection from the elements, bigger mobs being able to break them - the inhabitant takes damage if inside - and a chance of combustion). Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/69567-yay-or-nay-buildings/page/2/#findComment-805053 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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