Fellow Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 What is his true name?I figured I'd ask you guys since you know the lore the best out of all forums on here. Wilson calls him "Otto von Chesterfield, Esquire". (This is also what the wiki claims his name is)The poster from when he was released, calls him "Chester von Ottoman, Esquire". Which one is it? Does anyone know? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29995-about-chester/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeoSS69 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 What is his true name? Wilson calls him "Otto von Chesterfield, Esquire". (This is also what the wiki claims his name is)The poster from when he was released, calls him "Chester von Ottoman, Esquire". Which one is it? Does anyone know?Chester von Ottoman,is what people that can't read call him. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29995-about-chester/#findComment-378291 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fellow Posted November 26, 2013 Author Share Posted November 26, 2013 You don't need to be rude about it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29995-about-chester/#findComment-378293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeoSS69 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 You don't need to be rude about it.Uhm "People with inability to comprehend written language" is better? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29995-about-chester/#findComment-378295 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NicoleArtist Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Aside the random rudeness, this is actually an interesting find, two names.I think the poster name is the more than likely name, sence Wilson is less likely to know his name. (he was probably trying to give chester a long name to be cool, or something) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29995-about-chester/#findComment-378373 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeoSS69 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Aside the random rudeness, this is actually an interesting find, two names.I think the poster name is the more than likely name, sence Wilson is less likely to know his name. (he was probably trying to give chester a long name to be cool, or something)Nope, the Wilson one is right. The poster one is an oversight (it's not the first time) Besides a lot of late adopters of the game still call it C. von Ottoman in their streams, not being able to read what Wilson says. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29995-about-chester/#findComment-378376 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig_Perry Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 otto (short for ottoman if I remember correctly) sounds more plausible as the first name than chester so I'd say:Ottoman von Chesterfield esq. Chester von Ottoman,is what people that can't read call him.it does actually say that on the poster... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29995-about-chester/#findComment-378380 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeoSS69 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 it does actually say that on the poster...Read one post above. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29995-about-chester/#findComment-378381 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig_Perry Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Read one post above.the curse of bad timing struck me once more.. damnit. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29995-about-chester/#findComment-378384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fellow Posted November 26, 2013 Author Share Posted November 26, 2013 Aside the random rudeness, this is actually an interesting find, two names.I think the poster name is the more than likely name, sence Wilson is less likely to know his name. (he was probably trying to give chester a long name to be cool, or something)That's a good point, glad someone is actually being helpful and informative.It would be real odd if Wilson knew about Chester since he comes from a different world entirely.It also would make more sense for him to be "of Ottoman", even if it doesn't make sense because of the dutch.I don't remember germans being in the turkish Ottoman but that'd just make for an interesting story.Never heard of Chesterfield though. Guessing that'd be in the US or something? I was just really conufsed when I spotted this, I knew that Otto was part of Chesters name so I looked it up on the wiki.It's a bit confusing and I hope one of the staff perhaps might spot this thread and give the true answer. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29995-about-chester/#findComment-378385 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeoSS69 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 That's a good point, glad someone is actually being helpful and informative.It would be real odd if Wilson knew about Chester since he comes from a different world entirely. I was just really conufsed when I spotted this, I knew that Otto was part of Chesters name so I looked it up on the wiki.It's a bit confusing and I hope one of the staff perhaps might spot this thread and give the true answer. Just because I'm rude doesn't mean i'm wrong. It's the same thing as the "Nightmare Knight" that happened a few months ago.So Wilson's the right one. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29995-about-chester/#findComment-378387 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sporb Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 I'm more inclined to trust Wilson's version of the name. After all, the game itself is more up to date and overall just a more reliable source of information than some old poster. I mean, one of the posters says that you can dig up turf with the shovel. That's obviously not the case anymore. Also, shouldn't this be in the general discussion or something? It's not really, y'know, artsy. I'm reluctant to mention this because questioning the location of threads seems to start fights. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29995-about-chester/#findComment-378412 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeoSS69 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Also, shouldn't this be in the general discussion or something? It's not really, y'know, artsy. I'm reluctant to mention this because questioning the location of threads seems to start fights. Only when the OP overreacts. Reported the thread BTW Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29995-about-chester/#findComment-378413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fellow Posted November 26, 2013 Author Share Posted November 26, 2013 I'm more inclined to trust Wilson's version of the name. After all, the game itself is more up to date and overall just a more reliable source of information than some old poster. I mean, one of the posters says that you can dig up turf with the shovel. That's obviously not the case anymore.Also, shouldn't this be in the general discussion or something? It's not really, y'know, artsy. I'm reluctant to mention this because questioning the location of threads seems to start fights. The name of one of the NPCs can count as lore, no?I mean, information about NPCs is part of the lore, so information about an NPC in Don't Starve would be part of Don't Starves lore. Also, by that logic it'd make even more sense if the poster was right. The poster is created after they have designed and implemented the functions into the game and have the update ready. (At least that's how I think it is, I highly doubt they'll have the designer just come up with everything and then implement whatever the designer of the poster wants to have in the game) So it could very well be an error they made before putting in the correct name on the poster, the poster is more recent than the files themselves therefor more likely to be correct.But this is just chance. It is more LIKELY to be correct. And at that time, the turfs were dug up with shovels.Chesters information nor Wilsons examination note for Chester in specific have not been updated since the update these two things were released in, right? So it's not a fair comparison since any update to them is an old update, not something newly re-done. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29995-about-chester/#findComment-378415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeoSS69 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 The name of one of the NPCs can count as lore, no?Not in this case. It's just an error from the devs. There's not much to discuss. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29995-about-chester/#findComment-378421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sporb Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 The name of one of the NPCs can count as lore, no? I mean, information about NPCs is part of the lore, so information about an NPC in Don't Starve would be part of Don't Starves lore. Also, by that logic it'd make even more sense if the poster was right. The poster is created after they have designed and implemented the functions into the game and have the update ready. (At least that's how I think it is, I highly doubt they'll have the designer just come up with everything and then implement whatever the designer of the poster wants to have in the game) So it could very well be an error they made before putting in the correct name on the poster, the poster is more recent than the files themselves therefor more likely to be correct. But this is just chance. It is more LIKELY to be correct. And at that time, the turfs were dug up with shovels. Chesters information nor Wilsons examination note for Chester in specific have not been updated since the update these two things were released in, right? So it's not a fair comparison since any update to them is an old update, not something newly re-done. Nah, 'lore,' in this context, is referring to player created stuff. But now I understand why you posted this here. What I'm trying to say is that, if Wilson's quote was an error, they would likely fix it in a later update. It's been quite a while, so they would likely have discovered the error and fixed it by now. That's why I'm more inclined to trust the game. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29995-about-chester/#findComment-378433 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fellow Posted November 26, 2013 Author Share Posted November 26, 2013 Nah, 'lore,' in this context, is referring to player created stuff. But now I understand why you posted this here.What I'm trying to say is that, if Wilson's quote was an error, they would likely fix it in a later update. It's been quite a while, so they would likely have discovered the error and fixed it by now. That's why I'm more inclined to trust the game. It's very true, if it is an error they most likely would have fixed it by now. They have been somewhat fast with fixing other minor issues.And I didn't realize Lore meant player submissions, I've never heard of that before.That's a bit odd, oh well. Hopefully the thread is moved into General Discussion/Off topic area soon. Edit: Glad it seems to be what I initially had believed. Alright, now I'm fairly certain it's von Chesterfield and not von Ottoman, even if it's a bit weird.I found the patch note for the patch where Chester was added and it states:The mysterious Otto Von Chesterfield can be found in some swamps. (You will need a regen to find him) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29995-about-chester/#findComment-378438 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeoSS69 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Edit: Alright, now I'm fairly certain it's von Chesterfield and not von Ottoman, even if it's a bit weird.I found the patch note for the patch where Chester was added and it states:The mysterious Otto Von Chesterfield can be found in some swamps. (You will need a regen to find him)Ha! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29995-about-chester/#findComment-378451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the truthseeker Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 While we're nit picking... Esquire. Definition of ESQUIRE1: a member of the English gentry ranking below a knight2: a candidate for knighthood serving as shield bearer and attendant to a knight3—used as a title of courtesy usually placed in its abbreviated form after the surname <John R. Smith, Esq.>4archaic : a landed proprietor Assuming we're using this more supported European one and not the US-supported concept (the US one typically means Lawyer,) Chester is part of the land-owning Nobility or "gentry" ranked just below Knighthood or "Squire." And assuming he is then Gentry... Definition of GENTRY1a obsolete : the qualities appropriate to a person of gentle birth; especially : courtesy b : the condition or rank of a gentleman2a : upper or ruling class : aristocracy b : a class whose members are entitled to bear a coat of arms though not of noble rank; especially : the landed proprietors having such status3: people of a specified class or kind : folks <no real heroes or heroines among the academic gentry — R. G. Hanvey> Where the [censored] is Chester's land supposed to be? And am i supposed to believe that he (it?) was born (into some noble family) and not made like tentacles? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29995-about-chester/#findComment-378532 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarcosuchus Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 While we're nit picking...Esquire. Assuming we're using this more supported European one and not the US-supported concept (the US one typically means Lawyer,) Chester is part of the land-owning Nobility or "gentry" ranked just below Knighthood or "Squire." And assuming he is then Gentry...Where the [censored] is Chester's land supposed to be? And am i supposed to believe that he (it?) was born (into some noble family) and not made like tentacles?I think it's a little less of the actual literal translation, and a little more of the "I'm a gentleman scientist and this is my fancily named pet." Although, it does make sense to think of him as the squire to Wilson's knight. He follows Wilson around and carries his stuff, and it doesn't seem terribly out of character to me for Wilson to style himself as a knight. He'll always be a gentleman scientist, but that's not really a role that's suited for combat. An honorable knight on a quest is a classy enough role, and suited to the circumstances, if not quite as dapper. It probably helps his mental state a bit to think of himself in that sense, a man with a mission and high standards of conduct, rather than as a desperate and frightened survivor. ....good grief that was more analysis than I intended. Someone teach me to shut up. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29995-about-chester/#findComment-378540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the truthseeker Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 I think it's a little less of the actual literal translation, and a little more of the "I'm a gentleman scientist and this is my fancily named pet." Although, it does make sense to think of him as the squire to Wilson's knight. He follows Wilson around and carries his stuff, and it doesn't seem terribly out of character to me for Wilson to style himself as a knight. He'll always be a gentleman scientist, but that's not really a role that's suited for combat. An honorable knight on a quest is a classy enough role, and suited to the circumstances, if not quite as dapper. It probably helps his mental state a bit to think of himself in that sense, a man with a mission and high standards of conduct, rather than as a desperate and frightened survivor. ....good grief that was more analysis than I intended. Someone teach me to shut up. Now I thought how Insane this all is...and that made me think of Don Quixote and Sancho Panza...Hello Chester, AKA Sancho. So can we have Windmills in DS now please Klei? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29995-about-chester/#findComment-378548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoneyHam Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Chester's obviously a lawyer. Has to be. There's mountains of evidence.And if by the .001 % chance he's not, he's obviously a nobleman born of the finest families in Europe. Mountains of evidence, guys. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29995-about-chester/#findComment-378644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeoSS69 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 You mean he's more than a loyal punching bag? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29995-about-chester/#findComment-378660 Share on other sites More sharing options...
23rd Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 While we're nit picking... Esquire. Assuming we're using this more supported European one and not the US-supported concept (the US one typically means Lawyer,) Chester is part of the land-owning Nobility or "gentry" ranked just below Knighthood or "Squire." And assuming he is then Gentry... Where the [censored] is Chester's land supposed to be? And am i supposed to believe that he (it?) was born (into some noble family) and not made like tentacles?He's one of the only thing in the game that actively helps Wilson without ever doing any harm to him alongside the Pig King (a pattern emerges!) That seems like it's worth pointing out. Now, for some theories!Chester was once human, and became yet another of Maxwell's (alternatively, Their) playthings. Some form of dark magic turned him into the adorable fellow he is now.Distant relative of the Pig King.The legal owner (somehow) of the swamp biomes. Merms are awful residents.I'm leaning towards the first one. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29995-about-chester/#findComment-378674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fellow Posted November 26, 2013 Author Share Posted November 26, 2013 He's one of the only thing in the game that actively helps Wilson without ever doing any harm to him alongside the Pig King (a pattern emerges!) That seems like it's worth pointing out. Now, for some theories!Chester was once human, and became yet another of Maxwell's (alternatively, Their) playthings. Some form of dark magic turned him into the adorable fellow he is now.Distant relative of the Pig King.The legal owner (somehow) of the swamp biomes. Merms are awful residents.I'm leaning towards the first one.It'd be pretty damned awesome if they added a similar story to explain Chesters existance.I mean, an eye-bone isn't exactly the most practical step of evolution. It sounds more like a curse, something the creator of the terrible, hostile world had made to mock whatever Chester once was. It would also explain why Chester is so willing to help Wilson with anything to confront Maxwell. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29995-about-chester/#findComment-378702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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