New DLC is coming , any thoughts ? SteamDB Screenshot

[Sebastiangperez]

Hi guys, i just saw that in SteamDB there is a new DLC on process , anyone has any thoughts what can be ? or another cosmetic pack ? 

Edited January 13 by Sebastiangperez

[GluttonyMain]

Hopefully not cosmetics pack

Edited January 13 by GluttonyMain

[Gurgel]

No idea. But if it is something larger, it may be on track for release roughly half a year after the Cosmetics Pack. 

Edited January 13 by Gurgel

[Sebastiangperez]

31 minutes ago, Gurgel said:

No idea. But if it is something larger, it may be on rack for release roughly half a year after the Cosmetics Pack. 

Maybe they have been working in this DLC since the Prehistoric DLC .. 

[Gurgel]

Just now, Sebastiangperez said:

Maybe they have been working in this DLC since the Prehistoric DLC .. 

That would be my assumption, yes. 

[Charletrom]

2 hours ago, GluttonyMain said:

Hopefully not cosmetics pack

I understand the aversion but personally I like having an opportunity to support the game.

[Gurgel]

4 hours ago, Charletrom said:

I understand the aversion but personally I like having an opportunity to support the game.

Same here. I do not have the impression the push much more than what they need to sustain development. Unlike some other developers deep into greed that I could name. 

Edited January 13 by Gurgel

[speckle21]

Totally wild speculation: It's a crossover event with the Away Team game, or sets the stage for it. 

[Kderosa]

21 hours ago, Gurgel said:

Same here. I do not have the impression the push much more than what they need to sustain development. Unlike some other developers deep into greed that I could name. 

I'd gladly pay full price for a "game of the year" edition that let's me easily customize the size or the universe, the spacing of the planets, the starting planet, the teleporter planet, the outer planets along with providing some additional mid-late to late game content which is more of a proper end-game goal that I'm going to spend 100-200 hours with colonizing planets and developing complex supply chains for.

[Tigin]

1 hour ago, Sebastiangperez said:

I just saw that this guys uploaded the new Trailer of the DLC but seems very confusing... 

Im not gonna say what i saw but, you can check it. 

You'll have to elaborate. I don't see anything besides uploading new assets for the Cosmic Upgrade.

[Sebastiangperez]

That what i say , i do not remember the shot , so i assume that was a new trailer. 

 

Edited January 16 by Sebastiangperez

[arvenil]

Wow, I've completeky missed the release of cosmetic neutronium pack... sad seeing this game to hit rock bottom.

[asurendra]

33 minutes ago, arvenil said:

Wow, I've completeky missed the release of cosmetic neutronium pack... sad seeing this game to hit rock bottom.

Cant agree. They made a big free update alongside DLC, and they keep doing that for years. Thats much more than most indi developers usually are. 

[Sebastiangperez]

I hope this new DLC it's not just cosmetic, because seems like is something big, maybe there is some new assets on recent patches, i hope this bring new gameplay of some new modes or some kind of , Space Station DLC, that will be something , do you anyone think could be something ? the possibility of create a space station and from there launch missions or rockets ? also will bring you more Data Banks because now is kinda slow. 

 

[CrutchPunk]

3 hours ago, Sebastiangperez said:

...i hope this bring new gameplay of some new modes or some kind of , Space Station DLC...

 

That's honestly what I hope for... a space station Start makes the most sense in progression. 

Instead of establishing a base on a planetoid/asteroid.. your base/start is IN SPACE. 
Either repair a broken/stranded rocket, or expand an established rocket with new/different/upgraded modules. 
Each existing rocket module would get its own "capsule" interiors, and themed similar to the existing Rooms system. 
More planetoids but they're each smaller. More varied flora/fauna and necessity to explore to keep your ship alive. 
Or maybe you're establishing a literal Space Station you have to slowly construct like the ISS or something.

bonus DLC ask: RIVAL/EXISTING COLONIES - recruit, destroy, or coexist. 

Edited January 18 by CrutchPunk

[Sebastiangperez]

1 hour ago, CrutchPunk said:

That's honestly what I hope for... a space station Start makes the most sense in progression. 

Instead of establishing a base on a planetoid/asteroid.. your base/start is IN SPACE. 
Either repair a broken/stranded rocket, or expand an established rocket with new/different/upgraded modules. 
Each existing rocket module would get its own "capsule" interiors, and themed similar to the existing Rooms system. 
More planetoids but they're each smaller. More varied flora/fauna and necessity to explore to keep your ship alive. 
Or maybe you're establishing a literal Space Station you have to slowly construct like the ISS or something.

bonus DLC ask: RIVAL/EXISTING COLONIES - recruit, destroy, or coexist. 

The Space Station could be a thing , like you said , you can start expanding your base, fixing stuff, getting ready for access to the closest asteroid, maybe expand your base could be a must ( the new thermal door), fast building rockets or premade rockets, no printing pod , just limited to the three dupes that you choose, and then when you get out of the ship you can travel to the nearby planet and you can activated the printer pod ( you will already discover 1 or 2 ), maybe new buildings.

The other thing that i'm seeing is that they already made some kind of small missions engine, the one with the asteroid on de preistoric DLC and maybe they can bring another mission with this DLC, could they now can make missions ? 

Besides, can they include the Blueprint mod in the base game , also sweep by type too ? 

[asurendra]

IMHO game has enough starts already. What we really need is late game content. Making stations high tech high cost thing will make things much more interesting 

[LaShomb]

A space station start would get players to using rockets and drop pods immediately instead of it being mechanics that many avoid or rarely get to. I'd assume you would start with a small space station with limited resources. Perhaps the space station could have new devices for collecting space debris for limited survivability on it's own, by collecting ice, dirt, and polluted dirt in small quantities to produce oxygen, food, and cooling. Then you have to go to the surface of planetoids to collect more useful resources and each could have a sizable portion of your space station that you have to unearth and repair to return it to space and reattach it to your station to expand the buildable area there.

It could be a way to build a story or tutorial mode where new players get very specific dupes at certain times and are guided through useful approaches to problems by having those dupes provide advice. Each planetoid ends up being a sort of quest. Of course more experienced players can just dive in to a new start that requires doing things in a different order with the added challenge of limited space on the starting map.

[Charletrom]

I just want an update to germs. Would love a DLC focused around medicine and biological manipulation. Critter hybrids! Mutant dupes with special abilities! 

[Carib94]

New starts are cool and all but I also would like an update on germs, hazards, and medical buildings to make doctors worth using. BBP kinda made at least the Apothecary somewhat relevant for bionics gear balm and tallow gear balm and a use case for rad pills for them, but thats very little. Just like how spice grinder provides buffs to food to enhance a dupe. Doctors should make different kinds of vitamins or supplements to enhance dupes for example a vitamin that boost a dupe skill level so they can level up faster or maybe a vitamin that increase an attribute +5 for 3 cycles or something like that, can be useful for printing new dupes mid-late game, and these vitamins may even have side effects. Stuff like that is what I want to see.

Another thing just my preference, I would like to see new recreational buildings, granted we have good number, but most are not really practical but then again it wont hurt to have like 3 new rec buildings >.<

Edited January 19 by Carib94

[Kderosa]

3 hours ago, Carib94 said:

Just like how spice grinder provides buffs to food to enhance a dupe. Doctors should make different kinds of vitamins or supplements to enhance dupes for example a vitamin that boost a dupe skill level so they can level up faster or maybe a vitamin that increase an attribute +5 for 3 cycles or something like that, can be useful for printing new dupes mid-late game, and these vitamins may even have side effects.

The real problem why these buildings have very limited because you can't prioritize what foods the dupes and medicines the dupes go for.

Why make spiced food with specific buffs which only benefits machinists, say, if every dupe will grab that food, it's  waste of spice unless I limit only the machinists to that particular food.  If I make spiced BBQ for the machinists then no other dupes can eat BBQ and I'm forced to make a different kind of food for them.  If there's a way to get around this problem without excessive micromanaging and door permissions I haven't found it yet. This goes for every other spice.  Only the freshener spice is useful mid game before you are able to make berry sludge/pemmican for use in rockets. Same holds for rad pills and other pills.  Either you are stuck micromanaging their usage or else every dupe just keeps gobbling them up. By and large, I just want rad pills for dupes that are at risk of radiation exposure obviously, such as when they are in the rockets or you are playing on harder difficulties. But unless you are willing to micromanage their pill popping, your away team will just keep eating rad pills 24/7 as long as you keep making them.  Not a big deal, but far from ideal.  So, the result is players avoid using these building as much as possible because using them is micro-management hell.

If there ever were a use for rare materials it would be for building mid-late and late game buildings like a deep freezer with permissions and a pill dispensary than are controllable to allow for prioritization and the like.  Yes, it's great to make mid-game contraptions that solve these issues temporarily, but at some point you have bigger fish to fry and the level of micromanagement needed for those mid-game contraptions lowers the fun of the game, not enhances it.

This goes along with my theme that this game is great, but more attention needs to be given to the mid-late and late games to make those part of the games as fun (and not so boring) as the early  and early-mid games.

[LaShomb]

Tidying, Doctoring, Decorating, and even Building seem like they are lacking. I actually feel the skill trees for those could interconnect more for interesting new mechanics, similar to Mechatronics Engineering. Creativity and Doctoring could focus more on de-stressing tasks and buildings. Creativity and Tidying could combine to provide temporary building buffs similar to tune-ups or farmer's touch, like making beds, setting tables, and polishing statues. Doctoring could branch into Ranching for some Veterinary skills that focus on some advanced critter mechanics. Balms or food additives that increase scale growth.

I've been wanting to see Germs get expanded and give some reasons to not just immediately work on complete eradication or avoidance. I've always thought that hatches should have better conversion rates for food covered in food poisoning; gut probiotics. Maybe Pufts like Slimelung. They should have new germs that affect critters as well and we need cures for them. Certain materials could cause other ailments to both critters and dupes that Doctoring could treat. Things like sticky, slippery, or smelly could be similar to sneezy and have funny effects. Sticky could cause dupes/critters to pick up random items wasting carry capacity for a random amount of time, until a shower, or death. Smelly could give minor stress or cause a response. Some critter could be smelly with certain foods or without a treatment. Slippery could increase the chance to stumble or a chance of dropping some materials in delivery. There are a lot of options to have interactions like Spigot Seals liking being slippery and have decreased mood without it.

Having all of the Building skills in one straight line that only unlocks more building speed and the ability to deconstruct Gravitas buildings is a bit boring. I would rather see them more specialized and spread into other trees that unlock some specialized or advanced buildings. Creativity and Building could unlock building upgrades, like adding Visco-Gell to Comfy Beds for a water bed upgrade or a second output to liquid storage tanks, where the top pulls low-density liquids first and the bottom the higher density ones.

There are a lot of places where this game can be expanded, so I'm sure whatever they choose to do next will be a lot of fun.

17 minutes ago, Kderosa said:

The real problem why these buildings have very limited because you can't prioritize what foods the dupes and medicines the dupes go for.

Why make spiced food with specific buffs which only benefits machinists, say, if every dupe will grab that food, it's  waste of spice unless I limit only the machinists to that particular food.  If I make spiced BBQ for the machinists then no other dupes can eat BBQ and I'm forced to make a different kind of food for them.  If there's a way to get around this problem without excessive micromanaging and door permissions I haven't found it yet. This goes for every other spice.  Only the freshener spice is useful mid game before you are able to make berry sludge/pemmican for use in rockets. Same holds for rad pills and other pills.  Either you are stuck micromanaging their usage or else every dupe just keeps gobbling them up. By and large, I just want rad pills for dupes that are at risk of radiation exposure obviously, such as when they are in the rockets or you are playing on harder difficulties. But unless you are willing to micromanage their pill popping, your away team will just keep eating rad pills 24/7 as long as you keep making them.  Not a big deal, but far from ideal.  So, the result is players avoid using these building as much as possible because using them is micro-management hell.

If there ever were a use for rare materials it would be for building mid-late and late game buildings like a deep freezer with permissions and a pill dispensary than are controllable to allow for prioritization and the like.  Yes, it's great to make mid-game contraptions that solve these issues temporarily, but at some point you have bigger fish to fry and the level of micromanagement needed for those mid-game contraptions lowers the fun of the game, not enhances it.

This goes along with my theme that this game is great, but more attention needs to be given to the mid-late and late games to make those part of the games as fun (and not so boring) as the early  and early-mid games.

Sounds like they need medicine cabinets for private bedrooms and only the dupe assigned to the bedroom can access the meds inside and are queue to take a dose when they wake up.

The food systems is a lot more difficult with the goal of eating being communal. You could create individual dining/banquet halls for specific types of dupes, but they need a better way to handle the door permissions to handle that. I proposed a while back to have special doors that could be permissioned based on the hat the dupe is wearing or specific skill requirements. You could have the machinists' dinning hall that had a specific kitchen supply it's fridge with food with the desired spice, but even then it's hard to say it would be worth the hassle. 

[Kderosa]

37 minutes ago, LaShomb said:

but even then it's hard to say it would be worth the hassle

Therein lies the problem

[Sebastiangperez]

18 hours ago, Charletrom said:

I just want an update to germs. Would love a DLC focused around medicine and biological manipulation. Critter hybrids! Mutant dupes with special abilities! 

When i saw the last trailer / short, etc, did anyone notice that some plants mutated and overgrow? this could be something, add special abilities, mutations on dupes, breathing under the water, can walk on lava without burning, this could be something that can add to doctors that seems like is not a very exploited branch. 

[LeandroBraz]

23 hours ago, Charletrom said:

I just want an update to germs. Would love a DLC focused around medicine and biological manipulation. Critter hybrids! Mutant dupes with special abilities! 

Germs that can infect critters and that pass to dupes through their meat or direct contact. Maybe rabies disease, which would make critters aggressive and can transmit to dupes through bite.