Other Characters' Back Stories?

[minespatch]

13 minutes ago, MissCharlie said:

(Emotional confession time...)...I HEADCANON WAGSTAFF AS LIVING INSIDE WX A LA WEBBER! Viva la revolución...

I first heard about Wagstaff living inside of WX-78 from @Arlesienne (: As far as WX being Wilson's experiment I have no idea where I first read it, I just know that I've seen it several times since

I'm fine with the Wagstaff theory but the wilson Experiment thing is pretty new to me. I imagine Wilson being his doctor every now and again to fix any faulty parts in the New Reign setting but being his creator just kind of took my head for a rubberneck.

[MissCharlie]

10 minutes ago, minespatch said:

I'm fine with the Wagstaff theory but the wilson Experiment thing is pretty new to me. I imagine Wilson being his doctor every now and again to fix any faulty parts in the New Reign setting but being his creator just kind of took my head for a rubberneck.

Oh! I guess I thought that theory was was more prevalent? That's interesting...*proceeds to scour internet for WX origins*

[MissCharlie]

Where is @inhumanrobot, I feel like they would have a better grasp on this theory--LOL

[Arlesienne]

9 hours ago, MissCharlie said:

(And, honestly, Maxwell, I feel, is not exclusively heterosexual. I mean really-have you read his quotes?)

Highlight them please. Not quite getting you.

9 hours ago, MissCharlie said:

WX78- Experiment? I, unfortunately, don't know much about WX78. I've heard that he's the creator of the radio living inside WX, a la Webber. I've also heard he was Wilson's experiment.

Was that here?

3 hours ago, MissCharlie said:

I first heard about Wagstaff living inside of WX-78 from @Arlesienne (: As far as WX being Wilson's experiment I have no idea where I first read it, I just know that I've seen it several times since

Ah, my licentia poetica ramblings for Project Rosebud.

I had a giant post made, then the forums decided to undo it. So tag me again at some point, I'll talk about Wolfgang, Wes, Webber, Willow and WX. One thing immediately...

On 10/11/2016 at 9:49 PM, ExtollerOfTrolls said:

I don't understand why WX always says that the fire "REMINDS ME OF SOMETHING". What could that mean? Am I just missing the point?

When shamelessly indulging in headcanoning with WX-Wagstaff, I have little doubt he's referencing the fire that broke out. 77 (the number of "close infinity" in semiotics) impressive works of technology, the 78th one being their inventor himself after Maxwell first started the fire, then took the half-dead Wagstaff to Wilson's lab and had the enthralled wannabe scientist test his new forbidden knowledge on him.

[minespatch]

1 hour ago, Arlesienne said:

When shamelessly indulging in headcanoning with WX-Wagstaff, I have little doubt he's referencing the fire that broke out. 77 (the number of "close infinity" in semiotics) impressive works of technology, the 78th one being their inventor himself after Maxwell first started the fire, then took the half-dead Wagstaff to Wilson's lab and had the enthralled wannabe scientist test his new forbidden knowledge on him.

Wait a sec... WX is... LIKE THE AMAZING SCREW ON HEAD?!
 

^{Aaauugggghhaaaaaaaahhhaaaahhhh}

[CaptainChaotica]

Well, I don't know the Amazing Screw-On Head, but here are a few responses to random things said since the last time I visited this thread (which was approximately...half-past forever ago):

--Webber from the '90s?  Oh, no.  Honey, no.  This game has LOTS of out-of-time references; it doesn't mean the characters _know_ those things. It means the devs were making a cheeky sly little joke to the players.  Example:  Wilson says that a log is "big, heavy, and wood" but do you ACTUALLY think he watched Ren and Stimpy, or lived in a time after it aired to hear other people reference it?

...well, maybe some of you _do_ think that.  I myself stick by the idea that they're all from different places on Earth but around the same time...ish...say within the same decade as each other...except Wes and Wolfgang who were brought over earlier.  Webber might indeed also be one of those _earlier_ ones. But in general...I just have this instant skin-crawling knee-jerk NO! reaction to the idea of any of them coming from _anywhere near_ modern day.  Why?

Because THAT'S how you start down the road of "ordinary kid from the real world ends up in this world", aka, MARY FREAKING SUES.

Also it's boring. A big part of the charm of this game is that it's old-fashioned!  Don't bring your evil cell phones here, nooooo!  Mods sure, canon no.

--Wilson made WX?  I've always been opposed to this one too, mainly because (a) Wilson doesn't seem to be that great of an inventor (b) it takes away the mystery of WX's origin and (c) when Wilson first sees the portal, his reaction suggests that this is the FIRST time he's seen something that weird.  Do you think he'd be as freaked out if he was a genius mad scientist capable of building sentient robots?

Who did build WX?  I dunno.  Wagstaff if you must, I have no opinion--WX is WX and he came from...someone not in the story at all, probably.  Someone who's probably dead.  How do you think WX GOT free to wander around on his own, eh?  EMPATHY CHIP NOT RESPONDING.

--If we're gonna start saying the Don't Starve universe takes place ANYwhere in the real world...first of all obviously not, unless this is one of the way, way, way to the "side" iterations of The Long Earth (which in MY headcanon....maaaaaayyyybe?) This world doesn't have magic monsters rampaging all around; we would've heard of it by now.  There'd be headlines.  And probably also selfies of some idiot standing right next to a fire hound.

Secondly if you're gonna say it's a specific place...well hell, where I live has just as much claim as many other places!  I mean, let's look at this:  In the summer it can regularly go over 100 degrees (no kidding, the high  every day was over 100 degrees...for THREE. WEEKS.  STRAIGHT this very summer, 2016)...AND hit single digits in the winter for weeks at a time, in the same year (which happened last year).  Sounds familiar right...both extremes, right?

But the Don't Starve universe SO doesn't take place in Utah.  : P  If that's silly, then so is any other real-world location.  Sure, deserts are really extreme. But again, _no magic_ or weird hybrid creatures or clocwork chess-robots.   The DEVS live in Canada.  The _characters_ do not.

Except Woodie, who once did.  

(And possibly also Lucy, if she used to be human and my opinion on that is yes.)

...Notorious

[Arlesienne]

9 hours ago, CaptainChaotica said:

--Webber from the '90s?  Oh, no.  Honey, no.  This game has LOTS of out-of-time references; it doesn't mean the characters _know_ those things. It means the devs were making a cheeky sly little joke to the players.  Example:  Wilson says that a log is "big, heavy, and wood" but do you ACTUALLY think he watched Ren and Stimpy, or lived in a time after it aired to hear other people reference it?

Ditto.

9 hours ago, CaptainChaotica said:

--If we're gonna start saying the Don't Starve universe takes place ANYwhere in the real world...first of all obviously not, unless this is one of the way, way, way to the "side" iterations of The Long Earth (which in MY headcanon....maaaaaayyyybe?) This world doesn't have magic monsters rampaging all around; we would've heard of it by now.  There'd be headlines.  And probably also selfies of some idiot standing right next to a fire hound.

 

There are, and we call them "politicians".

14 hours ago, minespatch said:

Wait a sec... WX is... LIKE THE AMAZING SCREW ON HEAD?!
 

^{Aaauugggghhaaaaaaaahhhaaaahhhh}

M-m-maybe...? Perhaps? Don't know the context, sorry.

EDIT:

Here goes what I wanted to say before I lost the text, sans WX remembering the fire in Wagstaff's radio factory.

On 13.10.2016 at 3:25 PM, Tainted-Petals said:

Also I genuinely think Wolfgang is Russian (his accent is poor though, like, bad media  representation of Russians poor), but his comment about the sickle and hammer make sense.  It's actual inception happened in 1917, which means very few people at the time outside of Russia would have known about it.  And I mean, you can't say just because he makes that quip about frog legs he's French, because I could easily make the claim that it implies he's Chinese or Indonesian, where frog legs are also wildly popular.

This is a very viable point I'm using for my headcanon.

At the time, the movement was known in Russia and its neighbours... Poland, specifically. Read on as I ramble about Wolf below.

On 11.10.2016 at 7:50 PM, Doggy_Davis said:

Woodlegs doesn't seem to be an especially popular character, but I do have a theory for him. I think that, like how Wigfrid isn't actually a viking, Woodlegs isn't an actual pirate, but rather an old man who always wanted to be one, which is how he was tempted into the Don't Starve world. 

An aged mariner no longer fit to sail? Sad ...

On 12.10.2016 at 7:41 PM, Silentdarkness1 said:

Ahhhh.....this marvelous topic again.

Well, people above me have already stated all the canonical facts and lore and stuff like that.

As for Wendy and Abigail, I would probably go something a bit different from the Rule-Of-Drama thing stated earlier. Similar, but a bit different.

My personal opinion on it seems to be 'Abigail died in an accident and said accident gave Wendy a dark, dim view of the world.'. She doesn't have to be speaking of the guilt. To me, that guilt might even manifest with Abby haunting that flower.

It was a moleworm accident, hence Abigail obsessively-compulsively attacks harmless moles.

On 11.10.2016 at 9:49 PM, ExtollerOfTrolls said:

I agree with the Wolfgang and Wes being circus performers, though I don't necessarily know if they were in the same circus. Wolfgang definitely seems like he's a foreigner. He doesn't necessarily have to be Russian, and Klei probably was going for just, "European foreigner." Maybe it was intended to be Russian, maybe not.

For own purposes, I picked Poland as the melting pot of German, French and Russian influences. In my headcanon, Wolf comes from a szaraczkowa szlachta family proud of its blood ties to actual aristocracy of Germany and France, Napoleonic conquests and chevaux-légers fighting (blahblahblah, traditional bragging follows). Expected to uphold the family's values (gee, he's even named after one of his German relatives!), he's fluent in German, French and Russian apart from his Polish, aware of the changes both in his homeland and the other countries and a former chevaux-léger.

Wes as a long-lasting friendship with Wolfgang; they originally met in Marseille where Wolfgang's family emigrated with the difficult political situation of Poland:  the chevaux-léger became one of his most avid fans contributing to much of his fame, French as his second language allowing him to write in his unit's journal and gather crowds of off-duty soldiers, then a friend and confidante, the two growing extremely close to the point of Wolfgang following Wes to America, unsuccessfully attempting to join the army like in Poland and France, ultimately with his failure joining the circus Wes began performing in; anything Wes says is the ultimate truth to Wolfgang.

Wolf's friendship with Wes runs deep. If not for Wolf, Wes would have likely ended much worse than just robbed and left with hardly any change after the invitation to a tournee of the States turned out some human trafficking business. Wolf couldn't stand parting with Wes, so he left the French Foreign Legion, followed him and ended up in America. With no funds, they had to temporarily join a provincial travelling circus after Wolfgang's only cursory knowledge of English proved not enough to conscript himself in the American army.

After the wagon crash, they were separated. Wolfgang used the last savings he had to reach San Francisco after the rumours of Wes going there. Before finding him, he started working as a janitor at the San Francisco Public Library where Wickerbottom worked. She was one of the few who knew his actual cultured self thanks to speaking French and German, others believing him a simple immigrant due to not speaking English well. (Sparks flew, for my players are dead-set on Wolfbottom/Wickergang.) Meanwhile Wes had managed to make quite a name for himself, stealing the more sophisticated of Maxwell's fans. The two had developed something of a mutual rivalry with a lot of begrudging respect.

Wolfgang and Wes meet again when Charlie takes over. Same with Wickerbottom.

On 11.10.2016 at 9:49 PM, ExtollerOfTrolls said:

Wes could just not be talking to stay in character, similar to Wigfrid, who probably can eat things besides meat, but refuses it because of her act. (It would be interesting if you could eat fruit when you were in complete darkness, as she does say, "And the curtain falls.") But he could be mute. *Shrugs*

My headcanon?

- As a mime, he HAD to be charismatic. The shy Wes you see in his setpiece is the effect of being trapped and tormented, in an elaborate trap a la Prometheus, constantly hungering, never dying, and bereft of his voice (so no aphonia; he regains his voice after Maxwell's reign comes to an end). In my headcanon, he actually comes to lead the transients, but it's irrelevant.

- The second transient: after Webber does not work out, Maxwell thinks about the rival performer whose determination he begrudgingly admires. Determined and cunning, Wes manages to complete the obstacle course Maxwell sets up for him, with a hearty dose of bragging too, yet decides Maxwell too dangerous to be freed; the puppet king's rage puts Wes into an elaborate trap a la Prometheus. "What? He displeased me!"...

- Wes is friends with Wilson after the latter freed him, but his bestie is Wolfgang since they have known each other for years beforehand.

On 11.10.2016 at 9:49 PM, ExtollerOfTrolls said:

Willow was an orphan. Seems to be the popular theory, and there is a skin for it, though we know she was in Girl Scouts, too. Hmmm. I really, really doubt Willow is Wilson's niece, due to the fact Wilson used to just call her "the pyromaniac". Besides, though DS is not really a game for direct interaction, doesn't Wilson just say to her, "Greetings, Willow!" That would be a really weird way to greet your niece. He's only roughly ten years older than her, anyway.

Exactly! In fact, Wilson is in his early thirties, Willow - early twenties. That's anything between 30-35 and 20-25, really. The age gap may be as small as five years.

Her pyromania may have been sparked by parental abandonment. It's a common cause as various studies imply. Lack of affection in an orphanage would have only worsened her condition. She could have figured fire was the only source of warmth she had access to. Girl Scouts could have been just some voluntary service.

On 11.10.2016 at 9:49 PM, ExtollerOfTrolls said:

Wilson is not necessarily British. I don't know where that assumption comes from... What's wrong with him being American? I mean, there's nothing wrong with him being British, either, but Klei seems to enjoy making the cultural differences evident in characters, such as Woodie's frequent "eh"s and Webber's use of "mum" and such, so either he's been in America for a while, or he always stayed there.

Then again, Maxwell is apparently British and he doesn't talk that way very much...? So for Wilson, maybe... but still unlikely.

William wanted to be famous and disliked himself, hence the Amazing Maxwell persona, almost comical americanisms, the M as a W flipped upside down. Wilson has so far shown no indicators of being British. William being British is canon through the puzzles.

 

[minespatch]

4 hours ago, Arlesienne said:

M-m-maybe...? Perhaps? Don't know the context, sorry.

The various bodies for WX remind me of how Screw-on head has to keep changing bodies for his head. So I was just running with the idea.

[Arlesienne]

4 hours ago, minespatch said:

The various bodies for WX remind me of how Screw-on head has to keep changing bodies for his head. So I was just running with the idea.

Well, he sure is yellow too!

#TriesHardMilord