MrNaxeros Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Just now I got the idea how to overuse meat egiffy.Let's say you and your friends survived quite a long time and you gathered a lot of ingredients for about 10 meat egiffies. Instead of creating them by yourselves you ask one of your other friends (who wasn't playing with you) to come on the server and craft all of them... or at least until he dies. Then he logs out and never comes back. That is until you run out of the egiffies. My solution for that would be limiting the amount of meat egiffies per player. I would suggest that each player would be able to create 2 meat egiffies with no health penalty. Why no penalty? I have 2 reasons:1. If the actual death system will stay (1/3 max health drained for everyone per player death) then draining even more total health would make meat egiffy the worst ressurection option and nobody would use it.2. Meat egiffy could be used by some stranger and when you die you will be raging that someone stole your ressurection item. (It might be fixed by adding option who can be ressurected.) What do you think of my solution? I guess it's fair enough for DST. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/41125-meat-egiffy-possible-overuse/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
rezecib Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 I think currently meat effigies are not tied to any player, so I don't think it subtracts 30 max health. I'm actually okay with this. The 30 max health penalty of meat effigies in single player felt largely symbolic on any character except Maxwell. So I don't think there need to be any further tweaks to meat effigies, specifically, although I've got my gripes about the current death system. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/41125-meat-egiffy-possible-overuse/#findComment-540988 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DwerBomb Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 If one would do that he could just play singleplayer with cheat codes enabled. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/41125-meat-egiffy-possible-overuse/#findComment-541015 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PigRider Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 If one would do that he could just play singleplayer with cheat codes enabled. Good point, let the cheaters cheat, I mean, this is not an rpg game that you try to get to the top, if you cheat you only ruin your own challnge, have fun with that.I think currently meat effigies are not tied to any player, so I don't think it subtracts 30 max health. I'm actually okay with this. The 30 max health penalty of meat effigies in single player felt largely symbolic on any character except Maxwell. So I don't think there need to be any further tweaks to meat effigies, specifically, although I've got my gripes about the current death system.but well, somebody will take the penalty and someone else will be using the meat effigy, dont you have any problem with that? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/41125-meat-egiffy-possible-overuse/#findComment-541047 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rezecib Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Good point, let the cheaters cheat, I mean, this is not an rpg game that you try to get to the top, if you cheat you only ruin your own challnge, have fun with that.but well, somebody will take the penalty and someone else will be using the meat effigy, dont you have any problem with that? No, nobody will have a penalty. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/41125-meat-egiffy-possible-overuse/#findComment-541058 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiritcrusher77 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Doesn't reviving in any way drain the life force from everyone anyway? I thought that was the gist. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/41125-meat-egiffy-possible-overuse/#findComment-541060 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZnSstr Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 I think everyone should have a penalty when a meat effigy is up. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/41125-meat-egiffy-possible-overuse/#findComment-541074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the truthseeker Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 See my "I'll wait for the game to be personally tested first before speculating on what I haven't personally tried" reply. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/41125-meat-egiffy-possible-overuse/#findComment-541140 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tetrified Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 See my "I'll wait for the game to be personally tested first before speculating on what I haven't personally tried" reply. Would you mind linking, or letting me know which thread this is in? I always find your posts fairly interesting Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/41125-meat-egiffy-possible-overuse/#findComment-541144 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the truthseeker Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Would you mind linking, or letting me know which thread this is in? I always find your posts fairly interestingAnytime anybody starts anything with wild speculation But honestly, it's almost always something plain like "I'll wait for us to have more info first before listing my opinion." Nothing clever or cutesy or parody or even innately funny like I can do. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/41125-meat-egiffy-possible-overuse/#findComment-541150 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tetrified Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Anytime anybody starts anything with wild speculation But honestly, it's almost always something plain like "I'll wait for us to have more info first before listing my opinion." Nothing clever or cutesy or parody or even innately funny like I can do. Ah, I could swear you referred to it in another thread, and was wondering if you were talking about a specific post that you had made or something. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/41125-meat-egiffy-possible-overuse/#findComment-541165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toroic Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Whoever makes the meat effigy should have to pay the price, and is also auto-revived at the effigy when they die (assuming they aren't wearing an amulet) while other players turn into ghosts. The most efficient way to have effigies is to have the health cost concentrated on a player who does a lot of farming/base maintenance while the other players focus on fighting/foraging. -60 health when you're not at risk isn't as important as when you're going to be fighting. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/41125-meat-egiffy-possible-overuse/#findComment-541974 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrNaxeros Posted September 28, 2014 Author Share Posted September 28, 2014 What about Hounds attacks and Deerclops? That wouldn't end well if other players went too far. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/41125-meat-egiffy-possible-overuse/#findComment-541981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flare2V Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Forreal? Meat effigies are broken enough as they are, why would you want to buff them so much? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/41125-meat-egiffy-possible-overuse/#findComment-541987 Share on other sites More sharing options...
averagewalrus Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Whoever makes the meat effigy should have to pay the price, and is also auto-revived at the effigy when they die (assuming they aren't wearing an amulet) while other players turn into ghosts. The most efficient way to have effigies is to have the health cost concentrated on a player who does a lot of farming/base maintenance while the other players focus on fighting/foraging. -60 health when you're not at risk isn't as important as when you're going to be fighting.I mostly agree with you Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/41125-meat-egiffy-possible-overuse/#findComment-542958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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