psyk90913 Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 I know many people will start thinking about the title like "multiplayer again", "it will be locked soon" blah blah blah... But don't worry much, the title is just a kind of tricky advertisement for thread. The multiplayer is just a part of the main topic. And it's about "what make a game be good and live last longer?".For short, view this:http://www.google.com/trends/explore?q=don%27t+starve#q=don%27t%20starve&cmpt=qhttp://www.google.com/trends/explore?q=don%27t+starve+game#q=don%27t%20starve%20game&cmpt=qhttp://www.google.com/trends/explore?q=don%27t+starve#q=%22dont+starve+download%22&cmpt=qGoogle trends help user know the trends of Internet stuff, it mean it also help to know if game, a internet topic, a movie, a character, an event, a song or whatever are currently hot or such. In this case DS game seem has the sign of going down.The highest point of the "Interest over time" chart is around April - May 2013. It's time the "Underground" and "The end of the beginning" update released. It mean people only interest about the time DS closed Alpha/Beta and release the completed game. Afterward, the game seem was no more interesting and attract new players.Developer has many way to improve the game and orientate it. It may be periodic update, mod improvement, new DLC,...etc. But the general, the popular and may be the easiest way is multiplayer mode.- I have already known the developer's philosophy that they want to provide an original - roguelike - single player mode Don't starve game. And the multiplayer mode will break the atmostphere of the game which for lonely experience or such, blah blah blah.- I respect it but from the user's point of view, I just don't care. What make the game more fun, more live last longer should be focused on. It's the first point.- Second, why can't we have both? A DS game which contain single and multiplayer mode respectively without conflicting of each other?A game usually has 2 major element. One is desire of developers + designer + gamer.... and one is effort of programmer/coder + game engine + mechanism condition...If the game engine doesn't let us do a such action in the game, base on game mechanism..., we must accept it. But if the object condition meet the desire, and the lifetime of the game is more important than which if it has multiplayer or not, should we change our mind?Note that I don't actually focus on only multiplayer. It's just a general solution. My point is how to make DS more better, live last longer and it has many way to do it.I know the developer may actually don't care much about that, because Klei has many other game than DS. If DS is short lifetime but help the revenue increase, multiplayer is not important. In that case, I feel regret about this great potential game. It's actually like a revolution in survival - exploration game genre. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/28124-multiplayer-or-such/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugo M. Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 "what make a game be good and live last longer?". Mods. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/28124-multiplayer-or-such/#findComment-329263 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zazori Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Mods.This.This so hard that I'll start bleeding if I read the comment again. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/28124-multiplayer-or-such/#findComment-329266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyk90913 Posted September 24, 2013 Author Share Posted September 24, 2013 I added the poll: mutiplayer yes or no? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/28124-multiplayer-or-such/#findComment-329267 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Mods.Agreed. You know that they need to re-wright the whole game if they would add multiplayer, huh? It's better that they focus on single player, which is their plan. Remember that's only for searching. People can still be interested in it, just doesn't google it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/28124-multiplayer-or-such/#findComment-329268 Share on other sites More sharing options...
debugman18 Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Whatever. Vote the poll: mutiplayer yes or no?You can't just wave off somebody's answer to your question with 'whatever' and expect an engaging discussion to follow. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/28124-multiplayer-or-such/#findComment-329270 Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyk90913 Posted September 24, 2013 Author Share Posted September 24, 2013 Agreed. You know that they need to re-wright the whole game if they would add multiplayer, huh? It's better that they focus on single player, which is their plan. Remember that's only for searching. People can still be interested in it, just doesn't google it.People who can still be interested is the one who already know DS, may be most of them are DS fan. This is about the new player.They may need to re-wright the whole game but it due to their first philosophy that they want DS are truly single player. If it really need to has multiplayer it doesn't matter. You can't just wave off somebody's answer to your question with 'whatever' and expect an engaging discussion to follow.Sorry I'm not native Enlish, it may lead to a misunderstand. I never trying to be a rude one. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/28124-multiplayer-or-such/#findComment-329271 Share on other sites More sharing options...
debugman18 Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 People who can still be interested is the one who already know DS, may be most of them are DS fan. This is about the new player. Sorry my English is bad, it may lead to a misunderstand. I never trying to be a rude one.Ah, okay. "whatever" is usually used as dismissive, for future reference. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/28124-multiplayer-or-such/#findComment-329272 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig_Perry Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 there will not be a multiplayer unless its been modded by the community (due to developers views and mos of the community's) the longevity of a game does not mean "multiplayer or it has a short life" yeah the risk is higher for single players currently but that's a simple market trend sooner or later multiplayer games will be boring and single player being the "next best thing" multiplayer doesn't always make things better.... have you seen the state of current fps's? if not its bad, i don't even know how they got that far into the gaming hellhole anyhow they have done most of what they can to increase longevity... although in truth it doesn't matter as long as they did a good job (and they really have) and made the game enjoyable for long enough that the customers money was worth it, it was successful all games "die" but only from a business standpoint, there will always be people playing or still like it however few there are. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/28124-multiplayer-or-such/#findComment-329273 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 People who can still be interested is the one who already know DS, may be most of them are DS fan. This is about the new player. Sorry my English is bad, it may lead to a misunderstand. I never trying to be a rude one.I understand that. But new players doesn't need to google a game to show that they might be interested in it. They can just have a look at it in steam for example. What I mean is that showing interest i a game doesn't mean you google it, so the stats there does not show off how many new players who are interested in it, just how many googled it. I hope you get my point, real bad explained. haha PS: My english is not that good neither cx Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/28124-multiplayer-or-such/#findComment-329276 Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyk90913 Posted September 24, 2013 Author Share Posted September 24, 2013 there will not be a multiplayer unless its been modded by the community (due to developers views and mos of the community's)That's what I'm talking about. If there are mod from community I hope developer can support them, like open source(some part of the game).Many successfull games was custom map or mod from other games like Counter strike - Half life or dotA - Aeon of strife-Starcraft. I understand that. But new players doesn't need to google a game to show that they might be interested in it. They can just have a look at it in steam for example. What I mean is that showing interest i a game doesn't mean you google it, so the stats there does not show off how many new players who are interested in it, just how many googled it. I hope you get my point, real bad explained. haha PS: My english is not that good neither cx In that case you should provide if there are certain way to know how people interested in. Or googling still a general way to focus. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/28124-multiplayer-or-such/#findComment-329280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig_Perry Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 That's what I'm talking about. If there are mod from community I hope developer can support them, like open source(some part of the game).Many successfull games was custom map or mod from other games like Counter strike - Half life or dotA - Aeon of strife-Starcraft.well they all work just fine from what I can tell anyway, can be downloaded from here or the steam workshop (those that have put their mods there anyway) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/28124-multiplayer-or-such/#findComment-329282 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 In that case you should provide if there are certain way to know how people interested in. Or googling still a general way to focus. I don't know any. I just wanted to tell that it wasn't the 'full stats' so people have that in mind! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/28124-multiplayer-or-such/#findComment-329291 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeoSS69 Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 What is the point of this thread? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/28124-multiplayer-or-such/#findComment-329300 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbeetle Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 What is the point of this thread?Respectfully, I felt like I was the only one would didn't understand. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/28124-multiplayer-or-such/#findComment-329302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyk90913 Posted September 24, 2013 Author Share Posted September 24, 2013 What is the point of this thread?The poll.I don't know any. I just wanted to tell that it wasn't the 'full stats' so people have that in mind! If so, we should accept the result from google trends that Don't starve is going down a bit. At least compare to other indies.http://www.google.com/trends/explore?q=don%27t+starve#q=minecraft&cmpt=qhttp://www.google.com/trends/explore?q=don%27t+starve#q=prison%20architect&cmpt=qhttp://www.google.com/trends/explore?q=don%27t+starve#q=slender%20man&cmpt=qhttp://www.google.com/trends/explore?q=don%27t+starve#q=amnesia%20a%20machine%20for%20pig&cmpt=q Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/28124-multiplayer-or-such/#findComment-329306 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeoSS69 Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 The poll.You've had countless polls like that before that the majority voted "no". You already read the devs opinion on the matter too. So, once again. What is the point of this thread? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/28124-multiplayer-or-such/#findComment-329314 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 The poll.If so, we should accept the result from google trends that Don't starve is going down a bit. At least compare to other indies.Okay, then. A funny thing here is that people who google 'prison architect' might not mean the game and such... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/28124-multiplayer-or-such/#findComment-329315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbeetle Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Are we throwing out comparisons that are unfair or unrelated? Are we throwing out comparisons where the dev team is larger, or has a larger budget? Are we throwing out newer games that haven't even been out for more than a month? etcetera Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/28124-multiplayer-or-such/#findComment-329318 Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyk90913 Posted September 24, 2013 Author Share Posted September 24, 2013 You've had countless polls like that before that the majority voted "no". You already read the devs opinion on the matter too. So, once again. What is the point of this thread?What's poll? I don't remember I've created a topic like this.Didn't you read my OP? Are we throwing out comparisons that are unfair or unrelated? Are we throwing out comparisons where the dev team is larger, or has a larger budget? Are we throwing out newer games that haven't even been out for more than a month? etceteraThe comparison suppose to prove that DS is going down itself. It need a shake to become better. I just point out a general way is multiplayer, just a personal opinion. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/28124-multiplayer-or-such/#findComment-329325 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeoSS69 Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 What's poll? I don't remember I've created a topic like this.Didn't you read my OP?I read your OP and i'm telling you that have been countless threads about this and they all got the same response. Instead of searching "Don't Starve" in google trends search "multiplayer" on the forums. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/28124-multiplayer-or-such/#findComment-329326 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbeetle Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 What's poll? I don't remember I've created a topic like this.Didn't you read my OP? The comparison suppose to prove that DS is going down itself. It need a shake to become better. I just point out a general way is multiplayer, just a personal opinion.and I'm just pointing out (through rhetorical questions) that your comparisons are very flawed. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/28124-multiplayer-or-such/#findComment-329333 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gummie Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 I don't see anything which interest us all on a multiplayer DS. So what are we gonna do? Merge 5-10 worlds at soul purpose hiring the most pigmen, bunnymen and attempt to attack and destroy each camps and kill each other? Go to ruins run in havoc on which will have the most nightmares killed, grab others loots from mining and oh kill the ancient guard and may the fastest finger have the horn? You seriously dig in to that? Isn't that lame? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/28124-multiplayer-or-such/#findComment-329335 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugo M. Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 I just point out a general way is multiplayer, just a personal opinion.Sir, if this is just a personal opinion, and most of the people here on the forums agree that so whats the point of this? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/28124-multiplayer-or-such/#findComment-329337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyk90913 Posted September 24, 2013 Author Share Posted September 24, 2013 I read your OP and i'm telling you that have been countless threads about this and they all got the same response. Instead of searching "Don't Starve" in google trends search "multiplayer" on the forums.I didn't find any relation. Please provide said thread, this is first thread I created about this topic.My point is already mentioned - Second, why can't we have both? A DS game which contain single and multiplayer mode respectively without conflicting of each other?#23, #24:I can see only reason here is they need re-write the whole game to make the game has multiplayer. And I agree it's a g point.Any more rational reason to accept that DS should not has multiplayer? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/28124-multiplayer-or-such/#findComment-329342 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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