verm1ll1on Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Well, it's quite common to see servers with few players during winter. That happens because other people don't usually join during Winter and others who aren't good enough tend to leave the game early Winter. So when Spring comes, the server is low on players and new people tend to come in. They can simply start a vote to restore the world, since they're losing nothing and Autumn is easier to start in. They tend to win, since post-winter comers commonly are majority. Isn't it a bit fooked up to, so easily, be able to restore a world and throw away everything everyone else had built? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/68821-voting-for-restarting-the-server/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
EuedeAdodooedoe Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 Ladies and gentlemen, I present to yee the solution to this problem: Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/68821-voting-for-restarting-the-server/#findComment-792217 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clwnbaby Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 This is a terrible idea! As I can see it, your idea is to allow a vote to just make the server permanent autumn cause the other seasons are "too hard :(." I've played on MANY PUBLIC servers that go +100 days and people always come and go. You want to know when we get the most people in the server regardless of day count? Autumn. Basically the player base rather than tackle the challenge of the other seasons opt to play just 1 all the time and if thats what they want to do go play on an autumn only server. Don't ruin EVERY server because people don't learn how to play the game. I like all the seasons and it doesn't even start getting fun until winter starts PLUS its bad enough my hard work gets reset all the time, I don't want some vote system that ruins it even easier while Im still playing. So no, no there should never be nor should it ever be considered to create a "vote to restart" server option. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/68821-voting-for-restarting-the-server/#findComment-792280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schism_989 Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 A vote restart option. A group of trolls join the server They start the vote They win. Everyone's hard work they didn't want gone is gone. I think I've made my point. EDIT: To make myself sound less snarky, I'll say it isn't like TF2 where if the server restarts nothing is really lost, but in Don't Starve, you work hard on what you make. This setting could be easily abused. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/68821-voting-for-restarting-the-server/#findComment-792299 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EuedeAdodooedoe Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 Well... everyone's hard work gets reset anyway by newbies, bored players and simply by someone who sees that nobody is online and resets the server (I know a certain someone like that >_>). Either we're asking too much from DST and it's not supposed to be a game where if you play forever you'll find something new every time or the game needs significant change to solve this problem. And I'm talking about resetting in general. Unless programs learn to program things, draw art, make excellent animations by themselves, this doesn't seem feasible to me. But even so... would we even want it to happen? Our creativity might even have no point anymore and then what are we supposed to do to satisfy our hole in life? Jesus? Ugh, where the hell did I dig myself into. Anyway, back to the topic... >_> Edit: But what do you guys think about the idea I suggested? About stopping newbies from joining during harsh seasons by default by setting server list to show only the ones that are currently in Autumn? Could save a lot of trouble and then only the most experienced players or those know some bit more about the game would join servers at the risk of dying. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/68821-voting-for-restarting-the-server/#findComment-792302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clwnbaby Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 35 minutes ago, EuedeAdodooedoe said: About stopping newbies from joining during harsh seasons by default by setting server list to show only the ones that are currently in Autumn? Yeah they should know how to do that already and read for that matter. Everyone always joins the server and says "oh hey its such and such season?" to which the answer is always "yeah you should know that before joining," to which they always answer "i didn't look." The moral of the story? Surprisingly given our advanced day and age with all that is available to us and the countless hours gamers spend gaming nearly every one of them is too stupid to figure out what and how to read. This isn't a noob vs veteran problem this is an intelligence and reasoning problem which modern gamers seem to lack in excess. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/68821-voting-for-restarting-the-server/#findComment-792314 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rezecib Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 6 hours ago, Clwnbaby said: So no, no there should never be nor should it ever be considered to create a "vote to restart" server option. ??? There already is one. That's what this post is about. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/68821-voting-for-restarting-the-server/#findComment-792425 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asparagus Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 That's the thing with public servers... everyone and anyone can get in... I mean, if you want to have a world that you pour your heart into and want to last, why not make a server with friends you know and have a password on it? I generally go to public servers to scout out new talent that could be potential survivors... I can play with... if they're willing to learn, we teach, but if they don't well, sad to say even I just go to the other side of the map and hide in my hermit camp only going to meet other players if we need to trade supplies or goods... (I like pretending to be a shopkeeper/wandering salesman ok? XD) So yeah... no to the voting to restart a server... if they want to reset a world and people's progress, they should pay with their blood... (i.e. be ghosts O__O) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/68821-voting-for-restarting-the-server/#findComment-792433 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyiltiz Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 45 minutes ago, rezecib said: ??? There already is one. That's what this post is about. Yeah, it seems the OP was concerned that this option was ridiculous, as agreed by everyone following this post. Who the hell in Klei came up with this another brilliant voting idea? Doesn't the guy with fancy hair shows us how ridiculous voting could get? Seriously, I thought his mocks were enough already for anything that concerns voting. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/68821-voting-for-restarting-the-server/#findComment-792453 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyiltiz Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 36 minutes ago, Asparagus said: That's the thing with public servers... everyone and anyone can get in... I mean, if you want to have a world that you pour your heart into and want to last, why not make a server with friends you know and have a password on it? I generally go to public servers to scout out new talent that could be potential survivors... I can play with... if they're willing to learn, we teach, but if they don't well, sad to say even I just go to the other side of the map and hide in my hermit camp only going to meet other players if we need to trade supplies or goods... (I like pretending to be a shopkeeper/wandering salesman ok? XD) So yeah... no to the voting to restart a server... if they want to reset a world and people's progress, they should pay with their blood... (i.e. be ghosts O__O) Speaking of shopkeeper, it reminds me of Necro. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/68821-voting-for-restarting-the-server/#findComment-792454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
verm1ll1on Posted July 14, 2016 Author Share Posted July 14, 2016 It's not a matter of "world will be reseted anyways" and not allowing people to join a PUBLIC server is not the way to go. I think the unanimous voting system is a great idea of this particular matter, but only for this. The rules for kicking players and rolling the world back should remain the same, but for reseting the world, EVERYONE should say yes. Oh, and the system would only count those who voted for something, so people not voting wouldn't interfere. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/68821-voting-for-restarting-the-server/#findComment-792473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EuedeAdodooedoe Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 7 hours ago, verm1ll1on said: It's not a matter of "world will be reseted anyways" and not alloo people to join a PUBLIC ser. Tver is not the way to go. I think the unanimous voting system is a great idea of this particular matter, but only for this. The rules for kicking players and rolling the world back should remain the same, but for reseting the world, EVERYONE should say yes. Oh, and the system would only count those who voted for something, so people not voting wouldn't interfere. Although in that case there would need to be a majority vote at least anyway as well as a delay in voting to reset the world because otherwise someone could keep voting Yes on theirnown and everyone would need to be on their toes to keep voting no. @Clwnbaby I would agree and because of this having what I proposed in place is a mustto stop newbies who know nothing joining during a harsh season and then keep dying or sticking to firepit like glue until they inevitably starve and ragequit. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/68821-voting-for-restarting-the-server/#findComment-792550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
verm1ll1on Posted July 14, 2016 Author Share Posted July 14, 2016 3 hours ago, EuedeAdodooedoe said: Although in that case there would need to be a majority vote at least anyway as well as a delay in voting to reset the world because otherwise someone could keep voting Yes on theirnown and everyone would need to be on their toes to keep voting no. @Clwnbaby I would agree and because of this having what I proposed in place is a mustto stop newbies who know nothing joining during a harsh season and then keep dying or sticking to firepit like glue until they inevitably starve and ragequit. Then what if it has to be unanimous between those who voted and it needs at least 3 votes to be considered? So even if 1 person tries to vote for it every 20 seconds, others don't have to bother, except for a little screen popping up once in a while. Maybe auto-kick a player who's been proposing the same voting too often? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/68821-voting-for-restarting-the-server/#findComment-792577 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asparagus Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 inb4, you're the last one in the server and you're keeping the world up until your friends can come back in your 160+ days server and 4 newbies come in and vote to restart... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/68821-voting-for-restarting-the-server/#findComment-792594 Share on other sites More sharing options...
verm1ll1on Posted July 14, 2016 Author Share Posted July 14, 2016 7 minutes ago, Asparagus said: inb4, you're the last one in the server and you're keeping the world up until your friends can come back in your 160+ days server and 4 newbies come in and vote to restart... Well, in that case, the argument "public server aren't meant to last forever" is valid, I guess. I don't think it's fair to keep holding a public server for a specific group of people just because they spent a lot of time there. I mean, if you're between friends and really wanna go for long runs, you should probably host your own server or share the expenses to hire one. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/68821-voting-for-restarting-the-server/#findComment-792721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asparagus Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 1 hour ago, Storm137 said: I'm honestly not sure why everyone worries about spring. If you avoid the Goose you're pretty much set since summer's giant is in her own arena. If you have a parasol or umbrella you tend to do just fine even if you never managed to kill Deerclops for the Eyebrella. Well, yeah it's easy... but if you're a newbie and you joined IN Spring (i.e. most of the stuff's already gone like flint and flowers) then the rain and wetness sanity drain will be a bit tough... joined a public server and it was heavy rain in spring once... no flowers in sight to make a parasol... good thing I got a pig skin from a werepig and just made an umbrella... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/68821-voting-for-restarting-the-server/#findComment-792738 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asparagus Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 1 hour ago, verm1ll1on said: Well, in that case, the argument "public server aren't meant to last forever" is valid, I guess. I don't think it's fair to keep holding a public server for a specific group of people just because they spent a lot of time there. I mean, if you're between friends and really wanna go for long runs, you should probably host your own server or share the expenses to hire one. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/68821-voting-for-restarting-the-server/#findComment-792739 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asparagus Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/68821-voting-for-restarting-the-server/#findComment-792741 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GentlemanFridge Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 This might not be a good idea, but what if 'older' players (with a higher amount of survived days) get priority over the 'newly spawned'? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/68821-voting-for-restarting-the-server/#findComment-793472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuyNamedChris Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 9 hours ago, WishIHadAFridge said: This might not be a good idea, but what if 'older' players (with a higher amount of survived days) get priority over the 'newly spawned'? Nah. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/68821-voting-for-restarting-the-server/#findComment-793660 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EuedeAdodooedoe Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 3 hours ago, Chris1488 said: Nah. The ultimate way of all sciencing and reasoning Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/68821-voting-for-restarting-the-server/#findComment-793731 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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