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2 hours ago, Atkvin said:

We've seen Wagstaff fail to create portals before. The discerning point here seems to be that the apple he just took a bite out of still had a bite.. With the ARG's theming around waiting, it seems likely the story here is that he was trying to cause some time travel and hoping the apple came back unbitten or something. (Time travel already exists in the universe with Wanda after all)

With the premise of this being somehow related to the factory fire though, we better get answers to who exactly got sucked into the factory portal. Though if it turns out Wagstaff caused a paradox that spawned a second Wagstaff all this time, I'll be speechless

Maybe WX is actually the second Wagstaff?

Edit: That would explain the skeleton and the goggles. Sorry if I'm very wrong, still just diving into all this after only loosely keeping up with the videos for years.

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4 hours ago, Sustenance said:

Solution doc here for anyone struggling or that doesn't want to go through 25+ pages of discussion: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kLKXDYVMJ5HE9CMY-qbXXs6JXxBqPq-Z8INWDulwvd8/edit?usp=sharing

Is it just for the lore reveal or is there an actual valuable reward for solving it, like Klei points or free skin? 

has anyone tried translating the sand in the hourglass into morse code? maybe the word from that will need to be inputted through the alphabet panels?

Just now, Lovens said:

Is it just for the lore reveal or is there an actual valuable reward for solving it, like Klei points or free skin? 

950 klei points

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2 hours ago, efgi said:

From what I'm seeing in my dev tools the background is this and doesn't seem to contain any hint of letters. It's the background for the whole page, panels themselves don't seem to actually have backgrounds at all.

I like the community teamwork of ARGs, but I also like to see things myself and I'm just not getting the asset that allegedly gave us the letters for an anagram to progress.

It's just panel 5 on the day side, the one under the pipe panel - nothing to do with the background or anything. One of the earlier peeps probably meant to write 'below' instead of 'behind' and started a misconception

I meant to post it for archival purposes earlier while I still had it copied, but felt lazy. Thankfully the asset was still accessible from my history! Here's the specific panel + the panel with just a lazy paintbucket

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3 minutes ago, Csfranklin said:

Are there still supposed to be 10 panels left black? Mine changed before finishing Manifestum

Yep, 10 here too (assuming you put in the other code as well).

And same here! It updated before I put in the final M - glad I wasn't the only one. It's probably just a leniency thing since you'd already have keyed 'M' earlier, and the devs felt bad if you messed up on the last one and needed to restart lol

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9 hours ago, Ucant81 said:

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Can't make out the text, but there's something there.

Looks like "AP" in the middle.

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Wagstaff ditches the apple after 1 bite because of his delicate stomach, but... why even try in the first place? He should know raw food will hurt him. Plus, why do it right after activating the portal? It seems like a terrible time to have a snack.

8 minutes ago, Garett Skott said:

Wagstaff ditches the apple after 1 bite because of his delicate stomach, but... why even try in the first place? He should know raw food will hurt him. Plus, why do it right after activating the portal? It seems like a terrible time to have a snack.

All work and no snack make Wagstuff a dull boy!

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17 minutes ago, Csfranklin said:

AP, like apple? So I tried apple, then tried it backwards. We can rule out apple xD

I wouldn't rule it out yet - currently any "writing" does nothing, maybe until the timer runs out.

There was a different way the server responded when trying to write previously (returned the whole "day" comic) and now it's just null

If feel like we're forgetting about Maxwell's Door. What happened to it between DS and DST? Why is it gone? Maybe Wagstaff was able to use it to escape the Constant?

Either way, it's shown in Interference that Wagstaff eventually got back into his/Wilson's house and modified Maxwell's Door to project himself in the Constant (most likely by incorporating his projector into it).

10 minutes ago, mima_ said:

what if the apple was thrown like the rock to the portal like in this animation? and dropped out from the portal but nothing changed to the bitten apple (which i assume he want something to change or turn back into full apple?)

Dude should just go to ruins to dupe some apples with green gems instead of trying to restore his own, smh. /s

Although we don't know whether the whole 'factory burning' happens before or after Wagstaff uses projection to explore Hamlet, SW and Vanilla so he might've not visited the caves yet.

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21 minutes ago, Garett Skott said:

If feel like we're forgetting about Maxwell's Door. What happened to it between DS and DST? Why is it gone? Maybe Wagstaff was able to use it to escape the Constant?

Either way, it's shown in Interference that Wagstaff eventually got back into his/Wilson's house and modified Maxwell's Door to project himself in the Constant (most likely by incorporating his projector into it).

They were placed by Maxwell to lure and bring somebody to real him at the Throne. When he was no longer on the Throne (Wilson was) there was no need for the door to be anymore (kept in game for replayability but lore-wise there was none who walked through it again - Wilson stayed on Throne and had his side-fun with this side-game). After Charlie took the Throne she also didn't want anyone to be able to reach her place.

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