XirmiX Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 I'd agree that Old Bell would be very distructive and would be as easily to get your hands on if each player is able to craft it (because the blueprint system would cause issues in certain if not most cases).The destruction possible to be done by the old bell's summoning of Bigfoot could be chaotic. I'm not here to adress the Bigfoot himself, the big guy is fine as he is... But what if the old bell was in ancient tab instead of magic tab? I mean, it is an OLD bell after all. That way you'd need to get Glommer on full moon, kill Glommer, go through caves and find ruins, go through ruins and find an ancient pseudo station (broken or not, who cares?), craft the old bell, get out of the ruins, get out of the caves and only then you could do something highly destructive.How does this solution sound to you? Yey? Ney? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/55760-suggestion-for-the-old-bell/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkXero Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Yes.Although being in the ancient tab means that you won't learn it, requiring to go back to make more bells. Which I also like. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/55760-suggestion-for-the-old-bell/#findComment-650839 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auth Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 I do think we should keep the fact the moleworms can eat them because that is just hilarious Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/55760-suggestion-for-the-old-bell/#findComment-650846 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asparagus Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 *applauds*...Keep the same recipe or add Thulecite? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/55760-suggestion-for-the-old-bell/#findComment-650862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphKastro Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 Yey. I still don't like the Glommer part, because it would both cause a huge pile of wings surplus and still not make much sense, but at least it's something.but I think that the Big Foot should deal more damage, as it would make it more useable for Dragonfly fight. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/55760-suggestion-for-the-old-bell/#findComment-650876 Share on other sites More sharing options...
XirmiX Posted June 30, 2015 Author Share Posted June 30, 2015 Scaling to the RoG trailer, Bigfoot should actually be bigger than he actually is! Like x2 bigger!May be Bigfoot could deal 10k damage too if it becomes an ancient tab item?@Asparagus hmm may be it could require 1 Thulecite to make the bell along with the flower and the wings?@DarkXero it being difficult to get your hands on and having low durability I would say balances quite well with the amount of damage it could deal (1 old bell would = 30k damage max!) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/55760-suggestion-for-the-old-bell/#findComment-650898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auth Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 Scaling to the RoG trailer, Bigfoot should actually be bigger than he actually is! Like x2 bigger!May be Bigfoot could deal 10k damage too if it becomes an ancient tab item?@Asparagus hmm may be it could require 1 Thulecite to make the bell along with the flower and the wings?@DarkXero it being difficult to get your hands on and having low durability I would say balances quite well with the amount of damage it could deal (1 old bell would = 30k damage max!) Deal 10000 damage Step 1: Put Old Bells around the portal Step 2: Wait for someone to join Step 3: Put down a moleworm Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/55760-suggestion-for-the-old-bell/#findComment-650900 Share on other sites More sharing options...
XirmiX Posted June 30, 2015 Author Share Posted June 30, 2015 Deal 10000 damageStep 1: Put Old Bells around the portalStep 2: Wait for someone to joinStep 3: Put down a moleworm1) If yoy're a host doing that, well then you're a Bad Host. And we have that kind of servers all over the place where the host goes godmode and mallesters the client players.2) If you're a client would you go through the effort of a dozen days just to do that? Doubt it. Setting bases on fire, hammering stuff and basically getting in other player's way with easy methods is ought to be way more common than this.3) Timing this correctly has a what proportion of a chance? Btw we already have meteors going in people's faces sometimes in servers when they spawn from the portal.4) This would be a small issue only in Survival servers, if one at all considering the amount of effort you need to go through as a client as in Endless you can just respawn over and over again via portal and in Wilderness there's no portal at all and you respawn very simply.So unless you're a troll who have too much free time (no life) in their hands I don't see how big foot would be a problem with 10k. Also, 10k and 1k damage for most players at the very start has practically the same effect. Just that Wigfrid won't be able to survive a Bigfoot stomp with her helmet on, where as all the other players would die either way with one stomp.So, I just have one question for you; Reason much? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/55760-suggestion-for-the-old-bell/#findComment-650903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphKastro Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 10k damagetake that, Thulecite Armour set. Oh, wait, that's still not enough... Like x2 bigger!well, that would make people fear it more, as it probably would entirely crush a small base if misplaced. But if I have to hear the "tree farm" argument one more time...Edit: Now that I thought about it, is there really any other counter arguement to locking the bell in the ruins besides the treefarm people(I can't believe I'm aknowledging their existence...)? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/55760-suggestion-for-the-old-bell/#findComment-650907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auth Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 mallesters Okay, that word just sounds hilarious, I just have to point that out. And I was just trying to crack a joke Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/55760-suggestion-for-the-old-bell/#findComment-650921 Share on other sites More sharing options...
imsomony Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 Just that Wigfrid won't be able to survive a Bigfoot stomp with her helmet on, http://www.twitch.tv/flare2v/c/5664458 Just sharing something hilarious and relevant to your statement . Singeplayer Wigfrid there, for anyone uncertain. That aside, no idea why Bigfoot needs to gain additional damage up to 10K. Potential griefing is prevalent already, and damage caused by him/her is enough as-is. I do think it's an interesting twist to lock the Old Bell in the Ruins though. A dedicated griefer can and will get it, but most would abandon the lengthy pursuit and use other means. Unless, of course, they found the base of people who already went into the Ruins and got the Old Bell. Or they were lucky and obtained the blueprint from Tumbleweeds. Then it's game over. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/55760-suggestion-for-the-old-bell/#findComment-650950 Share on other sites More sharing options...
XirmiX Posted June 30, 2015 Author Share Posted June 30, 2015 http://www.twitch.tv/flare2v/c/5664458Just sharing something hilarious and relevant to your statement . Singeplayer Wigfrid there, for anyone uncertain. That aside, no idea why Bigfoot needs to gain additional damage up to 10K. Potential griefing is prevalent already, and damage caused by him/her is enough as-is. I do think it's an interesting twist to lock the Old Bell in the Ruins though. A dedicated griefer can and will get it, but most would abandon the lengthy pursuit and use other means.Unless, of course, they found the base of people who already went into the Ruins and got the Old Bell. Or they were lucky and obtained the blueprint from Tumbleweeds. Then it's game over.Out of curiosity: can you obtain Old Bell's blueprint in tumbleweeds right now in DST? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/55760-suggestion-for-the-old-bell/#findComment-650992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
imsomony Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 Out of curiosity: can you obtain Old Bell's blueprint in tumbleweeds right now in DST? Nope, not yet, the recipes file (which blueprint calls on) doesn't contain the bell. It does have panflute and the accomploshrine though, haha. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/55760-suggestion-for-the-old-bell/#findComment-651104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOoKiller Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 Hey any1 thought of when caves and ruins are added to DST-ROG? and how to scale damage to uses ratio? 2k : 20 uses maybe? Recepie : (ancient) 1 wings, 1 thulecite & 1 flower Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/55760-suggestion-for-the-old-bell/#findComment-657361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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