stl1234 Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Snake oil is a cute joke. The problem I have with it is that it does not stack in inventory. Later in the game, when snakes from a den keep fighting other mobs, snake oil naturally accumulates. I'd like to be able to clean it up, but that becomes a ridiculous effort since the snake oil does not stack in the inventory. Separately, and less importantly, since the topic is snake oil, I'd like to suggest the joke to be extended. I think it would be appropriate, and funny, if the players could become snake oil salespeople. This could be simply achieved by having the Wildbores (and Pigs) accept snake oil given to them. When they are given one, they should do the happy pig dance, or at least comment about how the like the player character. This wouldn't (/shouldn't) befriend them or produce manure, it is just there for the purpose of the joke. It is also possible to extend the idea above: they could have a chance to actually pay for the snake oil given to them, with either rot (20%), seashells (5%) or dubloons (0.1%). But this gives a (very inefficient and not very meaningful) use for snake oil, however, still within the boundaries of exactly what snake oil is. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/65824-can-cnake-oil-stack-in-inventory-pretty-please/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
voyager156 Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Nice idea Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/65824-can-cnake-oil-stack-in-inventory-pretty-please/#findComment-739877 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grekon Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Wait, so whats the joke? Can you explain more about what the hell is this snake oil supposed to mean? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/65824-can-cnake-oil-stack-in-inventory-pretty-please/#findComment-739889 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoloMan Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Just now, grekon said: Wait, so whats the joke? Can you explain more about what the hell is this snake oil supposed to mean? Snake oil is an expression that originally referred to fraudulent health products or unproven medicine but has come to refer to any product with questionable or unverifiable quality or benefit. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/65824-can-cnake-oil-stack-in-inventory-pretty-please/#findComment-739891 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oCrapaCreeper Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 40 minutes ago, grekon said: Wait, so whats the joke? Can you explain more about what the hell is this snake oil supposed to mean? Think of some classic wild west story where some salesman claims drinking some product improves your eyesight , relieves pain, etc but really is just stuff that doesn't do anything. The joke with snake oil is that it looks like something that would do something but really is just completely useless. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/65824-can-cnake-oil-stack-in-inventory-pretty-please/#findComment-739911 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoQuitting Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 On the contrary, giving the Pigmen the snake oil SHOULD make them your friend! +25 naughtiness. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/65824-can-cnake-oil-stack-in-inventory-pretty-please/#findComment-740210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer ImDaMisterL Posted March 28, 2016 Developer Share Posted March 28, 2016 Spoiler "WHAT YOU HAVE?" "IS GOOD THING!" "BACK HURTS LESS!" "PIG SEES BETTER!" "YOU HAVE MORE?" "TASTE LIKE WATER" Pigmen! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/65824-can-cnake-oil-stack-in-inventory-pretty-please/#findComment-740213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stl1234 Posted March 28, 2016 Author Share Posted March 28, 2016 29 minutes ago, NoQuitting said: On the contrary, giving the Pigmen the snake oil SHOULD make them your friend! +25 naughtiness. I thought about this too. 25 seems high, given killing them outright gives far less, but this action of tricking semi-intelligent beings should be naughty. I didn't add it to the original post because now this becomes actually useful. Still, it is a rather rare item, so maybe that's okay? Or maybe they wouldn't accept more than one in a given amount of time, that may work too. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/65824-can-cnake-oil-stack-in-inventory-pretty-please/#findComment-740232 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingerbread Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 well joke is fine but it should have a use. I mean totally useless item does not make any sense for this game (i mean all items got some use in the game except this item). at least it should be used somewhere like altar of snackrifice or give a fuel value so that it can be used instead of some fuels.. It does not have to be a really high fuel value but at least something like twigs.. so stackable snake oil with real fuel value Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/65824-can-cnake-oil-stack-in-inventory-pretty-please/#findComment-741081 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oCrapaCreeper Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 23 minutes ago, Gingerbread said: well joke is fine but it should have a use. I mean totally useless item does not make any sense for this game (i mean all items got some use in the game except this item). at least it should be used somewhere like altar of snackrifice or give a fuel value so that it can be used instead of some fuels.. It does not have to be a really high fuel value but at least something like twigs.. so stackable snake oil with real fuel value It's an easter egg, of course it makes sense for it to have no use. Even some of the comments in the code say they don't want it to be useful. Nothing more than a joke, just like the Powder Cake. "--Used for snakeoil. We don't want it to actually do anything." Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/65824-can-cnake-oil-stack-in-inventory-pretty-please/#findComment-741085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stl1234 Posted March 30, 2016 Author Share Posted March 30, 2016 It does have a 0 fuel value. While it is not providing you any benefits, fire pits or chimineas provide an easy way to dispose of excess snake oil. Or rather they would have, if we could collect the ones laying around in one go. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/65824-can-cnake-oil-stack-in-inventory-pretty-please/#findComment-741086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingerbread Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 3 minutes ago, oCrapaCreeper said: Doesn't need to have a use. It's just an easter egg. Even some of the comments in the code say they don't want it to be useful. Nothing more than a joke. "--Used for snakeoil. We don't want it to actually do anything." not really like that.. It is currently not functional.. That does not mean it will stay like that. Here. It is pretty much like divining rod in dst. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/65824-can-cnake-oil-stack-in-inventory-pretty-please/#findComment-741087 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oCrapaCreeper Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 1 minute ago, Gingerbread said: not really like that.. It is currently not functional.. Probably they will add some use of it. Here That's because its ability to cure poison is intentionally disabled, thus not being consumed. inst:AddComponent("poisonhealer") inst.components.poisonhealer.enabled = false Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/65824-can-cnake-oil-stack-in-inventory-pretty-please/#findComment-741089 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingerbread Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 for now :). never know the future. divining rod in dst does nothing too but it is an item. These games are still being developped. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/65824-can-cnake-oil-stack-in-inventory-pretty-please/#findComment-741091 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oCrapaCreeper Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Just now, Gingerbread said: for now :). never know the future. It's more or less meant to be a joke to people who dig into code to see if it actually had anything of relevance, otherwise the poisonhealer code wouldn't be there. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/65824-can-cnake-oil-stack-in-inventory-pretty-please/#findComment-741092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingerbread Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 yeah. but that does not imply they wont add some codes that would make it useful. It is still being developed and they listen community I witnessed this alot.. For example, monkey drops were alot I complained about that in the forums, a lot of people were against that but in the end they changed, now monkeys drop either banana or morsel. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/65824-can-cnake-oil-stack-in-inventory-pretty-please/#findComment-741095 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oCrapaCreeper Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 4 minutes ago, Gingerbread said: yeah. but that does not imply they wont add some codes that would make it useful. It is still being developed and they listen community I witnessed this alot.. For example, monkey drops were alot I complained about that in the forums, a lot of people were against that but in the end they changed, now monkeys drop either banana or morsel. They explicitly state they don't want it to do anything in the code. Most people agree with the gag and it should just stay as an easter egg. The game is also feature complete at this point. "--Used for snakeoil. We don't want it to actually do anything." Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/65824-can-cnake-oil-stack-in-inventory-pretty-please/#findComment-741098 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingerbread Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 well klei were claiming that skins would not be marketable but they changed their mind. So everything is possible. This is a topic and everyone got their opinion. You may not like it but a lot of people want it to have a use as u can see from the poll. Feature complete game got still changes like poison duration and such. They will not add a new item. They will change its function if they want or if people wants. Also if you say powder cake is useless then you got no idea about the game... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/65824-can-cnake-oil-stack-in-inventory-pretty-please/#findComment-741099 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oCrapaCreeper Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 4 minutes ago, Gingerbread said: Also if you say powder cake is useless then you got no idea about the game... Like Snakeoil, it's a joke. Specfically an inside joke in the Klei office. It gives 0 hunger, 0 sanity, and damages you by 3 health points. It's useless for food purposes. Only use I can possibly think about is luring certain mobs, or killing yourself. Both of those have better ways. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/65824-can-cnake-oil-stack-in-inventory-pretty-please/#findComment-741103 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingerbread Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 well i am aware it is a joke but it should have a use even it is not important. I am not expecting to get a benefit out of a joke, i am aware it is a joke but at least make it consumable so we can drink to despawn. or give to pigs for something not important. put to fire to get 2 seconds of burn. powder cake is a crucial item for merms, pigs and globbers. Keep pigs outside put a powder cake. They stay outside. easy kill for globbers which is really nice to have cuz tons of free and easy meat.. powder cake and this item cannot be compared. Powder cake has a real use and its benefit is better than most traps in the game where u can use lotta resources. You cannot even consume an item why? snake oils cannot be consumed? they just do nothing but they are consumable. It can be used to fool wildbores.. Could be used as some sort of powdercake for wildbores but with really different mechanics (not copy paste). or to distract primeapes until one of them drinks it etc.. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/65824-can-cnake-oil-stack-in-inventory-pretty-please/#findComment-741108 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoQuitting Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 On 3/27/2016 at 5:10 PM, stl1234 said: Can snake oil stack in inventory, pretty please? Okay fine, it can stack up to 40 now. If you find a wildbore who is poisoned he will be foolish enough to buy it from you. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/65824-can-cnake-oil-stack-in-inventory-pretty-please/#findComment-741384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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