Deimos001 Posted July 30, 2025 Share Posted July 30, 2025 Let’s start with the old hail. In my opinion, it added a meaningful layer to worldbuilding. It felt like a direct consequence of the rifts, which I really liked, after discussing it with other players, I understand that the old hail could sometimes be annoying or even a bit underwhelming/uninteresting... but at least it had presence. You felt it in your head; whether you were hiding under a tree for shelter or relying on the umbralla(im completely down for lunar/shadow items being useful for its counterpart). I really miss that sense of impact with the new hail. Because now you can just walk past it and ignore it and let’s be real, the birds don’t quite hit the same way. with that being said, the new hail might be more creative and visually interesting, something the old version lacked. So rather than reverting back entirely, I think there's room to add both. What if we had lunar rain (the new hail) and lunar hail (the old version)? This would bring more variety and depth to rift-related weather, making the world feel richer and more reactive, instead of limiting it to a single approach. In the end i think it’s not about choosing one over the other but about enhancing the experience by combining the strengths of both. I hope you take this into consideration before beta ends. Have a nice day. 6 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/167320-discussion-on-new-hail/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakepeng99 Posted July 30, 2025 Share Posted July 30, 2025 Nah it shouldn’t be separate weather they should be the same. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/167320-discussion-on-new-hail/#findComment-1829621 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pe Dabliu Posted July 30, 2025 Share Posted July 30, 2025 Klei might just add some damage back into it, if they feel like the damage is necessary, maybe working like the acid rain, with constant health drain as long as you're exposed. But idk, maybe we really are done with the damage side of the hail. My issue with the old one was the spam of glass, even tho it would break away, it was still annoying, specially when I was arround wobot Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/167320-discussion-on-new-hail/#findComment-1829625 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaman2525 Posted July 30, 2025 Share Posted July 30, 2025 Quote 1 minute ago, Pe Dabliu said: Klei might just add some damage back into it, if they feel like the damage is necessary, maybe working like the acid rain, with constant health drain as long as you're exposed. But idk, maybe we really are done with the damage side of the hail. My issue with the old one was the spam of glass, even tho it would break away, it was still annoying, specially when I was arround wobot There is no damage from hail anymore ? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/167320-discussion-on-new-hail/#findComment-1829627 Share on other sites More sharing options...
landromat Posted July 30, 2025 Share Posted July 30, 2025 i like the idea of glass building up on living creatures as well with slowdown effect and maybe even with stun (encased in glass) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/167320-discussion-on-new-hail/#findComment-1829628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larael Posted July 30, 2025 Share Posted July 30, 2025 so your feeling a lack of menace with the new hail, but the older one wasn't really that, just a phase to stand still or use umbralla. I'm just waiting cus all the lunar side is kinda compassing into something: The blighted frogs (yeah spring only) the plants invading everything reanimated bosses ice penguls (yeah they were before but now the're part of the lunar side) the new gestal around the player with the empowered crown The cristalized state of structures. like the world post rift is getting harder but not in a particular way something is missing you know. Just a bit more and we'll have a "hardmode". So for me is just a matter of time. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/167320-discussion-on-new-hail/#findComment-1829633 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pe Dabliu Posted July 30, 2025 Share Posted July 30, 2025 41 minutes ago, shaman2525 said: Nope Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/167320-discussion-on-new-hail/#findComment-1829638 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybers2001 Posted July 30, 2025 Share Posted July 30, 2025 2 hours ago, Deimos001 said: What if we had lunar rain (the new hail) and lunar hail (the old version)? I like this. Could be that hail only occurs in spring, and maybe restrict the lunar frogs to it as well. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/167320-discussion-on-new-hail/#findComment-1829654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-met Posted July 30, 2025 Share Posted July 30, 2025 Hail needs to stay on structures indefinitely until you clear it, and it needs to disable the structure aswell. Hail hurting players also needs back. 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/167320-discussion-on-new-hail/#findComment-1829682 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grem6 Posted July 30, 2025 Share Posted July 30, 2025 (edited) 14 hours ago, Well-met said: Hail needs to stay on structures indefinitely until you clear it, and it needs to disable the structure aswell With current implementation, this would provide the "incredible challenge" of having to hold space bar with brightshade smasher near a structure before interacting with it. Needless to say, that would quickly turn into simply an annoyance. Edited July 31, 2025 by grem6 4 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/167320-discussion-on-new-hail/#findComment-1829700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-met Posted July 30, 2025 Share Posted July 30, 2025 1 hour ago, grem6 said: With current implementation, this would provide the incredible challenge of having to hold space bar with brightshade smasher near a structure before interacting with it. Needless to say, that would quickly turn into simply an annoyance. if you're longing for mentally challenging obstacles and puzzles I don't think dont starve is quite what you're looking for sir. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/167320-discussion-on-new-hail/#findComment-1829707 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted July 30, 2025 Share Posted July 30, 2025 After watching a Datamined animation of moon birds swooping in to bonk the player, I can confidently say that is way cooler then funny moon rocks falling out the sky. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/167320-discussion-on-new-hail/#findComment-1829716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
firoborn Posted July 30, 2025 Share Posted July 30, 2025 what if hail could build up on the player and sort of like freeze them if it gets too much or lock your inventory so you cant change your equipment or drop stuff on the ground idk i like when weather indirectly harms the player instead of just doing damage straight up Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/167320-discussion-on-new-hail/#findComment-1829720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinTheNPC Posted July 31, 2025 Share Posted July 31, 2025 Couldn't have said it better myself! I love the new additions and changes but there was nothing wrong with the old, both can be implemented 💚 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/167320-discussion-on-new-hail/#findComment-1829754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
POOH_LY Posted July 31, 2025 Share Posted July 31, 2025 (edited) Hear me out. Mutated Moose/Goose. After all many birds seem to mutate because of the hails. Might as well do that to the spring boss. Edited July 31, 2025 by POOH_LY 2 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/167320-discussion-on-new-hail/#findComment-1829755 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fpx007 Posted July 31, 2025 Share Posted July 31, 2025 10 hours ago, grem6 said: With current implementation, this would provide the incredible challenge of having to hold space bar with brightshade smasher near a structure before interacting with it. Needless to say, that would quickly turn into simply an annoyance. The issue has already been solved in SW, yet I don't understand why devs don't do so in DST. Just disable hammering with space, and force right-click hammering instead. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/167320-discussion-on-new-hail/#findComment-1829759 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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