Celestial Scion fight is hot garbage

[Cruvimaster]

25 minutes ago, Edible Coal said:

The whole boss of scion is designed to be very snowball and unforgiving at mistake, the never ending corrpution is the thing that ties the whole fight together, making it dissapear after some while would make this boss boring and too easy 

maybe but only two character can do this without pulling out like 40 healing item and tons of resouces

I did this with Wilson using 40 pierogies. Of course, it's not enough for the entire fight, but it shows how much healing is broken in the game. It just goes to show that the electrical damage isn't that high.

[Edible Coal]

7 minutes ago, Cruvimaster said:

I did this with Wilson using 40 pierogies. Of course, it's not enough for the entire fight, but it shows how much healing is broken in the game. It just goes to show that the electrical damage isn't that high.

whats wrong with that? you can beat any boss if you have enough armor and healing
plus the eletric field makes you slow and you cant catch up with scion dashes or doding them, also eating takes up ur dps output, which result in more healing

[Cruvimaster]

13 minutes ago, Edible Coal said:

whats wrong with that? you can beat any boss if you have enough armor and healing
plus the eletric field makes you slow and you cant catch up with scion dashes or doding them, also eating takes up ur dps output, which result in more healing

I'm not saying there's anything wrong, but it just shows that it doesn't need a nerf. If I had to make any changes, it would be to increase the electrical damage.

[Maxil20]

2 hours ago, Cruvimaster said:

If I had to make any changes, it would be to increase the electrical damage.

I personally don’t think it would be a good idea if only because it diminishes the LE/mushcake strats and puts the low health characters that can’t improve their max health in worse spots compared to 150 HP or higher characters (who already have considerably more leeway regardless).

Edited July 11, 2025 by Maxil20

[Cruvimaster]

8 minutes ago, Maxil20 said:

I personally don’t think it would be a good idea if only because it diminishes the LE/mushcame strats and puts the low health characters that can’t improve their max health in worse spots compared to 150 HP or higher characters (who already have considerably more leeway regardless).

Don't worry. I'm sure the devs won't increase the damage. What might happen is that Klei might decrease the damage because of a random player who creates an account for a single post.

[Edible Coal]

1 hour ago, Maxil20 said:

I personally don’t think it would be a good idea if only because it diminishes the LE/mushcame strats and puts the low health characters that can’t improve their max health in worse spots compared to 150 HP or higher characters (who already have considerably more leeway regardless).

you arnt suppose to stand in it for long, and the only two low health character is maxwell and wes, maxwell literally just spam cage the entire fight and wes....... well he finds a way

[Echsrick]

23 hours ago, Waywarbler said:

ngl it sounds like you've completely written off the boss after your first attempts at it, and now you're not even trying to learn it, just calling for nerfs or saying it's "bad game design" every time it comes up.

its because i deemed it not worth my time

[RubLog6]

I just wanted to add that I believe Klei has nerfed/fixed the inimical gestalt issue but they're still a problem in older pre hotfix worlds. Can we expect that this will be resolved or do we have to suffer with these entities forever?

 

[oregu]

You've had to fight harder bosses to encounter Scion (in my opinion) so I'm not sure what inclined this post. It's easier to learn than ck and fw (given youre not cheesing) in the respect that all you have to do in the fight is dodge stuff.

[IAmAFurrz]

16 hours ago, Edible Coal said:

making it dissapear after some while would make this boss boring and too easy 

it currently is boring and easy, nothing works together well, and the only thing youd have to care about is 'dont let it cover the legs' and thats it. the corruption is not difficult but punishing in a very awful way. but hey if you want 'hard and annoying' rather than 'hard and interesting' be my guest

[Edible Coal]

2 hours ago, IAmAFurrz said:

it currently is boring and easy, nothing works together well, and the only thing youd have to care about is 'dont let it cover the legs' and thats it. the corruption is not difficult but punishing in a very awful way. but hey if you want 'hard and annoying' rather than 'hard and interesting' be my guest

if is boring and easy, then it doesnt need to be changed

[Sacco]

On 7/11/2025 at 8:44 AM, SilverSpoon said:

 

This isn’t aimed at you alone, but I genuinely hate comments like “git gud” or “skill issue.” They’re completely unconstructive. If you can’t explain why that is a fair challenge or offer even one concrete tip, that’s nothing but intellectual surrender.

Incidentally, I remember you saying you wouldn’t post on the forum anymore, so why are you still posting? Did someone want you to post, or ask you to?

First of all you have to get good to kill a boss and not just complain. it’ll take time for uou to learn THE FINALE BOSS OF THE GAME…

Yea i said that i wouldn’t post anymore, but after some time i changed idea. What’s the problem?

[wormwood123]

13 hours ago, Echsrick said:

its because i deemed it not worth my time

Lmao

[SilverSpoon]

On 7/11/2025 at 4:10 PM, RexySeven said:

Skill issue is dying to a boss, specifically created to be challenging, sprinting to forums and creating ragebait rant post about it instead of trying to learn how to fight it.

47 minutes ago, Sacco said:

First of all you have to get good to kill a boss and not just complain. it’ll take time for uou to learn THE FINALE BOSS OF THE GAME…

So  you guys unwilling to have a constructive conversation? As a wise rabbit once said, "If you can't say something nice, don't say nothing at all."

49 minutes ago, Sacco said:

Yea i said that i wouldn’t post anymore, but after some time i changed idea. What’s the problem?

I don't say nothing at all.

[Uedo]

The forethought to ensure the final product is ready to be pushed to the live branch is yet again, lacking. 

It's a busy time for new releases, we've got some really big ones coming, made by much smaller teams - on much tighter deadlines, DST just doesn't measure up anymore. I think it's really lost it's luster on the western market and a lot of the laziness is directly attributed to not caring about how incomplete and under-tuned each and every patch is. (Don't get me started on the lack of care over the maintenance of the public servers, I find this element absolutely insane)

Despite the fact these issues have always generally been present with Klei, it's just been embraced as a culture within the org I feel. 

Happy for any criticism as to the 'why's' of why we've got to where we have, and why it's justifiable - Give me any reason you've got and out of pure apathy i'd accept it, but it doesn't change that we've ended up here with the game. You can say 'But Klei have said this'/'Klei care about the game'/'Klei have given their reasons' - great, fine, good to hear them. Still in a pit of customer dissatisfaction though - sooooooo we just gonna keep going as we have been then? Cool? Can't wait to be more unsatisfied!

[Capybara007]

Klei devs if you all are reading this please make the metheus boss fight coming november this year x2 harder than the scion

[Edible Coal]

10 minutes ago, Capybara007 said:

Klei devs if you all are reading this please make the metheus boss fight coming november this year x2 harder than the scion

now if you die in the boss fight, the world resets right away

[Cruvimaster]

31 minutes ago, Capybara007 said:

Klei devs if you all are reading this please make the metheus boss fight coming november this year x2 harder than the scion

Wes defeats the Scion, which was supposed to be difficult and in a multiplayer setting. If the next boss is twice as difficult as the Scion, I might need two Wes. LOL.

[Capybara007]

if you die to metheus the game gets uninstalled

[Wawchik]

8 minutes ago, Capybara007 said:

if you die to metheus the game gets uninstalled

And you have to buy it again, more profit and more uncompromisingness 

[SilverSpoon]

1 hour ago, Capybara007 said:

Klei devs if you all are reading this please make the metheus boss fight coming november this year x2 harder than the scion

Metheus’s Unseen Hands can only be attacked by players whose Sanity is below 15% and above 80%.

[RexySeven]

4 hours ago, SilverSpoon said:

So  you guys unwilling to have a constructive conversation? As a wise rabbit once said, "If you can't say something nice, don't say nothing at all."

Post itself is not constructive either. 

[Sacco]

5 hours ago, SilverSpoon said:

So  you guys unwilling to have a constructive conversation? As a wise rabbit once said, "If you can't say something nice, don't say nothing at all."

I don't say nothing at all.

saying GET GOOD is not an insult. It’s just that i think they have to first SLOWLY learn how to fight the boss, and not just complain about anything.

[SilverSpoon]

On 7/11/2025 at 7:53 PM, IAmAFurrz said:

the corruption slam should not last forever, rn its easy to counter but if you mess up or dont use teleports its very punishing if you miss time.

Personally I actually enjoy the forever corruption mechanic, and I think this "Restrictions" is concept of Scion and it make this boss unique, so I think it’s okay to have at least one boss like Scion among all the bosses in DST.

That said, letting a single slip-up ruin the entire battle might be too harsh a punishment.

4 hours ago, RexySeven said:

Post itself is not constructive either. 

Agree Bronymate, but one "not constructive" is better than two or three.

3 hours ago, Sacco said:

saying GET GOOD is not an insult.

After all, I think you’re really not cut out for this forum. I hate comments like “git gud.” Because they are completely unconstructive, and they are insults, period.

Edited July 12, 2025 by SilverSpoon

[Wawchik]

42 minutes ago, SilverSpoon said:

After all, I don’t think you’re really cut out for this forum. I hate comments like “git gud.” Because they are completely unconstructive, and they are insults, period.

Depends, in this case I wouldn't consider it as one. There are a lot of things to complain about related to bosses and their mechanics but electric field while might seem unfair at first becomes not that big of an issue if you just practice, you literally need to get good to deal with it