Recent Communication has been amazing

[-Variant]

Real quick appreciation post, I'm smiling ear to ear right now honestly.

I feel like the communication has been amazing lately, ever since the last skill-tree update, to this one, I think the team has done an amazing job at being open with the community and I just wanted to take a minute to appreciate it.

I'm especially happy with how this last beta went, it wasn't the flashiest update out there, but every major concern I've seen people have was either outright addressed quickly in a patch, or at least talked about, like my concerns over the waterfall, it might not've made it for the live release, but seeing the team address and talk about their plans for it just outright eases all of my worries, and its something I hope is here to stay.

I'm looking forward to the future updates, even this last dev stream felt a lot more lively and whimsical, I'm stoked to see where this all goes!

(P.S, totally off topic, but I LOVE the swamp skinset that just came out. Didn't feel another thread was worth the mention, but its super sick.)

[Frosty_Mentos]

I wholeheartedly agree. 

[Lovens]

It would be amazing if previous concerns from the past updates were addressed in a similar manner. It's never too late. But one can only dream.

It's cool that you got a reply on such an obscure part of the update such as this waterfall (which to me sounds like a very minor nitpick which should only be addressed when the rest of the game is functioning properly and players are satisfied with all the parts of the update). But are we just gonna forget now about what they did in the Lunar arc? You care about this waterfall which honestly looks fine to me as of now. Meanwhile, Pearl's island, one of the most unique and beautiful landmarks of DST, an iconic place that players are guided to by the game and encouraged to build at and prettify, stays demolished as of now. This change forever ruined this part of the game many people loved and enjoyed. Not a single dev took a minute to write a reply about people's concerns about it, despite many lengthy discussions and arguments. And what about the moon gleams burning plant mobs without any decent counter-measures? Oh yeah, that still keeps happening and ruins people's enjoyment. We didn't get a toggle for this "feature" and I doubt we will. But cool they are looking into this waterfall. Must be very, very important if that warranted a reply from the devs. 

Edited September 19, 2025 by Lovens

[Captain_Rage]

After Crab King was defeated with Pearl's Pearl socketed ages ago in this world and Pearl relocated to the main land the pearl reappeared all of a sudden after the Ancient Echoes update went live. Very nifty, since I forgot to paint it on a mini sign all that time ago. Cheers, Klei. :DD

 

[MariaUshiromiya]

7 hours ago, Lovens said:

It would be amazing if previous concerns from the past updates were addressed in a similar manner. It's never too late. But one can only dream.

It's cool that you got a reply on such an obscure part of the update such as this waterfall (which to me sounds like a very minor nitpick which should only be addressed when the rest of the game is functioning properly and players are satisfied with all the parts of the update). But are we just gonna forget now about what they did in the Lunar arc? You care about this waterfall which honestly looks fine to me as of now. Meanwhile, Pearl's island, one of the most unique and beautiful landmarks of DST, an iconic place that players are guided to by the game and encouraged to build at and prettify, stays demolished as of now. This change forever ruined this part of the game many people loved and enjoyed. Not a single dev took a minute to write a reply about people's concerns about it, despite many lengthy discussions and arguments. And what about the moon gleams burning plant mobs without any decent counter-measures? Oh yeah, that still keeps happening and ruins people's enjoyment. We didn't get a toggle for this "feature" and I doubt we will. But cool they are looking into this waterfall. Must be very, very important if that warranted a reply from the devs. 

Its probably cause you wouldn't of appreciated the answer. 

Spoiler

Its no.

 

[Bumber64]

3 hours ago, MariaUshiromiya said:

Its probably cause you wouldn't of appreciated the answer. 

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Its no.

 

Their reasoning for doing so would be better than just "no", let alone complete silence.

[SilverSpoon]

3 hours ago, MariaUshiromiya said:

Its probably cause you wouldn't of appreciated the answer. 

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Its no.

 

If "just silence and ignoring" as "Amazing Recent Communication" and it couldn't convey "Its no," then I don't think the developers meet the conditions a good communication...

Even this update and the communication OP said is good, but I can't forget about the poor and rushed "Hostile Takeover" and they forced through the next one without enough cleanup, and I can't be happy. Of course, I'm dissatisfied with to destroy Pearl Island and Electrical fire, but about Warbler is still unavailable and the Finale of the Luna quest is "Wagstaff gone. The End!",  I'm also very dissatisfied.

Edited September 20, 2025 by SilverSpoon

[Lovens]

8 hours ago, MariaUshiromiya said:

Its probably cause you wouldn't of appreciated the answer. 

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Its no.

 

What makes you think so? I sure would appreciate anything said by the devs on the issues that bother me and a lot of other players. Except we got complete, frustrating silence in response to all our passionate comments, questions and discussions. On the both issues I mentioned. 

[Frosty_Mentos]

2 hours ago, Lovens said:

What makes you think so? I sure would appreciate anything said by the devs on the issues that bother me and a lot of other players. Except we got complete, frustrating silence in response to all our passionate comments, questions and discussions. On the both issues I mentioned. 

I'm in full support of the Hermit eviction. It's small but apparently big enough solution to finding reason to dislike Wagstaff.

[Lovens]

1 hour ago, Frosty_Mentos said:

I'm in full support of the Hermit eviction. It's small but apparently big enough solution to finding reason to dislike Wagstaff.

We had enough reasons to dislike him already based on the animated shorts featuring him and all the annoying chores that he makes us go through to "help" him out. Furthermore, if there's a reason to dislike him, there should be a way to oppose him and not put up with his bs. We should have a choice to evict Wagstaff and build a whole new Scion arena out of the same dock tiles but in a different location. Make it costly too, I don't care. This would be a good solution to satisfy both parties - the ones who like the Pearl eviction arc and the players who dislike it and want to preserve this unique landmark. 

Edited September 20, 2025 by Lovens

[reddocc]

real I don't know what do they do to have this amount of patience and dedication.

[Frosty_Mentos]

15 hours ago, Lovens said:

We had enough reasons to dislike him already based on the animated shorts featuring him and all the annoying chores that he makes us go through to "help" him out. Furthermore, if there's a reason to dislike him, there should be a way to oppose him and not put up with his bs. We should have a choice to evict Wagstaff and build a whole new Scion arena out of the same dock tiles but in a different location. Make it costly too, I don't care. This would be a good solution to satisfy both parties - the ones who like the Pearl eviction arc and the players who dislike it and want to preserve this unique landmark. 

I mean I guess we could have a much harder to achieve alternative solution, but I don't see that happening. Ocean isn't THAT big imo, especially if they'll have to add more content. It's a sacrifice of progress tbh. I don't want too much development spent on this issue, that's my opinion at least, it likely might deny future additions or add more limits or even require stronger devices to handle this game. Idk I just dunno.

[SilverSpoon]

1 hour ago, Frosty_Mentos said:

I mean I guess we could have a much harder to achieve alternative solution, but I don't see that happening. Ocean isn't THAT big imo, especially if they'll have to add more content.

That should not be. There's already enough room in ocean for random spawning of Frostjaw arenas, so it's hard to imagine it being impossible to implement.

[Bellium]

17 hours ago, Lovens said:

build a whole new Scion arena out of the same dock tiles but in a different location

I agree, so far (not including frost jaws) we have 3 naturally spawning Islands in the ocean, and 2/3 of them just turn into boss arenas which destorys the whole landscape (yea you can still use lunar island, but I wouldn't trust any build surviving that close the the phase 2 blender). I don't even mind Wagstaff's eviction, but given the option I would rather keep Perals place where it is and move Wag to one of the moons mini islands or something.

[Frosty_Mentos]

57 minutes ago, SilverSpoon said:

That should not be. There's already enough room in ocean for random spawning of Frostjaw arenas, so it's hard to imagine it being impossible to implement.

That's the thing. Gameplay involves on exploring and re-exploring areas of the map. Much of the ocean is RNG based in that way to get treasures and look for frostjaw and have enough space to sail around the world. Pack it too tight and it might feel crowded.

Though I got a solution in mind and instead of having the Warbot on Pearl's we could move it to mainland instead? We'd have to turf it with substrate, relocate machinery, and place pearl back on her island once the new turfs break down. Idk if much of the playerbase have issue with how things were implemented.

[SilverSpoon]

11 minutes ago, Frosty_Mentos said:

That's the thing. Gameplay involves on exploring and re-exploring areas of the map. Much of the ocean is RNG based in that way to get treasures and look for frostjaw and have enough space to sail around the world. Pack it too tight and it might feel crowded.

This is just my subjective, but I think it's definitely not. The current ocean is too vast and too desolate. So I'm always hoping for new islands to be implemented in the ocean.

15 minutes ago, Frosty_Mentos said:

Though I got a solution in mind and instead of having the Warbot on Pearl's we could move it to mainland instead? We'd have to turf it with substrate, relocate machinery, and place pearl back on her island once the new turfs break down. Idk if much of the playerbase have issue with how things were implemented.

I think that's a proper solution.

[Edible Coal]

25 minutes ago, SilverSpoon said:

This is just my subjective, but I think it's definitely not. The current ocean is too vast and too desolate. So I'm always hoping for new islands to be implemented in the ocean.

 

i think is fine, is a ocean after all, is not suppose to be populated with stuff.

they should add some ways to allow you to scan the ocean much faster

[Lovens]

8 hours ago, Frosty_Mentos said:

I mean I guess we could have a much harder to achieve alternative solution, but I don't see that happening. Ocean isn't THAT big imo, especially if they'll have to add more content. It's a sacrifice of progress tbh. I don't want too much development spent on this issue, that's my opinion at least, it likely might deny future additions or add more limits or even require stronger devices to handle this game. Idk I just dunno.

The majority of the ocean is currently sea stacks and nothing essential. There's plenty of space to retrofit a new setpiece, evident by the recent addition of the giant whirlpool. 

On the day the latest update came out I was watching a steamer for the new twitch drop. She was aimlessly sailing over her already explored ocean in the search of the whirlpool for about an hour straight before giving up and deciding to do something else. Literally nothing noteworthy happened in that hour except her sailing and checking the landscape, and occasionally eating from her polar bin and rewinding her Wanda watch back. Kinda speaks for how "crowded" and "eventful" the ocean currently is. 

Edited September 21, 2025 by Lovens

[SilverSpoon]

19 minutes ago, Edible Coal said:

i think is fine, is a ocean after all, is not suppose to be populated with stuff.

Well, it certainly feels the same as the ocean in the real world, but as a game, I don't think paddling in the void of ocean is that much fun.

I agree that the ocean is not supposed to be populated with stuff, but that's exactly why I prefer islands. We can expect a unique ecosystem different from the mainland, and if islands have special climates or rules, the survival elements that some people like can be introduced in a good way, without forcing them on those who don't like them.

19 minutes ago, Edible Coal said:

they should add some ways to allow you to scan the ocean much faster

Man of Culture, are you talking about that Spyglass?

Edited September 21, 2025 by SilverSpoon

[Bellium]

9 minutes ago, SilverSpoon said:

are you talking about that Spyglass?

With how much glass the new lunar hail brings to the world, we really should be able to use it to craft more things. Looking glass, bottles, etc.

[IAmAFurrz]

On 9/19/2025 at 8:10 AM, -Variant said:

(P.S, totally off topic, but I LOVE the swamp skinset that just came out. Didn't feel another thread was worth the mention, but its super sick.)

tbh the only one that looks super gross is the berry one, it looks like vomit  

On 9/21/2025 at 5:48 PM, Edible Coal said:

i think is fine, is a ocean after all, is not suppose to be populated with stuff.

this is not good for a game tho, there are very few points of interest on the map compared to even the caves. 'its realistic' is not a great excuse for a lot of games and that includes this one

not to mention, if the ocean irl is as dead as this game's then the earths entire ecosystem is dead in a few years

[Hungry French]

On 20.09.2025 at 19:19, Lovens said:

У нас уже было достаточно причин его недолюбливать, учитывая анимационные ролики с его участием и все те раздражающие поручения, которые он заставляет нас выполнять, чтобы «помочь» ему. Более того, если есть причина его недолюбливать, то должен быть и способ противостоять ему и не мириться с его выходками. У нас должен быть выбор: выселить Вагстаффа и построить совершенно новую арену для «Скайона» из тех же плиток, но в другом месте. Пусть это будет дорого стоить, мне всё равно. Это было бы хорошим решением, которое удовлетворило бы обе стороны: тех, кому нравится сюжетная линия с выселением Перла, и игроков, которым она не нравится и которые хотят сохранить эту уникальную достопримечательность.

Play DS. And read the lines he says. He's at least not a bad guy and he loves his aunt.

On 21.09.2025 at 14:01, Lovens said:

Большая часть океана в настоящее время представляет собой морские отложения, и в нём нет ничего существенного. Здесь достаточно места для установки нового элемента декора, о чём свидетельствует недавнее появление гигантского водоворота.

В день выхода последнего обновления я наблюдал за тем, как стримерша готовится к новому дропу на Twitch. Она бесцельно плыла по уже исследованному океану в поисках водоворота около часа, прежде чем сдаться и решить заняться чем-то другим. За этот час не произошло ничего примечательного, кроме того, что она плыла, осматривала окрестности, время от времени ела из своего полярного контейнера и перематывала часы Ванды назад. Это как бы говорит о том, насколько «многолюден» и «насыщен событиями» океан в настоящее время.

There is a lot of content in the ocean... Especially now. The fact that she was looking for only 1 interesting thing for the whole ocean is the same as looking for 1 Toad spawner or 1 Eye Chest spawner for the whole world.

[Lovens]

1 hour ago, Hungry French said:

Play DS. And read the lines he says. He's at least not a bad guy and he loves his aunt.

DS is irrelevant. Watch DST animated shorts featuring Wagstaff. Klei went out of their way to make him look bad in most of them, doing questionable immoral stuff. So if they turn him into a villain they should give a way to oppose him and fix whatever wrong stuff he does if players dislike it, not just comply with it. 

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There is a lot of content in the ocean... Especially now. The fact that she was looking for only 1 interesting thing for the whole ocean is the same as looking for 1 Toad spawner or 1 Eye Chest spawner for the whole world.

My point still stands. Like 80% of the ocean is just empty waters and sea stacks. There are very little points of interest in it compared to the main land. If there was room to add the new whirpool, that means sure there was also room to add a brand new island for Scion arena as well. They are comparable in size.

[loopuleasa]

16 hours ago, Lovens said:

 So if they turn him into a villain 

 

Wagstaff is not necessarily evil.

He's just chaotic neutral, and indifferent, which comes off as evil in practice 

That's how chasing results/profits at all costs works for any self-respecting corporate research and development department.

[IAmAFurrz]

1 hour ago, loopuleasa said:

He's just chaotic neutral, and indifferent, which comes off as evil in practice 

in ds you can see some quotes that show he wants to utilize things for war in his reality. feels pretty evil when you consider he would kill us if it meant he gets what he wants