GlooooomerBzzt Posted October 10, 2025 Share Posted October 10, 2025 Now the sap countdown dropped to 0.96... Seems like it's dropping at the same rate as the previous 2 countdowns? Also, after I clicked on the panels and revealed the new panels, the hourglass is filled up again and the hourglass countdown came back (pretty sure it wasn't there for me before). The hourglass countdown is now at 0.82, which is way faster than before and the sap countdown. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/168280-new-arg-link/page/22/#findComment-1839588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhhhddh Posted October 10, 2025 Share Posted October 10, 2025 14 minutes ago, Triple3Universe said: How do you access the bottom 3 panels for the night time side of the ARG? cant seem to open them click the tree on the right you'll get the first new image, and click toolbox and the bucket to get other two Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/168280-new-arg-link/page/22/#findComment-1839589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowlVoid Posted October 10, 2025 Share Posted October 10, 2025 28 minutes ago, lowercase skye said: This was necessary to solve Cyclum, too. Skill issue on my part then. I didnt really know what i was getting into. I wish everyone luck on the puzzle though. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/168280-new-arg-link/page/22/#findComment-1839590 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiyss Posted October 10, 2025 Share Posted October 10, 2025 2 minutes ago, GlooooomerBzzt said: Now the sap countdown dropped to 0.96... Seems like it's dropping at the same rate as the previous 2 countdowns? Also, after I clicked on the panels and revealed the new panels, the hourglass is filled up again and the hourglass countdown came back (pretty sure it wasn't there for me before). The hourglass countdown is now at 0.82, which is way faster than before and the sap countdown. So we might get the final panels before the sap is complete. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/168280-new-arg-link/page/22/#findComment-1839591 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheggf Posted October 10, 2025 Share Posted October 10, 2025 1 hour ago, Sustenance said: in "manifestum" order i couldnt get anything @Juanasdf god gamer Reveal hidden contents They put the second timer there to distract everyone and try to make them give up as a devious little trick. 3 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/168280-new-arg-link/page/22/#findComment-1839592 Share on other sites More sharing options...
user1464576869 Posted October 10, 2025 Share Posted October 10, 2025 Hang on, the hourglass animation is now backwards 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/168280-new-arg-link/page/22/#findComment-1839594 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sustenance Posted October 10, 2025 Share Posted October 10, 2025 Solution doc here for anyone struggling or that doesn't want to go through 25+ pages of discussion: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kLKXDYVMJ5HE9CMY-qbXXs6JXxBqPq-Z8INWDulwvd8/edit?usp=sharing 4 6 5 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/168280-new-arg-link/page/22/#findComment-1839595 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fliphe Posted October 10, 2025 Share Posted October 10, 2025 1 hora atrás, Sustenance disse: isso também para a tradição They are all the same, it's the same portal from Winona trailer (where Wagstaff was taken), and we saw that it was built by Wagstaff together with WX 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/168280-new-arg-link/page/22/#findComment-1839596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhhhddh Posted October 10, 2025 Share Posted October 10, 2025 13 minutes ago, Fliphe said: They are all the same standardized design 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/168280-new-arg-link/page/22/#findComment-1839597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddocc Posted October 10, 2025 Share Posted October 10, 2025 oh no not again I'm going crazy, but it looks like nothing new is happening and is time to wait again. I was trying to convert the borders of the 10th panel to audio but it's just horrible white noise. 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/168280-new-arg-link/page/22/#findComment-1839598 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terra_cat Posted October 10, 2025 Share Posted October 10, 2025 8 minutes ago, hhhhddh said: standardized design Man why does wagstaff keep using the same old blueprints for the portal when it only worked properly to banish WX Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/168280-new-arg-link/page/22/#findComment-1839599 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeRoboButler Posted October 10, 2025 Share Posted October 10, 2025 6 minutes ago, Terra_cat said: Man why does wagstaff keep using the same old blueprints for the portal when it only worked properly to banish WX getting into the constant is easy, getting out is the problem, Wagstaff was trying to make a two way portal but has only ever been able to make a one way portal. However, considering wagstaff seems to have mastered basic teleportation tech through his tele-pad and tele-brella, it would not shock me if the portal was modified in some way to do something else. (mild tin-foil hat, pepe-silvia-esc theory incoming) Wagstaff could have been working on a teleport between two different locations in the normal realm but something unexpected happened in his testing, a blast goes off, the factory is in shambles and Winona goes back to save her boss, but he goes through and it deactivates. Winona being the intelligent handy woman she is, quickly attempts to fix the machine but ends up making it one way again, similar to how wx was banished. With the gate way open, Charlie who has yet to become ruler of the constant notices the opening and tries to call out to her sister, but Methius takes over seeing another potential pawn in her plant to take over and drags Winona into the constant. Meaning, technically yes, Winona was pulling Wagstaff's hand, but we all assumed for ages that the only possible destination was the constant. The now more likely possibility is it being his old lab in his "shut down shack" of a house that Wilson would later use as a place of research himself, probably all planed by Wagstaff in the first place based off the Wilson animation we recently got. this arg is making me nuts... (my sanity meter about to go into the negatives) 1 1 2 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/168280-new-arg-link/page/22/#findComment-1839600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulless Pride Posted October 10, 2025 Share Posted October 10, 2025 hi! ive been following this closely and im glad that people are finally making progress, but i have a cuestion does someone else have this issue? cause all i've seen its 2 countdowns instead of just one 😕 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/168280-new-arg-link/page/22/#findComment-1839601 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawel0926 Posted October 10, 2025 Share Posted October 10, 2025 OmG TheRe IS A HidDen hourglass Spoiler I lied 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/168280-new-arg-link/page/22/#findComment-1839602 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinistrem Posted October 10, 2025 Share Posted October 10, 2025 The most shocking part is Wagstaff eating uncooked apple without collapsing from pain due to his passive negative. 1 12 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/168280-new-arg-link/page/22/#findComment-1839603 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terra_cat Posted October 10, 2025 Share Posted October 10, 2025 16 minutes ago, Sinistrem said: The most shocking part is Wagstaff eating uncooked apple without collapsing from pain due to his passive negative. to be fair we're missing a few panels he could still writhe on the ground for a few of them 1 3 1 2 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/168280-new-arg-link/page/22/#findComment-1839605 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridley Posted October 10, 2025 Share Posted October 10, 2025 9 minutes ago, ZeRoboButler said: Meaning, technically yes, Winona was pulling Wagstaff's hand, but we all assumed for ages that the only possible destination was the constant. The now more likely possibility is it being his old lab in his "shut down shack" of a house that Wilson would later use as a place of research himself, probably all planed by Wagstaff in the first place based off the Wilson animation we recently got. Seems weird if the point of the ARG is to show Wagstaff was never actually sent to the Constant. I feel like there must be a bigger revelation that they could make an update out of. I feel like my theories are blown up, but given that I never solve the puzzles on my own, I might as well keep trying to guess where this is going. I still find it mighty suspicious that Wagstaff's glove feels spotlighted and I don't get why he is nonchalant about the factory burning. I also wonder why Wagstaff is holding a carbon microphone in the daylight panels. Is he recording his experiment or using it to communicate? WX-78 helped in the creation of a portal that sent him to the Constant, but this portal seems unable to transfer the apple I am assuming Wagstaff tossed through. And what kind of factory produces only a few lines of radios only to burn from a back room portal fire. Surely there is some foul play involved. Maybe Wagstaff banished to the shadow realm whoever was turning the Voxola radios into "traps" backed by a national marketing campaign. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/168280-new-arg-link/page/22/#findComment-1839606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinistrem Posted October 10, 2025 Share Posted October 10, 2025 I wonder whether Maxwell is going to contact and 'help' him. Characters who are frustrated/at wits end being contacted by mysterious voice over the radio promising them to fulfill their 'desire' in a monkey paw fashion is the common denominator of pre Charlie Don't Starve. While the panels between Wagstaff biting the apple and the apple lying on the ground are still hidden, I assume that he tries to throw the apple into the portal only for the apple to bounce/fly back, which is why Wagstaff looks distraught afterwards. Maybe Maxwell contacts him, promising to fulfill his 'wish' of making the portal work and connected to constant similar to Wilson, which culminates in him being sucked in and factory burning down. Except this time he somehow escapes. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/168280-new-arg-link/page/22/#findComment-1839607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atkvin Posted October 10, 2025 Share Posted October 10, 2025 We've seen Wagstaff fail to create portals before. The discerning point here seems to be that the apple he just took a bite out of still had a bite.. With the ARG's theming around waiting, it seems likely the story here is that he was trying to cause some time travel and hoping the apple came back unbitten or something. (Time travel already exists in the universe with Wanda after all) With the premise of this being somehow related to the factory fire though, we better get answers to who exactly got sucked into the factory portal. Though if it turns out Wagstaff caused a paradox that spawned a second Wagstaff all this time, I'll be speechless Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/168280-new-arg-link/page/22/#findComment-1839608 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple3Universe Posted October 10, 2025 Share Posted October 10, 2025 (edited) 2 hours ago, hhhhddh said: click the tree on the right you'll get the first new image, and click toolbox and the bucket to get other two I clicked on all the trees but nothing seems to be happening... Nevermind, you have to click on the BASE of the tree to open the new panels Edited October 10, 2025 by Triple3Universe Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/168280-new-arg-link/page/22/#findComment-1839609 Share on other sites More sharing options...
efgi Posted October 10, 2025 Share Posted October 10, 2025 4 hours ago, GimplyGoose said: background of panel 5 on the day side with the contrast increased to make out the letters hidden it it From what I'm seeing in my dev tools the background is this and doesn't seem to contain any hint of letters. It's the background for the whole page, panels themselves don't seem to actually have backgrounds at all. I like the community teamwork of ARGs, but I also like to see things myself and I'm just not getting the asset that allegedly gave us the letters for an anagram to progress. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/168280-new-arg-link/page/22/#findComment-1839612 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDNW Posted October 10, 2025 Share Posted October 10, 2025 7 minutes ago, efgi said: From what I'm seeing in my dev tools the background is this and doesn't seem to contain any hint of letters. It's the background for the whole page, panels themselves don't seem to actually have backgrounds at all. I like the community teamwork of ARGs, but I also like to see things myself and I'm just not getting the asset that allegedly gave us the letters for an anagram to progress. "This" is I believe the foreground mask. They mean the "blacked" comics panel. Also I know... after a lot of such puzzles some peoples just have automatic mode "KLEI posted an image - check if something isn't hidden when I play with light and contrast". They did played with it some time already Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/168280-new-arg-link/page/22/#findComment-1839613 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harthur90 Posted October 10, 2025 Share Posted October 10, 2025 (edited) For anyone having trouble to click on the elements in order here is a snippet to use at your console function simulateClicksAtCenter(prefix, word, timeout) { let i = 0; const ids = []; // Generate the IDs based on the word and prefix for (let j = 0; j < word.length; j++) { const char = word[j].toUpperCase(); const charCode = char.charCodeAt(0); const alphabetIndex = charCode - 65 + 2; // 'A' is 65, and you said A = page0panel2 ids.push(`${prefix}${alphabetIndex}`); } function clickNext() { if (i < ids.length) { const element = document.getElementById(ids[i]).childNodes[0]; if (element) { // Get the element's position and dimensions const rect = element.getBoundingClientRect(); // Calculate the center coordinates const centerX = rect.left + rect.width / 2; const centerY = rect.top + rect.height / 2; // Create a new MouseEvent with the center coordinates const event = new MouseEvent('click', { bubbles: true, cancelable: true, view: window, clientX: centerX, clientY: centerY }); // Dispatch the event on the element element.dispatchEvent(event); console.log(`Clicked element with ID: ${ids[i]} at coordinates (${centerX}, ${centerY})`); } else { console.log(`Element with ID: ${ids[i]} not found. Skipping.`); } i++; setTimeout(clickNext, timeout); } else { console.log('Finished simulating all clicks.'); } } clickNext(); } simulateClicksAtCenter("page0panel", "MANIFESTUM", 500); //Wait one to finish before executing the next simulateClicksAtCenter("page0panel", "WAGSTAFF", 500); Edited October 10, 2025 by Harthur90 added word Wagstaff as well and updated to be a easier function to use 4 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/168280-new-arg-link/page/22/#findComment-1839614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinistrem Posted October 10, 2025 Share Posted October 10, 2025 So what's the significance of the squiggly lines above the apple? Why does it change from black to white? Since it's shown twice this can't be just an embellishment. 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/168280-new-arg-link/page/22/#findComment-1839615 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fliphe Posted October 10, 2025 Share Posted October 10, 2025 Some observations (They might be obvious or not, but I’d like to point them out anyway) I’m also hyped about this apple, but maybe it’ll just do something similar to what the stone did in DST: From Beyond – Lunar Machinations [Story Trailer], or maybe it’ll be something really crazy.This segment should probably end with an image or a link to Don’t Starve Together: Next of Kin [Winona Animated Short]. The Wagstaff from the night panel isn’t wearing gloves (Who would wear just one glove?), he has different colors and the art is way less detailed than the others. Honestly, I have no idea what might have happened for him to return to the real world or what he wants to do with that tree sap. Now some things that go through my mind I believe that when Wagstaff (HUMAN) enters the portal in the Winona trailer, he ends up in Hamlet (And in the Hamlet trailer we don’t see him as a hologram), similar to how WX ended up in Don’t Starve. I don’t think he was able to change the portal’s route, Charlie managed to do that and we saw Winona go to Together in the Don’t Starve Together 2021 Gameplay Trailer. Wagstaff appears as a human in Together in the trailer Don’t Starve Together: From Beyond – Taking Root Update [Update Trailer]. Sometimes I think it might have been an animation mistake, but I prefer to believe it wasn’t. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/168280-new-arg-link/page/22/#findComment-1839616 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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